MetaCard/Revolution help needed
Hello I am trying to find MetaCard/Revolution users who may be interested in helping me in developing a MetaCard/Valentina application. Our office is located in Brisbane, Australia. We would prefer someone in South East Queensland. With thanks, Peter McConachie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text encoding q, problems with networked folder and IDE
At 11:44 AM -0800 1/7/03, Alex Rice wrote: 3) I remember reading somewhere that one should open the stack using Revolution IDE on the target platform, then save the stack, to convert the text encoding of all the cards. Is this correct? Anything else to get the text encoding converted correctly? I'm mainly interested in fast startup times. That's right. From the docs: -- When you save a stack, its text is encoded using either the ISO character set (on Unix or Windows systems) or the Macintosh character set (on Mac OS or OS X systems). If you open the stack on a system that uses the other character set, Revolution converts all the text in the stack to use the current character set, and the process takes noticeable time if the stack contains a great deal of text in fields or scripts. - So the text is converted automatically when you open the stack on the other set of platforms (Mac OS/OS X versus Unix/Windows), and you just have to save it to get the benefit. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - The Solution for Software Development http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 02:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rev can only do what's physically possible: because of the Mac's unique dual-fork file system (data and resources) no other platform can create a Mac executable. But Mac OSX doesn't use this dual-fork file system anymore... Maybe I am missing your point, but... yes it does; the default install of OS X uses HFS+ which is the same filesystem used by older Mac OS versions. HFS+ is fast and supports resource forks. Installing OS X on UFS (case sensitive, slow, no resource forks) is highly discouraged unless you have a VERY good reason to use it. e.g. you have a Unix program that cannot deal with case preserving filesystem like HFS+. The situation is a bit confusing for developers on OS X though. App developers on OS X can use CFM or MachO binary formats, file extensions and app bundles or and resource fork data/creator codes. Mix and match. Use all, or use none. And hope the Finder and the OS can figure it out :-) Personally I think an application bundle w/ the XML property lists and resources contained within the bundle is pretty cool. I never liked ResEdit. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.0 To Be Previewed At Macworld
On Mittwoch, Jänner 8, 2003, at 10:24 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klaus, In general, people take things (and themselves) much too seriously. These are the very people that need a jolt now-and-then as a reminder to change perspective. Im not Klaus, but I agree... regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Cheese
Recommended reading: Cheese Primer by Steven Jenkins (Sorry, Heather, I couldn't resist.) Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications http://www.hsj.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac
Title: RE: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac for the moment there are still 79% and the amount of OS 9 users and less are still fewer and fewer buy the moment you may read this mail it will 'propable' will be 78% -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rev can only do what's physically possible: because of the Mac's unique dual-fork file system (data and resources) no other platform can create a Mac executable. But Mac OSX doesn't use this dual-fork file system anymore... But the other 80% of Mac users do. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Standalone Icons
Hi, Using 10.2.3, Rev 1.1.1r2 Will appreciate help. So far, haven't found any help in searching the archives. My problem is that the substacks' icon (in the components folder of the data folder) is not represented by the Data type icon in the BNDL resource. How can I accomplish this? I have no trouble in obtaining my custom icon for the application(OS PPC checked in builder). I have a file for a BNDL resource (APPL and Data types and their associated icons created in ResEdit) which I use in Distr Bldr-MacOS Options. TIA Regards ... Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone Icons
--- Robert Presender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Using 10.2.3, Rev 1.1.1r2 Will appreciate help. So far, haven't found any help in searching the archives. My problem is that the substacks' icon (in the components folder of the data folder) is not represented by the Data type icon in the BNDL resource. How can I accomplish this? I have no trouble in obtaining my custom icon for the application(OS PPC checked in builder). I have a file for a BNDL resource (APPL and Data types and their associated icons created in ResEdit) which I use in Distr Bldr-MacOS Options. TIA Regards ... Bob Hi Bob, Have a look at the 'stackFileType' entry in the Transcript Dictionary. Basically, it allows you to set the 'Creator' and 'Type' 4-byte codes for stacks you create. For stacks you've created before or were placed in the Data folder upon distribution-building, you can use ResEdit or some other tool to change these codes manually. I believe there are a few utilities out there that can automate this. Or you can write a simple AppleScript droplet that changes these codes for you. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PEF and machO was Internationalization
manuel companys wrote: Thank you for your explanation, Jeanne. Mach-O looks more ... à la Unix to me. Am I right? My understanding is it's more of a compromise between the NeXT folks and the Mac loyalists at Apple. These two camps slugged it out heavily during the evolution of NeXT into OS X, and some issues still have the long-term plan remaining to be defined (such as the fate of creator codes). By having folders that pretend to be applications, Apple can have bundled resources and metadata without relying on the resource fork. As a Mac-specific feature, the dual-fork paradigm introduces new challenges when porting from UNIX or NeXT. While Classic is still supported the file system that understands resource forks remains in place. But with Mach-O bundles as the long-term solution, resource forks will eventually be phased out. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Limit tabbing in a field
