You give the most complete answers! Thanks Dar. You've been missed in these
parts!
Phil
On 9/14/10 5:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
Does anyone have a clear-cut way for Rev to know whether it's running in a
32-bit or a 64-bit environment on
On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
ProcessorStringName
Whoops. I think that is ProcessorNameString.
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On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Phil Davis wrote:
You give the most complete answers!
Thanks!
But, you'll notice that the hardware detection part is weak. Besides
ProcessorNameString in the registry, you might look at Identifier or
Platform ID. You might try testing for a bunch of CPU
Hi Phil,
Why not check the Registry trough a rev command line call ?
HTH,
Pierre
Le 14 sept. 2010 à 02:06, Phil Davis a écrit :
Does anyone have a clear-cut way for Rev to know whether it's running in a
32-bit or a 64-bit environment on Windows? Bonus points for being able to
identify
Thanks Pierre - what thing in the registry should I check?
Phil
On 9/14/10 3:51 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
Hi Phil,
Why not check the Registry trough a rev command line call ?
HTH,
Pierre
Le 14 sept. 2010 à 02:06, Phil Davis a écrit :
Does anyone have a clear-cut way for Rev to know
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On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
Does anyone have a clear-cut way for Rev to know whether it's
running in a 32-bit or a 64-bit environment on Windows?
Hardware CPU:
Under...
HKLM\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor\0
...find...
Identifier REG_SZ
If 64 is
DAR!
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On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
Otherwise, you don't know.
Hey Dar, its about time for another food fight!
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DAR! Where ya been?? Wow.
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DAR!
Yeah!
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Hey Dar, its about time for another food fight!
Good idea! I'm still slow after a four year coma, though.
Dar
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DAR! Where ya been?? Wow.
I got out early!
Dar
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Thanks Andy.
On 9/14/10 3:28 PM, AndyP wrote:
Hi Phil,
Try this is the message box.
put shell(systeminfo)
Part of the retuned info will include
System Type: X86-based PC
So.
x86-based PC: It’s a 32-bit computer.
x64-based PC: It’s a 64-bit computer.
On Win7
If you have a 64 bit
Does anyone have a clear-cut way for Rev to know whether it's running in a
32-bit or a 64-bit environment on Windows? Bonus points for being able to
identify hardware software 'bits' separately.
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Hi all,
i want to play around a little bit with QuickConnectiPhone (a javascript
framework). But for that i need Dashcode 2 on my machine, because the templates
of QuickConnectiPhone are only Dascode 2 compatible.
Does anymone know, if it is possible to have Xocde SDKs installed on the same
Matthias,
I keep a copy of each of two versions of xcode on my machine but the Developer
folder is blessed so I have to keep one of the copies on a separate hard drive
and delete the other when working with them. I tried just renaming them and
keeping both at the same time but since the root
Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
Regards,
Matthias
Am 14.05.2010 um 16:08 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
Matthias,
I keep a copy of each of two versions of xcode on my machine but the
Developer folder is blessed so I have
Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.
HTHs
Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
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Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
Regards,
Matthias
Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would
LOL, I thought I just answered that?
I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK
3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out.
I would go with SDK 3.1.5
Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
3mcgr...@comcast.net
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Yes you did. And i sent a direct reply to it, but used a wrong sender adress.
And so my e-mail was not accepted by the list.
I had to resend the e-mail. Used your original e-mail and copied by mistake my
old text into it. Sorry.
And also thanks for your answers.
Matthias
Am 14.05.2010 um
I thought I answered or I was going nuts. That was why I LOL'd.
Glad it helped.
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J. Landman Gay wrote:
Alex Tweedly wrote:
Joe F. wrote:
Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte.
I was actually expecting something like getSystemID to be built
into Revtalk, but...
You inspired me to make myself a script library.
Note this approach works 99% of the time, but can go
Alex Tweedly wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Monte's script looks at interface en0. Does your Wifi card register on
that one?
On OS X it looks at en0, but on Windows it does a search for Physical
address, so it uses the first one it happens to find (which is not
always the LAN cards).
Oh.
:
Does anyone know of a way to identify the Windows machine of a
certain user in a reliable way.
I want my app to download a stack file which will only run on one
user's machine.
Is there a way to access something like a MAC number or some unique
identifier on Windows machines.
Yep
wrote:
Don't bother.
All they have to do is install in a VM, or even in Wine. Then if
they move
the VM, or the Wine folder, the machine ID stays the same. So you
don't
achieve anything, all you do is annoy your less sophisticated
customers, who
will find someone who knows how to defeat
Joe F. wrote:
Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte.
I was actually expecting something like getSystemID to be built into
Revtalk, but...
