Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-04 Thread Chipp Walters
I remember visiting with Bob Stein somewhere about that time. I recall him showing us his new media building toolkit, and being rather unimpressed by it all. He touted it as the next great thing, but a few of us where decided ho-hum. Overall, I came away with the impression Bob was mostly a sales

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- released, where you had to create a project in a save-disabled version of the program, and send that in (try to work that out!). I won a tee- ...all right - I'll bite. How in the world did you manage that? -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:31 AM, James Richards wrote: Have you seen Sophie http://www.fourthworld.com/products/sophie/index.html which was written in Revolution? I don't know exactly how it compares to VEBs, but the facility to create plugins seems to offer a wide range

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-04 Thread Colin Holgate
On Feb 4, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: released, where you had to create a project in a save-disabled version of the program, and send that in (try to work that out!). I won a tee- ...all right - I'll bite. How in the world did you manage that? mTropolis could publish in

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-03 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Colin, Murph! thanks could not remember his name. It was the A World Alive project we were doing with him, it was sea studio's film and i was helping him pull all the parts together at the studio.. Glad to hear hes a producer now with scholastic! Sorry, i got it confused with another

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
be generalized and subsumed into layers much lower in the computational stack. randall -Original Message- From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution Mail List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2008 11:56 PM Subject: Re: about Voyager Expanded Books Recently, Colin Holgate wrote

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
/2008 6:37 AM Subject: RE: about Voyager Expanded Books I hope quark used its ownership of mTropolis for more than market culling. I hope they cannibalized the kernal and object library IP. I am now remembering downloading a test version and finding it icon bar and pallet happy. I have seen

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-02 Thread Jim Carwardine
Bob gave me a copy of the Voyager series, if I recall correctly, it was all about the planets or something, which I still have but haven't looked at since back then... Jim On 1-Feb-08, at 4:10 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: At 2:46 PM -0400 2/1/08, Jim Carwardine wrote: I showed it to Bob Stein

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Bob gave me a copy of the Voyager series, if I recall correctly, it was all about the planets or something, which I still have but haven't looked at since back then... Jim Not sure what the planets thing was. The launch title Expanded

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-02 Thread Sivakatirswami
As for Quark: they ate us alive (10's M's of $ over * of years, for -2 new features +3 new bugs) until we escaped into the only slightly more benevolent world of Adobe CS. Re buy and kill off.. mTropolis, not a big loss (we have Revolution) much greater tragedy was MS killing Living Cells

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread James Richards
Have you seen Sophie http://www.fourthworld.com/products/sophie/ index.html which was written in Revolution? I don't know exactly how it compares to VEBs, but the facility to create plugins seems to offer a wide range of capabilities. On 30 Jan 08, at 8:30p.m., Colin Holgate wrote: I

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:31 AM, James Richards wrote: Have you seen Sophie http://www.fourthworld.com/products/sophie/index.html which was written in Revolution? I don't know exactly how it compares to VEBs, but the facility to create plugins seems to offer a wide range of capabilities. I

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Jim Carwardine
The last time I had anything to do with Voyager was at MacWorld in San Fransico about 1991 or 92 when I was showing my new electronic book app called BookBuilder, built in Hypercard, to anyone who would look ( and buy it). I showed it to Bob Stein at his booth and he said, I can't look at

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Colin Holgate
At 2:46 PM -0400 2/1/08, Jim Carwardine wrote: I showed it to Bob Stein at his booth and he said, I can't look at this. This looks just like what we are doing. If that's what he said then it would have been 1992. I programmed the Expanded Books during October and November 1991, and another

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Colin Holgate
At 1:02 PM -0800 2/1/08, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Anybody remember the illuminated text series by robert able for IBM? The first time I met Bob Abel was around 1990, and as it was at an Apple sponsored event (I was the Apple support technician for the event) I'm pretty sure the work he did

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
- From: Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: about Voyager Expanded Books At 2:46 PM -0400 2/1/08, Jim Carwardine wrote: I showed it to Bob Stein at his booth and he said, I can't look at this. This looks

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2008 1:18 PM Subject: RE: about Voyager Expanded Books At 1:02 PM -0800 2/1/08, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Anybody remember the illuminated text series by robert able for IBM? The first time I met Bob Abel was around 1990

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: What did happen to toolbook? Another question i always forget to ask is what happened to that very promicing authoring app out of utah or denver that was hyped as a real object based drag and drop hypermedia builder? Anyone remember

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2008 6:18 PM Subject: Re: about Voyager Expanded Books On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: What did happen to toolbook? Another question i always forget to ask is what happened to that very promicing authoring app out of utah or denver

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: mTropolis, that was it... I think. Did you own it? Do you own it? Voyager had it, and did one CD-ROM using it (not done by me). That was Fun With Architecture, and mTropolis was chosen because the program needed to have a lot of

RE: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2008 9:01 PM Subject: Re: about Voyager Expanded Books On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: mTropolis, that was it... I think. Did you own it? Do you own it? Voyager had it, and did one CD-ROM using it (not done by me). That was Fun

Re: about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-02-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Colin Holgate wrote: I'm not sure what Quark had at the time that was competitive, but there was something, hence buying and killing the competition. Quark Immedia Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design

about Voyager Expanded Books

2008-01-30 Thread Colin Holgate
I chanced across an old topic to do with the Voyager Expanded Books, I think someone was asking about whether it would be possible to do that in Revolution. Well, of course it would be possible! I don't think though that converting the HyperCard versions would be the right way to go. Instead