Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-16 Thread Martin Baxter
Bridger Maxwell wrote: Hey, I was just getting the Revolution update and I happened to notice that on one of the little info screens it displays as it installs it says, "You don't have to have a degree in programming to develop in Revolution. Revolution uses an easy to understand English-based l

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Bridger Maxwell
lar marketing morsels. We both concluded that those who might benefit most would probably not attend. Glad to hear you ran with it! PL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 8:44 AM Subject: Re: OT: Is there a more English-li

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread simplsol
y not attend. Glad to hear you ran with it! PL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 8:44 AM Subject: Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript? Excellent point Paul. You often say the

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language, than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Warren wrote: And my site, which mentions the name "Revolution" quite a lot, is constantly visited by the US military. I wonder why? Getting started early for this year's Jam Echelon Day on Oct. 21, eh? :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language, than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Bob Warren
Peter T. Evensen wrote: > The problem is "Revolution" is a normal word. Other names, like "ReadBasic," are more unique, and will always take you to where you want to go. And my site, which mentions the name "Revolution" quite a lot, is constantly visited by the US mil

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Stephen Barncard
Type in 'Runtime Revolution', its formal long name, and it comes up first. I always refer to 'Runtime' when speaking to others about it.. I hesitate to bring this up, but one problem with "Revolution" is the name. It is a unsearchable name. Image this guy going and Googling "Revolution." Wi

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Excellent point Paul. You often say the most interesting things! Thanks again for the advice about pricing you gave at the conference. I've implemented it on ButtonGadget and it seems to work :-) On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can be more specific with more knowledg

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread simplsol
definitely has its place and it is seldom difficult to know when to use it. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript? Si

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I hesitate to bring this up, but one problem with "Revolution" is the name. It is a unsearchable name. Image this guy going and Googling "Revolution." Will the RunRev site come up? It's the 6th link when I do it, and it comes up after "Revolution Software" which sounds like what one would w

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Andre Garzia
ho ho ho I am smiling now!!! :-) On Aug 15, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: OK, so, we have this 2 minute window to talk with him about what we do while he boots up Powerpoint on his 17" Macbook Pro. His first question was: "Hmmm, interesting, what is that coded in?" he's a super g

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sivakatirswami wrote: We just came back from a two-day NewsTrain conference for journalists, put on by Associated Press and the Knight foundation. We showed our Hinduism Today Digital Edition to a few people, one of whom is the "critically acclaimed, award winning web developer" Rob Curley (s

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-14 Thread Stephen Barncard
This supposedly hip web guy still uses Powerpoint? H... This man hired away some of Google's top engineers to join his IT team... he pays each one of back end IT team way up in the 6 figures, and any intern (he's big on $8/per hour "internology") lucky enough to work with him will leave hi

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-14 Thread Sivakatirswami
We just came back from a two-day NewsTrain conference for journalists, put on by Associated Press and the Knight foundation. We showed our Hinduism Today Digital Edition to a few people, one of whom is the "critically acclaimed, award winning web developer" Rob Curley (see robcurley.com) who h

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-14 Thread Robert Sneidar
g some really cool apps with it so others can see how productive we are with it. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language thanTranscript? ___

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 12, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: To manipulated computers via a computer language requires an odd sort of non-human logic which must be learnt by any would-be programmer; and, while some languages attempt to obscure that, without that nothing really effective gets don

OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I always find claims that any computer language is more like English than another rather odd and, potentially misleading. Computers are not human beings, and our "Western" society is in the unfortunate grip of an extended metaphor that we (humans) are merely very sophisticated computers, and co

RE: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-11 Thread Judy Perry
Wasn't it OpenScript?? My memory may be bad... Judy On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Richard Gaskin wrote: > After Director's Lingo, Flash's ActionScript, ToolBook's OpenTalk, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Chipp Walters
=SMACK= (perhaps the two of you could get a room) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-rev

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Sometimes the entire world isn't wrong. I didn't intend to say the entire world is wrong. I guess I must come across a little arrogant. I don't think I'm arrogant. Maybe just a little vain. Or obtuse. Maybe some day

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Sometimes the entire world isn't wrong. I didn't intend to say the entire world is wrong. I guess I must come across a little arrogant. I don't think I'm arrogant. Maybe just a little vain. Or obtuse. Maybe some day I'll be hammered

RE: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: I have had trouble explaining Transcript to customers, so now say Revolution. I've never had that trouble. I say I develop software with Revolution, and when I'm talking about the language specifically I say Transcript. After Director's Lingo, Flash's ActionScript, ToolBoo

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 10, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: As a language junkie I'd say xTalks including Transcript are easily and by far the most English-like programming languages on the planet. I was fortunate to be part of the team for Savvy which predated HyperTalk and shared many of the same co

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: And, to answer your opening question, Runtime Revolution is trying hard to get us to call the language Revolution. I'm resisting and I suspect lots of other folks are as well. I consider that a silly and ill-advised terminology change. But in their official literature, it's now

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
I completely agree with you, Dan. In my daily work, it is just not practical to call both the software and the language Revolution. I just continue to call it Transcript. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Down

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi David, Yes, I think that the xTalk-family provides us with the most English- like programming languages. Anything more sophisticated is doable, but also a lot of work. As an example, here is a script which responds to polite requests to create an object. Don't take this example too seri

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread Dan Shafer
As a language junkie I'd say xTalks including Transcript are easily and by far the most English-like programming languages on the planet. Like all languages, it has some constructs that don't come out very English-like but I don't know of any other language that comes close. And, to answer your o

OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread David Bovill
By the way is Transcript still the official term for Revs programming language? Spent an hour looking for links references and articles on English-like programming languages - looking at the syntax. Found no good links yet. Lots of stuff about COBOL, things about how it was the flavour of the mon

OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-10 Thread David Bovill
By the way is Transcript still the official term for Revs programming language? Spent an hour looking for links references and articles on English-like programming languages - looking at the syntax. Found no good links yet. Lots of stuff about COBOL, things about how it was the flavour of the mon