Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Andre Garzia wrote: jbv, I think you're being kinda naive, first there's no linux company making big bucks by distributing free linux, if you're talking about Red Hat and friends, they are selling premium support at a very company-wise rate, and thats how they make money. They are selling

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Hershel Fisch wrote: On 11/3/06 12:31 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis wrote: Hershel Fisch wrote: And when I bought my copy in the beginning and paid for support and didn't any answers only after resending my questions several times and waiting a week or two and a few times

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Luis wrote: Hershel Fisch wrote: I've heard the same excuse many times 'it's not us'... Whilst it is possible, the fact that you maintained communications, albeit delayed (whilst, I assume, you made no changes regarding black lists) indicates that this issue was not related to your lack

Go Next Card Sluggish in2.7.4?

2006-11-07 Thread Sivakatirswami
I have a little dBase in a stack with about 900 cards, each card has 40 fields. one field in the cards has a fair bit of text data. Still stack file size on disk is only 5.8 megs Not really that big. I've got plenty of RAM and plenty disk space. I've put together stacks that run to 15 megabytes

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Marielle Lange
Hi Luis, No really, if it needed this level of forum debate, they had not been listening before. We had that discussion 6 months ago, making many of the points you make in this email. Discussing them at full length. Over the last 6 months, various changes have taken place, with among

Position of tabs in tabbed button

2006-11-07 Thread Martin Blackman
List users, Is there any way one can change the 'alignment' of tabs in a tabbed button ? By default they are at the left, I'd like to try them on the right hand side to make a GUI of mine more compact. regards Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Hiya, Marielle Lange wrote: Hi Luis, No really, if it needed this level of forum debate, they had not been listening before. We had that discussion 6 months ago, making many of the points you make in this email. Discussing them at full length. Over the last 6 months, various changes have

HTTPProxy

2006-11-07 Thread Henk van der Velden
Good day, One of my applications downloads some stuff from a website. It all works OK, except that some of the users are behind a corporate firewall, and they can't connect to the website. I've studied the mail archives and found some stuff about setting HTTPProxy manually to the IP of

Re: HTTPProxy

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Schonewille
Goeiemiddag Henk, In your example, you use port 8080 but in your log I see port 80. Which one is correct? Maybe you need to include a user name and password. Although I don't expect this to be the case, it is possible that the firewall or the proxy checks for the browser name, which is

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser(was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread jbv
Marielle Lange a *crit : Then I want to be paid for Marketing. :) Believe it or not but they seem interested in doing just that: Become a Revolution Community Partner http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=343highlight= $$$. We have a compensation model based on sales that

Re: HTTPProxy

2006-11-07 Thread Dave Cragg
On 7 Nov 2006, at 11:41, Mark Schonewille wrote: Goeiemiddag Henk, In your example, you use port 8080 but in your log I see port 80. Which one is correct? Maybe you need to include a user name and password. If it should be 8080, I'd check the httpProxy setting again. Make sure you

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Marielle Lange
And that Forum... That's got to be the sadest Forum I've ever seen. Any newbie hitting that would surely be put off. [...] Didn't see that one. And I can't, not a member of the forum... Uh? What is your first comment based on if you never had a chance to see these forums? Based on what

Re: Go Next Card Sluggish in2.7.4?

2006-11-07 Thread Bill Marriott
Siv'swami, I wonder if you could quantify the difference for us... something like put the list of numbers 1 to the number of cards into cardList shuffle up cardList put the ticks into startTime repeat for each line thatCard in cardList go card thatCard end repeat put the ticks into endTime put

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Marielle Lange wrote: And that Forum... That's got to be the sadest Forum I've ever seen. Any newbie hitting that would surely be put off. [...] Didn't see that one. And I can't, not a member of the forum... Uh? What is your first comment based on if you never had a chance to see these

Rev_rant

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Hiya, I was going to post this in a reply, but thought it might be better on its own. Rev_rant If I perceive a failing in an environment, I will state it, whether or not I decide to utilise that environment in my projects. There will come a point, if that environment has not evolved into

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Marielle Lange
The forum frontend (http://forums.runrev.com/) is available for any passerby to see, and it is a very quiet place... Hence the 'sadest Forum I've seen' comment. Many have used these forums to make the same comments :-). I'm evaluating several development options, some of which track

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re:RevolutionWebBrowserPlugin)

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
Marielle Lange wrote: The forum frontend (http://forums.runrev.com/) is available for any passerby to see, and it is a very quiet place... Hence the 'sadest Forum I've seen' comment. Many have used these forums to make the same comments :-). Now now, that would rally put newbies off! I'm

