Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Been thinking about what inspired me more than anything to do the Rodeo project in the face of the Apple lock down and its psychological devastation. Here it is in one picture: http://jerrydaniels.com/brendans-action-formula Best, Jerry Daniels Create iPad web apps with Rodeo: http://rodeoapp

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Peter, As regards your point of view, I agree. It may be an excessively pessimistic. Best, Jerry Daniels Create iPad web apps with Rodeo: http://rodeoapps.com On May 21, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > > It may be an excessively pessimistic point of view, but one doubts you'll

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

It may be an excessively pessimistic point of view, but one doubts you'll get away with it long term. The problem Apple has is that applications and content are merging. Sooner or later, to continue its present policies, it is going to have to move to censorship of what we now call content, but

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Hey, Scott! Happy to clarify. Gods willing, we will eventually have an app in the app store that is essentially a browser shell that runs Rodeo web apps. We can then roll anyone else's web pages into an app for them for submission to the app store. Apps with open-ended, unpredictable content ar

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Recently, Jerry Daniels wrote: > We now have a desktop app for the Mac that formats our new LIST code, and > sends it to the Rodeo server where it's quickly made into simple (for now) web > pages that look great on the iPad. The Mac editor also has a nice preview pane > so you can see the fruits o

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Ian, Not surprisingly, I happen to agree with you. I would go so far as to say Rodeo is what people like the original HyperCard team would have done today. Thanks to the kick starters and a modest upsurge in tRev purchases, we have made enough progress on Rodeo to get something in people's han

RE: HyperCard for the iPad

> http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/apples-app-store-said-to-ha > ve-99-4-percent-of-all-mobile-app-sa/ > > I've not managed to find estimates that are more recent, but > that's a scary ratio for anyone hoping to make money from > Android apps as an alternative to the iPhone/iPad. :-( Still se

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20 May 2010, at 22:02, Richard Gaskin wrote: The night is young. :) Definitely. Interesting times ahead. :-) Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subs

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Ian Wood wrote: On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote: Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal was rejected. 16% of the market

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote: Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal was rejected. 16% of the market that make u

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20 May 2010, at 16:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/ iPad only if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS. Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still refused.

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

François Chaplais wrote: > Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are > many calculator apps, if you want to go this way. >> >> On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted >> instructions only if you name your app "Bento", "Numbers", or >> "GameSalad"

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are many calculator apps, if you want to go this way. > > On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted > instructions only if you name your app "Bento", "Numbers", or "GameSalad". > __

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20/05/2010 22:10, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Someplace in Cupertino there is Politbureau sayinging no, life is as it was in 1985 Alas, it is not. No, it isn't 1985; but in North Korea it is somewhere round about 1950; in China it is a real case of mixed calendars, and in Venezuela the

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

David Bovill wrote: I agree with Bob here Richard. On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar wrote: RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue. It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that Rev was offered fo

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Yes, mostly agree with this. The link quotes earlier says: "I was working at Apple when this process happened, and I can tell you that it was searing. Apple had invested countless hours and dollars marketing those products as prominent reasons to buy Macs, and then we saw that investment turned

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

I agree with Bob here Richard. On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar wrote: > RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be > iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue. > It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that Rev was offered for one platform or ma

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

> > Apple's OS X isn't the only OS with deeply integrated search, or the only > one with good multitasking, or even the only one with the strength of having > Unix at its core. > > No the best OS in terms of integrated search, multitasking and having some unix features at its core is Haiku. Nothin

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue. Bob On May 20, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only if > they could have complete assurances it would be

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

David Bovill wrote: On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS. Kevin offered to do exactly that, and w

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20 May 2010 16:57, Andre Garzia wrote: > now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the > world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN > just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought > by Apple when His Ste

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: > > I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only >> if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for >> iPhone OS. >> > > Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still r

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought by Apple when His Steveness will be again CEO, rinse, repeat On Thu, May

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS. Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still refused. It's in his blog post. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

Jerry Daniels wrote: MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is. Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also. GMTA:

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is. Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link dur

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

totally agree. plus: totally fit for the iPhone/iPad. But we may see this someday. See this (sorta funny) blogpost http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/18/when-jobs-says-no-we-hear-maybe-heres-why/ Le 20 mai 2010 à 16:36, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > David Bovill wrote: > >> So perhaps it is worth asking al

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

David Bovill wrote: So perhaps it is worth asking along which lines a real HyperCard app could be made on the iPhone? Jeanne DeVoto shared this link with the improve-rev list recently, a blog written by someone who used to work at Apple who applies the insights from his history there to this

Re: HyperCard for the iPad

I agree and put my signature, but for iPad ! René Le 20 mai 2010 à 14:34, David Bovill a écrit : > This has been troubling me. Steve jobs is reputed to have said: > > “Something like HyperCard on the iPad? Yes, but someone would have to create > it” > > at the Apple’s shareholder > meeting