Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
And their cows shudder when someone goes to get a pint of milk. Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: > >> fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints) > > No wonder the Scots have a high tolerance for alcohol. "I'll have

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints) No wonder the Scots have a high tolerance for alcohol. "I'll have another pint, please." -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Bonner
Runtime is what happens when the Revolution is going badly. As in "Uh oh, its runtime!" Define: runtime; To advance to the rear. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Frankly, I think any revolution whose founding principle and main goal is > to "run time" is both absurd and eg

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
Frankly, I think any revolution whose founding principle and main goal is to "run time" is both absurd and egomaniacal. So you conquer the whole world! So what?? You are no closer to "running time" than you were before you started! The cheek! And another thing, if someone is going to start a rev

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Richmond
On 11/09/2010 08:23 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Now I remember why I like the Scottish! Because they still flatly refuse to accept Metrics! Bob Well, really we are not totally keen on English stuff such as Yards, preferring Ells. The rot set in when the Scot parliament, packed with bribed folk

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
Now I remember why I like the Scottish! Because they still flatly refuse to accept Metrics! Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 11/09/2010 07:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: >> >>> They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tu

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Richmond
On 11/09/2010 07:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your stat

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sounds like one of those songs the Orcs sang in the halls of Moria. Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: > > On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: >> >> Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. > > > They may have dropped the name, but this R

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes st

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Richmond
On 11/09/2010 01:35 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The comp

RE: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread John Dixon
Nice one... > From: dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:35:11 + > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup > They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard > blasting out of one office w

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread Dave Cragg
On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: > > Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-09 Thread David Bovill
On 8 November 2010 20:00, Richmond wrote: > > I have been known to break the law in my time; but I draw the line at > breaking the law singing > a Communist song; or, put it another way; it's an awful pity they didn't > shoot Che before the > creation of the iconic head. > Yes, I think this was

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread Richmond
On 11/08/2010 09:41 PM, David Bovill wrote: Even funnier is that it is not legal to sing "The Internationale" in the streets of France - so to utter the words: Arise, ye workers from your slumber, Arise, ye prisoners of want. For reason in revolt now thunders, and at last ends the age of cant!

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread David Bovill
Even funnier is that it is not legal to sing "The Internationale" in the streets of France - so to utter the words: Arise, ye workers from your slumber, > Arise, ye prisoners of want. > For reason in revolt now thunders, > and at last ends the age of cant! > Away with all your superstitions, > Ser

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread David Bovill
Here is a good link for Faire Use - http://centerforsocialmedia.org/fair-use Oh - and another probably more important point which has nothing to do with the copying - is the issue of "public broadcast", so while you can watch a DVD with friends at home, in a school is another matter - which is why

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread Richmond
On 11/08/2010 08:58 PM, David Bovill wrote: In most countries this is what you would call legally defensible under faire use or the equivalent in your jurisdiction. There is no case I know of where someone has been prosecuted for copyright infringement by making a backup copy for personal use, gi

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread Richmond
On 11/08/2010 08:58 PM, Marc Siskin wrote: Richmond, One "legal" factor you want to keep in mind is the number of concurrent playbacks per dvd. The backup argument is only good as long as you have a DVD for each concurrent viewing of the movie. E.g. 3 concurrent viewings = 3 DVDs. And all o

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread David Bovill
In most countries this is what you would call legally defensible under faire use or the equivalent in your jurisdiction. There is no case I know of where someone has been prosecuted for copyright infringement by making a backup copy for personal use, given that they own a legal copy in another medi

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread Marc Siskin
Richmond, One "legal" factor you want to keep in mind is the number of concurrent playbacks per dvd. The backup argument is only good as long as you have a DVD for each concurrent viewing of the movie. E.g. 3 concurrent viewings = 3 DVDs. And all of this is in the realm of non-tested law.

Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup

2010-11-08 Thread stephen barncard
What you described is 'fair use' in the US. It means 'backup copy for personal use'. On 8 November 2010 10:35, Richmond wrote: > My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to > being > a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD > playback > on m