I have a two column field that I want to limit the user tabbing in. I want the user to be able to tab to navigate from the first column to the second column, but then not be able to tab to a third column. Is there a way to "lock" a field to only use two columns?Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac
All Thanks for all the feedback. And for the dual-fork file system discussion going on, I've been told by the Rev folks (Geoff) that Rev 2.0 *will* allow one to build a OSX distribution from any platform. Shawn Rev can only do what's physically possible: because of the Mac's unique dual-fork file system (data and resources) no other platform can create a Mac executable. But Mac OSX doesn't use this dual-fork file system anymore... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening Windows-made stack on a Mac
Michael S. Rampy wrote: Thanks for all the feedback. And for the dual-fork file system discussion going on, I've been told by the Rev folks (Geoff) that Rev 2.0 *will* allow one to build a OSX distribution from any platform. Yes, the new Mach-O format does not require a resource fork, putting resources and metadata into files within a folder and then having the folder pretend to be an application (a bundle). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Limit tabbing in a field
--- Mike Bleed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a two column field that I want to limit the user tabbing in. I want the user to be able to tab to navigate from the first column to the second column, but then not be able to tab to a third column. Is there a way to lock a field to only use two columns? Hi Mike, One way to accomplish this is by handling the 'tabKey' message in your field script. Example to get you started: on tabKey if tab is in the value of the selectedline of me then beep else pass tabKey end if end tabkey Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PEF and machO was Internationalization
Le Thursday, 9 Jan 2003, à 09:44 US/Central, Richard Gaskin a écrit : But with Mach-O bundles as the long-term solution, resource forks will eventually be phased out. I thought they were already so; I mean not used in macOS X. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
Very well said Miss Moderator. Jeff Crossley ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Puzzled with behaviour of a script of mine,works in IDE but not in standalone
I have a button that uses the following script; send delete this card to this card in 500 milliseconds The button invokes the execution of this script in the stack itself. It works ok in the development environment BUT DOES NOT work in the standalone application. I'm willing to bet that I am not the first to experience this problem and would appreciate any insights that direct me towards what I am missing or even how I could narrow down the problem on my own. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PlayStopped called when setting the filename of a player (???)
Ok, here's a strange one. Apparently the playstopped message is sent whenever you set the filename of a player to a file. Is it just me or does this not make any sense? Try this: create a player test create a button with this script: on mouseup answer file Select a file set the filename of player test to it end mouseup In the card script put: on playstopped put I haven't even started end playstopped When you set the player to a filename, the playstopped script executes. Why?? Regards, Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
Politics, religion and cheese are all off topic. Off topic posts should be marked with the header OT, and kept to a minimum. I would like to suggest that the policy of the list should be that off-topic posts pushing religious, moral or political views are banned. They have no place on a specialized list such as this one, can be offensive to those who do not share these views, and only increase the noise on the list. There are plenty of other places on the internet where people can indulge their belief that they can hector or chastise other people. I have already been offended by some of the religious and moral views I have seen propounded here, but because I do not think this list should be cluttered with such discussions I have abstained from expressing my offence. If the policy of the list remains that such off-topic discussions are permitted, then I will not be so restrained in future, and the noise level on the list will increase. Furthermore, I shall feel free to spontaneously express my moral and political views to the list, and no doubt others will then take offence. I suspect discussions of cheese and other comestibles may be unlikely to cause much offence. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
you are right. Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Politics, religion and cheese are all off topic. Off topic posts should be marked with the header OT, and kept to a minimum.I would like to suggest that the policy of the list should be that off-topicpostspushing religious, moral or political views are banned. Theyhave no place on a specialized list such as this one, can be offensive to thosewho do not share these views, and only increase the noise on the list. Thereare plenty of other places on the internet where people can indulge their beliefthat they can hector or chastise other people.I have already been offended by some of the religious and moral views I haveseen propounded here, but because I do not think this list should be clutteredwith such discussions I have abstained from expressing my offence.If the policy of the list remains that such off-topic discussion! s arepermitted, then I will not be so restrained in future, and the noise level onthe list will increase. Furthermore, I shall feel free to spontaneously expressmy moral and political views to the list, and no doubt others will then takeoffence.I suspect discussions of cheese and other comestibles may be unlikely to causemuch offence.Bernard___use-revolution mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikhansen.orgDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:27 PM, erik hansen wrote: you are right. And YOU are posting in HTML. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, LTD www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
