It may be an excessively pessimistic point of view, but one doubts you'll get
away with it long term. The problem Apple has is that applications and
content are merging. Sooner or later, to continue its present policies, it
is going to have to move to censorship of what we now call content, but
Peter,
As regards your point of view, I agree. It may be an excessively pessimistic.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Create iPad web apps with Rodeo:
http://rodeoapps.com
On May 21, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
It may be an excessively pessimistic point of
Been thinking about what inspired me more than anything to do the Rodeo project
in the face of the Apple lock down and its psychological devastation.
Here it is in one picture:
http://jerrydaniels.com/brendans-action-formula
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Create iPad web apps with Rodeo:
I agree and put my signature, but for iPad !
René
Le 20 mai 2010 à 14:34, David Bovill a écrit :
This has been troubling me. Steve jobs is reputed to have said:
“Something like HyperCard on the iPad? Yes, but someone would have to create
it”
at the Apple’s shareholder
David Bovill wrote:
So perhaps it is worth asking along which lines a real HyperCard app could
be made on the iPhone?
Jeanne DeVoto shared this link with the improve-rev list recently, a
blog written by someone who used to work at Apple who applies the
insights from his history there to
totally agree. plus: totally fit for the iPhone/iPad.
But we may see this someday. See this (sorta funny) blogpost
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/18/when-jobs-says-no-we-hear-maybe-heres-why/
Le 20 mai 2010 à 16:36, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
David Bovill wrote:
So perhaps it is worth asking along
MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is
HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is.
Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got
the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Use tRev's buy link
Jerry Daniels wrote:
MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is
HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is.
Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got
the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also.
GMTA:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad
only if they could have complete assurances it would be available
EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still refused. It's in his
blog post.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay
now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the
world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN
just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought
by Apple when His Steveness will be again CEO, rinse, repeat
On Thu,
On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only
if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for
iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that,
On 20 May 2010 16:57, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the
world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN
just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought
by
David Bovill wrote:
On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only
if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for
iPhone OS.
Kevin
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be iPhone/iPad
only. That isn't the issue.
Bob
On May 20, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only if
they could have complete assurances it would be
Apple's OS X isn't the only OS with deeply integrated search, or the only
one with good multitasking, or even the only one with the strength of having
Unix at its core.
No the best OS in terms of integrated search, multitasking and having some
unix features at its core is Haiku. Nothing
I agree with Bob here Richard.
On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be
iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue.
It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that Rev
was offered for one
Yes, mostly agree with this. The link quotes earlier says:
I was working at Apple when this process happened, and I can tell you that
it was searing. Apple had invested countless hours and dollars marketing
those products as prominent reasons to buy Macs, and then we saw that
investment turned
David Bovill wrote:
I agree with Bob here Richard.
On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar bobs at twft.com wrote:
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be
iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue.
It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that
On 20/05/2010 22:10, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
snip
Someplace in Cupertino there is Politbureau sayinging no, life is as it was
in 1985 Alas, it is not.
No, it isn't 1985; but in North Korea it is somewhere round about 1950; in
China it is a real case of mixed calendars, and in
Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are many
calculator apps, if you want to go this way.
On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted
instructions only if you name your app Bento, Numbers, or GameSalad.
François Chaplais wrote:
Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are
many calculator apps, if you want to go this way.
On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted
instructions only if you name your app Bento, Numbers, or
GameSalad.
True, and if
On 20 May 2010, at 16:46, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/
iPad only if they could have complete assurances it would be
available EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still
On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they
have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been
suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal
was rejected.
16% of the market that make
Ian Wood wrote:
On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they
have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been
suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal
was rejected.
16% of the
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/apples-app-store-said-to-ha
ve-99-4-percent-of-all-mobile-app-sa/
I've not managed to find estimates that are more recent, but
that's a scary ratio for anyone hoping to make money from
Android apps as an alternative to the iPhone/iPad. :-(
Still seems
Ian,
Not surprisingly, I happen to agree with you. I would go so far as to say Rodeo
is what people like the original HyperCard team would have done today.
Thanks to the kick starters and a modest upsurge in tRev purchases, we have
made enough progress on Rodeo to get something in people's
Recently, Jerry Daniels wrote:
We now have a desktop app for the Mac that formats our new LIST code, and
sends it to the Rodeo server where it's quickly made into simple (for now) web
pages that look great on the iPad. The Mac editor also has a nice preview pane
so you can see the fruits of
Hey, Scott!
Happy to clarify. Gods willing, we will eventually have an app in the app store
that is essentially a browser shell that runs Rodeo web apps. We can then roll
anyone else's web pages into an app for them for submission to the app store.
Apps with open-ended, unpredictable content
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