You inspired me to make myself a script library.
Note this approach works 99% of the time, but can go wrong (or at least
be very confusing) if the
Thanks for covering that 1% Alex.
Added a notes field to my script library.
Joe F.
On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Joe F. wrote:
Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte.
I was actually expecting something like getSystemID to be built
into Revtalk, but...
You inspired
This version of the problem is interestingly different from the usual two
ways in which it presents. I've seen it from the perspective of a user
wanting not to be tied to one physical machine, and also from the
perspective of a vendor wishing to use tying to one particular machine to
inhibit
In my opinion, it depends on the kind of software. As developers, we tend to
have more than one machine, at least a notebook and a desktop where we write
software, but we never use both at the same time. In this case, tying the
software to a hardware ID is not suitable.
For production software
Alex Tweedly wrote:
Joe F. wrote:
Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte.
I was actually expecting something like getSystemID to be built into
Revtalk, but...
You inspired me to make myself a script library.
Note this approach works 99% of the time, but can go wrong (or at least
be very
Does anyone know of a way to identify the Windows machine of a certain
user in a reliable way.
I want my app to download a stack file which will only run on one
user's machine.
Is there a way to access something like a MAC number or some unique
identifier on Windows machines.
Bonus
On 30/03/2010, at 2:51 PM, Joe F. wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to identify the Windows machine of a
certain user in a reliable way.
I want my app to download a stack file which will only run on one
user's machine.
Is there a way to access something like a MAC number or some unique
Don't bother.
All they have to do is install in a VM, or even in Wine. Then if they move
the VM, or the Wine folder, the machine ID stays the same. So you don't
achieve anything, all you do is annoy your less sophisticated customers, who
will find someone who knows how to defeat
Thanks Richard and others who've posted on this. Very interesting
articles. Now *all* I need to to do is wrap my brain around all this and
decide how to proceed!
Marty
Marty Knapp wrote:
I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between
method. If your user then
Completely OT question. Do any of you do this? The method is that the
machine on first run produces a machine ID, and you then issue a license
key which is tied to that ID. The software can only be run on that
specific machine.
If so, or even if not, what is the usual and recommended
is that
the
machine on first run produces a machine ID, and you then issue a
license
key which is tied to that ID. The software can only be run on that
specific machine.
If so, or even if not, what is the usual and recommended package/
method to
use?
Peter
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Completely OT question. Do any of you do this? The method is that the
machine on first run produces a machine ID, and you then issue a license
key which is tied to that ID. The software can only be run on that
specific machine.
I don't bother, instead just using
Le 4 mars 2010 à 15:25, Mark Schonewille a écrit :
Hi Peter,
I use a MAC address for this, sometimes a drive serial number or computer
serial number. This can only work if the configuration of the computer isn't
going to change. In one project, I take the MAC address and check the
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE! Often I migrate software to a different machine, as in
the case when I got a new Macbook Pro and handed down mine to someone else.
That's two computers that your software would have been broken on.
I think it has been proven beyond dispute that if someone wants your
I should also mention that if you swap hard drives in two Macbook Pros, the
serial number of the machine will FOLLOW THE MACHINES! It's odd I know, but
true nonetheless. And as previously mentioned, if you have a motherboard
replaced, Apple will give you a refurbished one that has the serial
to
implement a heavy licensing system to our newest product which ties our
product to the single machine without any doubts.
Yes, we get furious calls, how we can be so cruel not to let the user
install it on all of his (and the rest of the world) machines. Yes, it is
much more support as having just
:(
Is that like flogging innocent folk in the streets to put criminals
off that potential punishment?
No Cheers,
Luis.
On 4 Mar 2010, at 16:35, Bob Sneidar wrote:
So do what Microsoft does. Charge the good men extra for the vices
of the wicked. :-)
Bob
Sorry Luis. It was meant tongue in cheek. And it's more like charging the
butcher double for a loaf of bread because the blacksmith won't pay me for a
bag of rice.
Bob
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Luis wrote:
:(
Is that like flogging innocent folk in the streets to put criminals off that
Tiemo Hollmann wrote:
In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely
free of copy protection, later we implemented a copy protection on some
programs, which were running off the CD.
We made the experience, that nobody ever thanked us the ease of use and lack
of licensing.
No harm done.
Cheers,
Luis.
On 4 Mar 2010, at 16:49, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Sorry Luis. It was meant tongue in cheek. And it's more like
charging the butcher double for a loaf of bread because the
blacksmith won't pay me for a bag of rice.