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Luis wrote: To clarify, just in case, the lower portion of my response was addressed to RunRev. And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming with the facts. Just a thought. You know, I resent this on a

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Smith
I will happily attest that Jacque has never let me down. I haven't had all that many occasions to email support, but whenever I have needed to, the response has been both prompt and helpful. I don't doubt that things sometimes go awry, but I've generally fared a lot better with RunRev

Re: More on php and Rev cgi

2006-11-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi Jacque, If you can send me both the php and cgi components of the stuff to get up together, il will try to do them good friends ;-) That's a lovely idiom -- and you are kind as always. But we've had success! It now works. The problem was simple, as it turns out. The

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Luis wrote in response to Jacque: And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming with the facts. Just a thought. Must be Tuesday, yup. Why must it be Tuesday? Is that the day you set aside to be rude?

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Luis
J. Landman Gay wrote: Luis wrote: To clarify, just in case, the lower portion of my response was addressed to RunRev. And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming with the facts. Just a thought. You

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
Luis, Yes, it is obvious you are new here, otherwise you would already know who Jacque is and exactly how MUCH she has given to this community. Besides the best tech support responses, she has also given freely of her time helping on numerous occasions, including organizing, preparing and

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread FlexibleLearning
And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming with the facts. Luis, Your attitude is out of order. You say you have not been a list member so perhaps you have list-manners to learn. Meanwhile,

Re: More on php and Rev cgi

2006-11-07 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello Jacqueline, Arrays are very usefull/powerfull and not too difficult to investigate under PHP. PHP = 4.3 and PHP 5 are both working friendly with Rev. Have Fun ;-) Kind Regards, Pierre Le 7 nov. 06 à 18:04, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi Jacque, If you can

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Judy Perry
Wow. When someone patiently explains to you how the system works, and explains that she is indeed part of that system, and you continue to offer insults... How is that supposed to be helpful? Jacque's one of the most tireless, patient, and giving members of the x-talk community, a community it

Newbie information and list attitude

2006-11-07 Thread Heather Nagey
Dear List Members, It has been drawn to my attention that we have some new list members who perhaps don't know as much about this community as they should. Let me rectify that. This is a warm, helpful, giving community, and one of Revolution's greatest assets. Everyone on this list gives

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread SimPLsol
Luis, There are very few people who have been as critical of Rev, the company, and Rev, the product, as I have been over the past half decade. I'd like to believe all of that criticism has been, at best, constructive or, at least, civil. Your criticism is neither. Jacque's efforts to the cause

Re: Newbie information and list attitude

2006-11-07 Thread Andre Garzia
Heather, you and the RevGurus out there make my life much more fun and easier, thanks for your hard work. if I get rich one day, I'll issue RevAwards or something... Cheers andre On Nov 7, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: Dear List Members, It has been drawn to my attention that

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Marielle Lange
Luis wrote in response to Jacque: And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming with the facts. Just a thought. The above is a weak and wordy way of calling Jacque a liar. Can you please stop this!? My

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Andre Garzia
If I was not in Malta, drinking wine and making toasts to Richard and the others who could not be here, I'd be very upset by luis emails. He is a begginer here, okay, so before shouting, he should learn. I will not touch the topic of him attacking Jacque or not, Jacque is the most amazing

Re: Newbie information and list attitude

2006-11-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Heather Nagey wrote: It's easy to misinterpret an email. I probably did that. Fortunately I'm already over it. Luis, no hard feelings and I apologize if I misread you. You say you intended no offense and I will take that at face value. What I really hope didn't happen is that you get

Re: Newbie information and list attitude

2006-11-07 Thread Phil Davis
Andre Garzia wrote: Heather, you and the RevGurus out there make my life much more fun and easier, thanks for your hard work. if I get rich one day, I'll issue RevAwards or something... Andre - When my ship comes in, would you mind if I added to the RevAwards pot too? It would be

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: If Luis sent and email couple times and got no response, I don't think that's the problem. In all cases but one, he received a reply on the same day. The one time it took longer, he received a reply in two days. I believe he was responding to someone else who said they

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
Wow, so it appears Luis is taking time to admonish Rev Support based on another person's experience, even though his own experience has been documented as more than reasonable (by Rev's standards). I certainly do not intone Luis to be the most decadent newbie, only perhaps an ill-informed one.

error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread Reinhold Venzl-Schubert
Hi! I tried to save a stack as a standalone application. But at the end I got the message: There was an error while saving the standalone application That as all, no more information! What can I do to find out the error? Is there any help? Thanks Reinhold Venzl-Schubert