Politics, religion and cheese are all off topic. Off topic posts should be marked with the header OT, and kept to a minimum. I agree with this statement. I would like to suggest that the policy of the list should be that off-topic posts pushing religious, moral or political views are banned. I do NOT agree with this. See above... moderation and minimums should be sufficient. ... because I do not think this list should be cluttered with such discussions I have abstained from expressing my offence. Until now huh? You know what I find offensive? People who are offended by EVERYTHING. How about that Revolution program? Pretty good stuff huh? ;-D Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re[7]: groups and background
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 02:06 PM, Dar Scott wrote: so there IS a RunRev specific reason to use the the background concept. I think the double the typo is significant. I think we run into trouble in thinking of the background concept. There seems to be two, even though both seem to have a basis in history. There is background in the sense of backgroundBehaviour and background in the sense of thinking of groups belonging to the stack. The backgroundbehaviour path modification, automatic placement and backgroundNames() are related to the first concept. The rest of the uses of the word background seem to be related to the second, though there may be a few for the first concept that I missed. For example I just learned that openBackground is sent only for groups with backgroundBehavior set to true, so it belongs with the first concept of background. I wonder if there are more. Dar Scott Hast thou not poured me out and curdled me like cheese? -- Job Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese. -- G. K. Chesterton We have seen thee, queen of cheese, Lying quietly at your ease, Gently fanned by evening breeze Thy fair form no flies dare seize. -- James McIntyre Society... We meet at meals three times a day, and give each other a new taste of that old musty cheese that we are. -- Henry David Thoreau Many's the long night that I've dreamed of cheese--toasted, mostly. -- Robert Louis Stevenson Politics, religion and cheese are all off topic. -- Heather Williams ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List etiquette and general helpful hints
I have already been offended by some of the religious and moral views I have seen propounded here, but because I do not think this list should be cluttered with such discussions I have abstained from expressing my offence. Hi Bernard, I commend you for following what I believe is the surest method of keeping unwanted posts to a minimum: do not respond. When I attended my first Little League game, I came with the previous experience of participation in a summer softball league, where razzing was quite commonplace; so I spectated as I remembered it was done by the grown ups. It didn't take but an inning or to for me to realize I was the only one mouthing off, and that my behavior was obviously considered inappropriate in this particular setting. IMFO, if people (a) don't respond to posts of a nature or subject matter they don't want to see on the List and (b) take a conversation off list when only two or three members wish to continue it, the List will be self-regulating and Heather can get on with better things. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Any MacWorld Attendees On This List
Believe it or not I just paid $600 to upgrade to Director MX because Rev 2.0's release is later than announced and is still a question mark for me. I'm faced with the monumental task of updating 23 of my current programs by October so they run under Mac OS X. I'm just wondering if anyone on this list is attending MacWorld Expo in SF this week. If so, did Macromedia show up? They were conspicuously absent from last summer's expo in NYC. BTW, I think there's no better way to invite a flood of off topic and perhaps offensive postings than by reminding people of list etiquette. That's my 2 pence and I'll leave it at that. I wonder what kind of cheese Jesus likes? Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications www.hsj.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re OT Posts
Hi all, I agree with Bernard about banning religious, moral, or political views. Lets get back to business... OK? Regards, Steve Stephen R. Messimer Messimer Computing, Inc 208 1st Ave South Escanaba, MI 49829 www.messimercomputing.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any MacWorld Attendees On This List
Bill Lynn wrote: Believe it or not I just paid $600 to upgrade to Director MX because Rev 2.0's release is later than announced and is still a question mark for me. I'm faced with the monumental task of updating 23 of my current programs by October so they run under Mac OS X. I'm just wondering if anyone on this list is attending MacWorld Expo in SF this week. If so, did Macromedia show up? They were conspicuously absent from last summer's expo in NYC. BTW, I think there's no better way to invite a flood of off topic and perhaps offensive postings than by reminding people of list etiquette. That's my 2 pence and I'll leave it at that. I wonder what kind of cheese Jesus likes? Camembert. What specific features in Rev 2.0 would have made the difference for your project's needs? With the base cost of Director plus the cost of rewriting everything from scratch, such a migration is an expensive option. MacWorldExpo.com lists Macromedia as being at booth #1035. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Play video without QuickTime?
