Check out information from one user from about eight years
ago (!) in
building a kiosk project, comparing Valentina with MS Access. Of
course, you probably wouldn't do this with Access today, but worth
considering is that this is with major hardware constraints, the
overhead of
Le 1 nov. 2010 à 16:09, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :
Check out information from one user from about eight years
ago (!) in
building a kiosk project, comparing Valentina with MS Access. Of
course, you probably wouldn't do this with Access today, but worth
considering is that this is with
On 10/31/10 12:10 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote:
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes to
capacity and performance, that's a bit different.
Indeed. With
On 10/30/10 10:14 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
wrote:
Yes, I've been waiting for Ruslan to chime in here. Valentina has been the
*elephant in the room* in this discussion and I find it slightly odd that
Richard (no newbie in the Rev world) hadn't considered this
On 10/31/10 12:14 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
However, the TPC doesn't have the power to run benchmark tests
on a database platform without the approval of the database
vendor. In fact, with the exception of IBM, most major database
vendors include in
Le 30 oct. 2010 à 23:41, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
.jhtml?articleID=201001901
If a test could be setup in benchmarking the same test database set to run as :
- PHP+ Oracle 11g
- PHP+PostgreSQL 8.2
- PHP+ Valentina
- LiveCode
On 10/31/10 12:41 AM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com
wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
.jhtml?articleID=201001901
That's an interesting benchmark, I wish I had a couple of $60K to $75K
server boxes handy so we could see how Valentina would
On 10/31/10 9:55 AM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:
Hi Pierre,
If a test could be setup in benchmarking the same test database set to run as
:
- PHP+ Oracle 11g
- PHP+PostgreSQL 8.2
- PHP+ Valentina
- LiveCode server+Oracle 11g
- LiveCode server+PostgreSQL 8.2
- LiveCode
Thanks for this interesting post, Ruslan.
It point me on the need to learn more about Valentina, as soon as i will get
enough time for this.
Best Regards,
Pierre
Le 31 oct. 2010 à 09:42, Ruslan Zasukhin a écrit :
On 10/31/10 9:55 AM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:
Hi Pierre,
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With LiveCode, for example, fields can *theoretically* hold up to
4GB, but I pity the person who tries it.
There's often a vast difference between theoretical addressing
limits and real-world use, hence my interest in finding actual use
I'm not sure at all that PostgreSQL would be slower than
Oracle 11g, on both the OpenSuse 11 and OSX SL platforms and
it would be interesting to know how Valentina performs for
its own against both PostgreSQL and Oracle (would it be
faster, as it's presented to to be on the
Hi Lynn,
I'm not sure at all that PostgreSQL would be slower than
Oracle 11g, on both the OpenSuse 11 and OSX SL platforms and
it would be interesting to know how Valentina performs for
its own against both PostgreSQL and Oracle (would it be
faster, as it's presented to to be on the
many of the data stores for the major apple apps use sqlite. it's a petty
robust single user data store.
kee nethery
On Oct 29, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Mark Stuart wrote:
on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets
On 10/30/10 3:17 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
I have a need coming up for a data store that can robustly handle at
least a million records, ideally up to five million, where each record
may be as large as 5k.
I don't need relationality, so for me SQLite
On 10/30/10 4:10 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
Hi Mark,
Mark Stuart wrote:
on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
SQLite.
Hi Richard,
How many tables and how
Sivakatirswami wrote:
I was using and old example SQL stack... small data returns were fast,
but a lot of data (select * from table whatever.. i.e. everything)
from a PostGreSQL database adding it to a display field. It took
forever...
Then I remembered Dont' Do That!
When I got all the
many of the data stores for the major apple apps use sqlite.
it's a petty robust single user data store.
Of course I don't need to expand on what Ruslan will say about Valentina,
but I will say that there's a right tool for each job, and others that sort
of work but aren't optimal. I can use
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
_management_systems#Limits
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes to
capacity and
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
_management_systems#Limits
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes
There are some database vendors that in their EULAs state
you cannot
publish performance data, and also have sued some who have done so.
A curious limitation. Which ones?
A bad Halloween joke first:
Q: Where do vampires learn to suck blood?
A: Law school.
Without naming names, Ones
Yes, I've been waiting for Ruslan to chime in here. Valentina has been the
*elephant in the room* in this discussion and I find it slightly odd that
Richard (no newbie in the Rev world) hadn't considered this product for his
project.
If I were starting a new db project right now and wasn't
Lynn-
Saturday, October 30, 2010, 11:15:48 AM, you wrote:
Without naming names, Ones with a Really Awesome, Conniving Legal
Environments have been known to include such things.
Sounds a bit of an urban legend. I just checked my license (granted
it's only version 8.0.5, but...) and there's
Without naming names, Ones with a Really Awesome, Conniving Legal
Environments have been known to include such things.
Sounds a bit of an urban legend. I just checked my license
(granted it's only version 8.0.5, but...) and there's nothing
like that.
It was big news a few years ago
Could you post some of your results here Richard.
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On 31/10/2010, at 2:23 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
It seems in my initial tests that the time it takes to get data through the
externals interface is much long than what it takes to move data
On 31/10/2010, at 4:55 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
_management_systems#Limits
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a
Interesting find:
The Truth About the TPC
...
For example, one reader asked, Why does the TPC organization
only test commercially licensed operating systems and databases?
My presumptions would lead me to think that a non-profit based
organization would be benchmarking anything they
Richard-
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201001901
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Indeed. With LiveCode, for example, fields can
*theoretically* hold up to 4GB, but I pity the person who tries it.
My point was that given your expected max db size of 5kB *
500 is 23GB this is only a very small fraction of the
stated theoretical limits of SQLite.
I have a feeling
Oracle, Sybase, and Informix each have a similar clause. These
clauses are generically referred to as DeWitt clauses. David
DeWitt was one of the founders of the Wisconsin Benchmarks,
which were first published in the mid-1980s. At that time, the
Wisconsin Benchmarks published
Right now they are offering the beta of Valentina Studio Pro
for free ( and there's a free Valentina Linux server for
non-commercial use - Richmond?)
geesh, I just talked myself into finally trying this product myself.
I don't see any other db company bending over backward to
serve
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
.jhtml?articleID=201001901
That's an interesting benchmark, I wish I had a couple of $60K to $75K
server boxes handy so we could see how Valentina would do. We've always
emphasized what can be done with modest hardware specs.
Best
I have a need coming up for a data store that can robustly handle at
least a million records, ideally up to five million, where each record
may be as large as 5k.
I don't need relationality, so for me SQLite is an option but only an
option; I'm happy to consider other options as well. (Yes,
on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
SQLite.
Hi Richard,
How many tables and how many columns per table (on average) are you
talking about?
That can make a big difference to the performance if there are
Mark Stuart wrote:
on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
SQLite.
Hi Richard,
How many tables and how many columns per table (on average) are you
talking about?
Probably just a single table, with about
On 10/29/10 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It'll vary, and in my own tests that seems to be the only bottleneck
with SQLit; queries that return little data are ultra speedy, but once
we get into large amounts of return data I see the hit.
Just a reminder, which you probably don't need at
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems#Limits
Maybe use limit and offset to page through query results though.
Cheers
Monte
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