Bob
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Luis wrote:
:(
Just tossing out another option for people:
I've found with shareware I've written in the past that - in this day of
internet access - my customers didn't mind at all having to be connected to
the internet in order to gain access to their purchased software (read: ping
a server w/ their license
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Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
Tiemo Hollmann wrote:
In the first years our software was - in your intention
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Tiemo Hollmann wrote:
In the first years our software
Le 4 mars 2010 à 18:37, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
I did not mentioned that we had also some steps in between.
But many of the per-user licenses can be passed on.
I don't know how Adobe or Microsoft prevent people of passing their user
license to other people.
Tiemo
Adobe requires an
I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between
method. If your user then registered their key and someone else
subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some
recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative
hassles, so I like this
We use phone home authorization that uses machine-specific info. In
case of a user with two computers, a hard drive crash, etc., we let
people authorize additional computers with their email address and
password so they always have access to what they've purchased.
We police our database
, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote:
We use phone home authorization that uses machine-specific info. In case
of a user with two computers, a hard drive crash, etc., we let people
authorize additional computers with their email address and password so they
always have
Marty Knapp wrote:
I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between
method. If your user then registered their key and someone else
subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some
recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative
Andre Garzia wrote:
I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad
licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic
misfortune.
I was going to call the system the Schrodingers Quantum Copy Protection
Lock System patent it and win billions from holywood
funny tale below:
Once I lost both the serial generator for one of my software and the backup
for the given generator. People were buying the software but I could not
generate the serial for them, then, I remembered that I had not removed some
debug messages. So if invoked thru the terminal from
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
[... snip ...]
Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break
up the validation into multiple handlers each doing a small part of it,
using obscure function names strewn all over your
Jeff Massung wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote:
[... snip ...]
Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break
up the validation into multiple handlers each doing a small part of it,
using obscure function
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
Jeff Massung wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote:
[... snip ...]
Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break
up the
Well I guess the idea that men are basically good at heart is DOA. :-)
Bob
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Jeff Massung wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin
...
I agree with everything else you wrote, and it seems very reflective of
much of the Delphi Anti-Cracking FAQ, but on this I'm confused:
It seems like we're saying the same thing about obfuscation. Or maybe I
just wrote
While this thread is alive, I've long been curious what the criticisms would be
of the following scheme, for a product with low to medium security needs. This
does assume that you require an internet connection for registration, but that
seems to be a generally acceptable requirement these
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Andre Garzia wrote:
I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad
licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic
misfortune.
I was going to call the system the Schrodingers Quantum Copy Protection
Lock System patent it and
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Andre Garzia wrote:
I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad
licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic
misfortune.
I was going to call the system the
I think this might be very effective at locking people out...
including the developer. The process of observing the password could
change it.
On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to
bad
licensing and then catch
are happy we
can provide the offline registration method. May be, it varies on your
target market.
The other point is that your method also wouldn't be a per user license as
Richard and the others favorises. If a key is expired for use on one machine
the user can't use it again on his other machine
yesterday I received this revdb error:
revdberr,MySQL server has gone away
mwahahaha. I better go search for him, because we really need to get
this stuff done. Maybe I meet him at the coffee machine.
Cheers,
Malte *thinksheneedstowriteasongaboutthis
I opened my Laptops lid and wanted to dive into the
session where I left off yesterday I received this revdb error:
revdberr,MySQL server has gone away
mwahahaha. I better go search for him, because we really need to get
this stuff done. Maybe I meet him at the coffee machine.
Cheers
Malte-
Sunday, November 22, 2009, 1:34:24 AM, you wrote:
revdberr,MySQL server has gone away
It's Sunday morning. Maybe he's just sleeping late.
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Malte-
Sunday, November 22, 2009, 1:34:24 AM, you wrote:
revdberr,MySQL server has gone away
Ruslan
already analyzed). I am not using a separate index file.
The Mac is a MacBook with 10.4.11 and 1 GB of memory, so it should be enough
of RAM. There is no other (admin) user profile, it is a single user machine,
so all rights are available. Everything else is running fine on this
machine, so
user machine,
so all rights are available. Everything else is running fine on this
machine, so it can't be a corrupted memory modul. I gave all permission for
everyone to the app and inherited it to all files of the app and at least my
app runs fine on all other Macs (at least not this crash
Betreff: Re: crash on a single machine
On 5/28/09 4:39 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote:
Hi Tiemo,
* IS this a SINGLE your user who have 10.4.11?
or exists other?
* so from CD the application and DB is copied to HDD?
with Vstudio user can try open db and REINDEX
var and it started trashing my entire C drive...OUCH!