Thanks for the info Scott, I'll try to uninstall WMP (If it will let me) and I'll try it out. I'll report back to the list what happens. Thanks again. -- David Egbert On 1/9/03 12:00 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to play video with RunRev on Windows without QuickTime installed? Is it possible to play .avi files on windows without Windows Media? Without QuickTime installed, Rev is supposed to use whatever multimedia playback mechanism is on the user's machine. Not sure if one can experience multimedia playback at all *without* Windows Media (Player) software but you'd probably have to get a system with this setup and test on it. BTW, to *prevent* use of QuickTime, you set the dontUseQT to true. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: eSellerate external
At 21:58 -0800 1/9/03, Richard Gaskin wrote: curry wrote: Having Rev hook up with Kagi would be excellent too. Could it be scripted? I like this idea! This sounds very interesting - especially with Kee being on this list. I suppose that part of having Kagi built-in to a Rev app would be the functionality of the Register app - this would mean printing bar codes unless Kagi has plans on dropping bar code use in the near future. Any comments on what is needed Kee? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: eSellerate external
I don't know anything about how Kagi operates internally, but I wrote a Rev app to generate Code 128 barcodes. You need the correct font in your system, but my app works out the ASCII characters needed for the font to display correctly. Cheers, Sarah On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 05:12 pm, sims wrote: At 21:58 -0800 1/9/03, Richard Gaskin wrote: curry wrote: Having Rev hook up with Kagi would be excellent too. Could it be scripted? I like this idea! This sounds very interesting - especially with Kee being on this list. I suppose that part of having Kagi built-in to a Rev app would be the functionality of the Register app - this would mean printing bar codes unless Kagi has plans on dropping bar code use in the near future. Any comments on what is needed Kee? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PEF and machO was Internationalization
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:12 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 11:54 AM -0800 1/8/03, manuel companys wrote: Mach-O looks more ... à la Unix to me. Am I right? I'm actually not sure of its history. But I think the Mach-O format may have started out as a NeXT thing. (Anyone know?) Yes that's right. Mach-O is the basis of the entire Mac OS X system. There a lot of bridges available for calling between other different code formats like Classic apps (CFM/PEF), Carbon/Cocoa, and Java. For the runrev developers I imagine it opens up more possibilities for doing stuff with plugins, bundles, frameworks on OS X. The advantage for us end users is that we will be able to write externals using Apple's free developer tools, and not have to use Codewarrior. Hurrah! Speaking of externals, has anyone written an external for the eSellerate engine? check out eSellerate.net. They have a nice C API which I've used. Currently they have included in their SDK the following Mac: *REALBasic*, Codewarrior; Win: C++ lib, ActiveX control. eSellerate unofficially supports Apple Project Builder (gcc) and I've used the C API on Mac OS, in an Objective-C/Cocoa app. I'm sure it would be possible to write a Revolution external out of the SDK. However, eSellerate is Mac and Win only, no Unix platforms. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF vs HTML
David Vaughan writes: On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 21:51 Australia/Sydney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip . Just one example: create a document in Word and use full paragraph justification. Save the file as RTF. Now launch your favorite RTF editor (other than Word), open the RTF file created in Word, and lunch is on me if your full justified paragraphs are still full justified. Miscdas, in which city is the booking please, or will you come to Oz for lunch :-) ? David, Tel Aviv.(OK, so I can also make it Netanya or Rehovot, but NO WAY Jerusalem.) I stated only luch; transportation is on you... miscdas regards David ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