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Marielle Lange
I certainly do not intone Luis to be the most decadent newbie, only perhaps an ill-informed one. Exact, Chipp, your answer didn't include any attack against Luis... and I thank you for that. But the guy had apologized (let's not discuss whether this was a convincing one or not)... and

Re: error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread Andre Garzia
Reinhold, does your standalone uses any non-standard place? where are you trying to save it? maybe you don't have write permission to that folder. Are you on a mac or windows? Andre On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Reinhold Venzl-Schubert wrote: Hi! I tried to save a stack as a standalone

Re: error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Reinhold, I'd start with making sure that all necessary files are available, including icons and other files. Also make sure that your stacks have the extension .rev. Make sure that you have write permission for the destination folder, as Andre has pointed out. Have you tried quitting

Great things about Rev

2006-11-07 Thread Bernard Devlin
I don't know what is the cause of so much negativity on the list. Sometimes those things just spiral by accident. Anyway, I just want to point out how things look to me - a long time lurker, and sometime user of Revolution. I follow the list daily, but rarely have the time to contribute

Re: error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Reinhold Venzl-Schubert wrote: Hi! I tried to save a stack as a standalone application. But at the end I got the message: There was an error while saving the standalone application That as all, no more information! What can I do to find out the error? Here are some common reasons for the

Re: Great things about Rev

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
Nicely worded post Bernard. Sometimes it's easier to criticize than recognize. Good job. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-07 Thread Timothy Miller
J. Landman Gay wrote: Ask anyone here what I have contributed to this community and then tell me I don't care. In my experience, Jacque has been generous with her time and expertise, patient, and good natured. Needless to say, she's got plenty of ability, too. Tim

Re: Rev_rant

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm really not sure what the purpose of your publicized issue is, unless you're just trolling for negative responses. I'd have assumed you have received enough of them by now. AFAIK, and I've been active with RR for many, many years, there are no fewer or greater 'delayed bug fixes' than there

Re: Go Next Card Sluggish in2.7.4?

2006-11-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
I have a little dBase in a stack with about 900 cards, each card has 40 fields. one field in the cards has a fair bit of text data. Still stack file size on disk is only 5.8 megs Not really that big. I've got plenty of RAM and plenty disk space. I've put together stacks that run to 15 megabytes

error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread Reinhold Venzl-Schubert
Hi! I tried to save a stack as a standalone application. But at the end I got the message: There was an error while saving the standalone application That as all, no more information! What can I do to find out the error? Is there any help? Sorry! I selected MacOS X and WIndows at the same

Re: Go Next Card Sluggish in2.7.4?

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
Sivakatirswami, You might try pre-caching the go next. I typically go to each card on startup (screen locked) to make sure they are all cached. Of course with a very big stack it's not possible, but might be wise to try and think of some sort of intelligent pre-cache. -Chipp

Re: error while saving the standalone application

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Reinhold, FYI, selecting Mac OS X and Windows at the same time should not be the reason for the error reported by the standalone builder. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within

Re: Rev_rant

2006-11-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/7/06 9:42 AM, Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I perceive a failing in an environment, I will state it, whether or not I decide to utilise that environment in my projects. Understood. But I'd only suggest three things here: (1) that your comments are framed in a constructive way, and (2)

Re: Position of tabs in tabbed button

2006-11-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/7/06 4:39 AM, Martin Blackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List users, Is there any way one can change the 'alignment' of tabs in a tabbed button ? By default they are at the left, I'd like to try them on the right hand side to make a GUI of mine more compact. Not that I'm aware of...

Re: Position of tabs in tabbed button

2006-11-07 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 11/7/06 4:39 AM, Martin Blackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List users, Is there any way one can change the 'alignment' of tabs in a tabbed button ? By default they are at the left, I'd like to try them on the right hand side to make a GUI of mine more compact. Not that I'm aware of...

Re: Position of tabs in tabbed button

2006-11-07 Thread Chipp Walters
You can always roll your own as well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev_rant

2006-11-07 Thread Kay C Lan
On 11/7/06, Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely a Tuesday. No, it's definitely a Wednesday, and it was Wednesday 10 hours ago when you sent your email:-) We all have a different experience. I think Ken's point is very good, we wouldn't want anyone else joining Richmond as a recipient

how to place a dialog window

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Swindell
What is the correct syntax to tell Rev where to place a dialog window? Example: Ask What's your name? (at the location of this wd) Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: how to place a dialog window

2006-11-07 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Mark, Personally I'm not aware that you can set the screen position of a standard Rev dialog, though I'm willing to be corrected. I often use a substack as a dialog. That way I have complete control over it - in theory :o) Then in its stack script I put: on preOpenStack set the loc