Ctrl-period couldn't stop it. Finally, I just pulled the plug on the
machine, went outside and yelled a bit at the stars ;-)
Our family pretty much knows not to download any .exe's and for the most
part GMail identifies any problematic emails
running on a
different
OS. Debian or PCLinux would be my choice of distro on older hardware.
Interesting to hear someone mention Acronis. Yes. Never lets you down.
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Jim,
I have been using Windows for several years now (was a Mac user in the
past-work pulled me to Windows)-have recenlty bought a Mac mini to test the
Mac side of my programs. I use the latest Norton Internet Security software
(I don't see any bogging down of the system that others have
Jim-
I keep a clean VMWare XP install image for purposes like this. When I
need to test something in a clean environment I make a copy of the
virgin image, mount it, and install whatever onto it. If anything goes
south I can just delete the image and start again. No need to endanger
my work
for testing out other software.
Using these images enables you to run various configurations of Windows
instantly, without the time-consuming process of backing up and restoring
drives. Just choose which OS you want from a menu. If your machine is
powerful enough, you can even run multiple virtual
the Windows machine at all. Cost me $49.
The TryDecide utility feature allows you to create a temporary copy
of your hard
disk. Using this copy, you can perform changes on the system that
otherwise might not
be advisable, such as installing new software, downloading files from
the Internet
I do most of my development on OS X but also make some Windows apps.
I have an older machine that runs XP and it never goes on the internet,
I use it to test basic development. When living in the city
(Valletta), to
test internet features for a Windows app I'd simply drop it on a USB
flash
Hi,
just tested machine() in the message box and it returned unknown.
Any help?
tia
David
David Flanders
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Environment: OSX 10.4.11
Intel core 2 duo 2.33 Ghz
17 PowerBook Pro
RR 2.8.1
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:38:09 -0500, David Flanders wrote:
Hi,
just tested machine() in the message box and it returned unknown.
Any help?
Well, if this is OS X, you can use shell() to get the data (you need to
parse it a little though). Here's something to get you started:
put shell
the 'page'.
Cheers,
Luis.
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
On Windows XP, put the machine returns x86 in Rev
2.8 gm-3.
Well, it could be worse :)
My fantasy is a set of commands whereby the following
facts can be ascertained:
Processor
OS
RAM
bus-speed
and a whole lot more while I'm riding the wave
My main machine is as follows:
Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed:1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed:167 MHz
Boot ROM
Hi Richmond,
My main machine is as follows:
Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed:1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed:167
wrote:
My main machine is as follows:
Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed:1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed:167 MHz
went and took a look in RR's documentation and found
'machine' and read the following:
Returns the type of hardware the application is
running on
so knocked up a stack with a Button and a Field,
the Button contained the following script:
on mouseUp
put the machine into fld fGUFF
end mouseUp
.
I went and took a look in RR's documentation and found
'machine' and read the following:
Returns the type of hardware the application is
running on
so knocked up a stack with a Button and a Field,
the Button contained the following script:
on mouseUp
put the machine into fld fGUFF
end mouseUp
On Windows XP, put the machine returns x86 in Rev 2.8 gm-3.
Probably not what you were looking for, and probably not very useful since
Intel Macs are also x86.
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On Windows XP, put the machine returns x86 in Rev
2.8 gm-3.
Well, it could be worse :)
My fantasy is a set of commands whereby the following
facts can be ascertained:
Processor
OS
RAM
bus-speed
and a whole lot more while I'm riding the wave . . .
this would make things considerably easier
It should be triggering an 'enterinfield'
On 04/02/07, Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to trap the Return key on the
keypad of a Windows machine running Windows 2000 and XP? In my
application, the last text entry when it is completed is supposed
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Does anyone have a suggestion on how to trap the Return key on the
keypad of a Windows machine running Windows 2000 and XP? In my
application, the last text entry when it is completed is supposed to
enable a button for calculation. It works using the standard Return
key on the keyboard
Hi,
Thanks a lot, that worked great, for anyone that is interested, here
is a function to return the local IP address:
--
--
-- Get the Local IP Address of this Machine
I have done the obvious thing:
I have lifted the scripts out of this recent thread
and combined them in a stack which I have just
uploaded to RevOnline:
IP Addresser
Credit IS given.
Love, Richmond
I have just read and signed the
Hi All,
How can I get the IP address of the machine that a stack is running on?
Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave
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I usually do that by sending a get URL request to a cgi script (Rev cgi
or php) that runs on a server and that returns the client IP.
JB
Hi All,
How can I get the IP address of the machine that a stack is running on?
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Hi All,
How can I get the IP address of the machine that a stack is
running on?
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http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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address of your machine with
put hostnametoaddress(localhost)
Best,
Mark
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