RE: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Lynn Fredricks
With all due respect to your attempt to report, I'm wondering how much 2.9 beta bugs should be discussed on the USE-REV list rather than the more closed IMPROVE REV list, or reports to Quality control. I'd hate to see prospective new Rev users get turned off by comments here. And

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Ian Wood
On 20 Feb 2008, at 08:10, Lynn Fredricks wrote: The Improve List is where all things beta live How about those of us that have Studio licences instead of Enterprise and are therefore not on the Improve List? ;-) Ian ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
FYEO As far a I know, the public beta can be pubicly discussed on this mail list (the use list). The details of 2.9 are not supposed to be limited to the improve list, since everybody can sign up for beta testing without signing an NDA. Since bugs are stored in a public database,

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread Dave Cragg
On 20 Feb 2008, at 01:54, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think we can relax as long as we don't script anything stupid. Here are a couple of quotes from Scott Raney about it: Hi Jacque It wasn't the script content I was concerned about. Scripting problems exist wherever the engine is. My

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread viktoras didziulis
Just intended to ask the same question... E.g. me is interested in Revolution to be improved as much as possible. So many of us do this by participating in beta program, hunting those nasty bugs, reporting them, etc... And as a reward and motivation participation in the Improve list is limited

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Malte Brill
May I humbly disagree Lynn? there is a forum dedicated to the beta, which I believe is public. http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=34sid=baa2408f16875cdaf781cc8b42ff0e01 (Although I haven´t seen Bill around there much recently) So at least there is one place that is viewable by

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Miller
Two questions about both of these cgi hosting options: 1. how do you generate an email from these accounts? With libsmtp253 or something else? 2. can you use the put x into ftp:url z syntax or some other language to place data from the cgi-bin into a remote location on another server?

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richard, The easiest way to send mail is probably http://article.gmane.org/ gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/106139/match=mail+cgi It may depend on server configuration, but it should be possible to do FTP transfers from one web server to another, provided that the FTP library is

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread viktoras didziulis
possibility of the direct access to revolution engine (or any other file in cgi-bin) can be completely eliminated by putting .htaccess file with the following content into the cgi-bin directory: RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^(.*)(rev|revolution)(.*) http://localhost/cgi-bin/ [nc] Now everyone

Re: verboseLog.txt

2008-02-20 Thread Thierry
Hi Mark , You can turn this off with a global or property... don't remember by heart, but you can also download Verbose Logging Plugin from Revonline, user name Mark. This allows you to turn it on and off. So, a quick comment on what I've found... the rev command is: revVerboseDebug

Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Len Morgan
I'm wondering what is the recommended way of handling a lot of dialog boxes in applications. There are a couple of way of handling this that I've thought of but I don't know what would be considered best: 1) A separate stack for each dialog. Pros: Sizing, function (information only,

Re: Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Ian Wood
What kind of dialog boxes do you needing to show? My personal take is that dialog boxes should be kept as simple as possible, and therefore the built-in answer and ask commands cover about 90% of my needs plus a small number of separate stacks for the remaining more complex ones. Ian

Re: Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Len, First I have to say that I try to minimize dialogs use. In many cases, I use a group on the current card but with a darker background because, as a user, I hate to have hundreds windows, all different, that show up and have to be closed as you can see them in MS Word for instance.

Re: Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 20/02/08 at 07:58 -0600 Len Morgan apparently wrote: I'm wondering what is the recommended way of handling a lot of dialog boxes in applications. There are a couple of way of handling this that I've thought of but I don't know what would be considered best: There is no single best

RE: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Lynn Fredricks
May I humbly disagree Lynn? I thought I heard chest smacking and leaf throwing there Malte ;-) there is a forum dedicated to the beta, which I believe is public. http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=34sid=baa240 8f16875cdaf781cc8b42ff0e01 (Although I haven´t seen Bill

Re: Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Gabel
Len and Robert: Another solution is to designate one card in your stack as the dialog card, title it Information, and place a field, a Cancel button, and an OK button on it. Then place the dialog information into the field by script as shown below. This method is very flexible and

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dave Cragg wrote: My concern was that if the engine is in the cgi-bin folder, you can attempt to call the engine directly. For example, if the engine is named rev, then what happens when you request the url http://some.server.com/cgi-bin/rev; I get an internal server error and nothing

Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Klaus: no MP3s at your site? ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to upload them again, but I've got some at http://cdbaby.com/cd/alephnull if anyone

Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Klaus: no MP3s at your site? ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to upload them again, but I've got some at http://cdbaby.com/cd/alephnull if anyone cares... -- Mark Wieder

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Miller
Hi Mark, Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems that cgiemail is designed to work when generated from an html input form. What I need to do is send an email directly to a recipient right from my Rev cgi program (where the email address is coming out of a database...not from a form).

Re: Dialog Stack Design Questions

2008-02-20 Thread Len Morgan
Thanks to everyone for their responses. It appears that: 1) There are MANY ways to handle dialog boxes (I knew that before) 2) The is NO best way to do it. I guess Rev's blessing of flexibility can also be a curse! :-) len ___ use-revolution

Dreamhost vs Jaguar PC

2008-02-20 Thread Stephen Barncard
FYI. I've been with Dreamhost for over 5 years and THAT never happened there. ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: Dreamhost vs Jaguar PC

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Stephen Barncard wrote: FYI. I've been with Dreamhost for over 5 years and THAT never happened there. ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to I've been with JaguarPC (and its

Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi all, I'm still trying to get a cgi working at JaguarPC. I've created a folder mycgi and put the revolution engine in it, etc. I've successfully created a 'helloworld.cgi' which works. Next I used Jacque's echo.mt scriptchanged it to echo.cgi and it works fine. Then, I created a small

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
As Chris tells me... Now you get to answer your own question. Which is simply the 2.6.6 engine doesn't open a 2.8.1 stackDUH So, now off to download the 2.9 beta engine and try that one... ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: Hi all, I'm still trying to get a cgi working at JaguarPC. I've created a folder mycgi and put the revolution engine in it, etc. I've successfully created a 'helloworld.cgi' which works. Next I used Jacque's echo.mt scriptchanged it to echo.cgi and it works fine.

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: While part of the script rund, the stack never opens using my Jaguar account. Just in case, here's a few more tips about using stacks with CGI scripts: A brief list of things to keep in mind when using stacks with CGIs: * Stacks must be put in use to be

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Are you sure? http://bjoernke.com/runrev/cgi.php On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:49 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't open files in a cgi script (opening a stack requires the UI, which doesn't exist in the cgi engine.) You have to start using stack instead. Change the open

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Jacque (or anyone else), I've installed the latest best 2.9 Linux revolution and now the helloworld.cgi doesn't even work. Are you (or anyone) using the 2.9 latest beta successfully, and if not, can you point me to a version which does actually work, which also works with the lastest stack file

Re: [ANN] libS3

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Sorry, that url is: http://maspub.s3.amazonaws.com/libS3.zip for the thousands clamouring to download it :) Best, Mark On 19 Feb 2008, at 13:35, Mark Smith wrote: I've made a library for working with the amazon s3 storage service. This is working well on my OS X machine, but is not much

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: Are you sure? http://bjoernke.com/runrev/cgi.php I just did a quick test on my local server, and open fails there. Start using works. When I use open I do not get an error, but the script hangs. Granted, this is using an old copy of the engine, the last Darwin engine

Re: Dreamhost vs Jaguar PC

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- I've been with JaguarPC (and its predecessors) for over 8 years and it's never happened to me either. Mark, you should write to support and find out what happened. It's definitely not normal. rotfl... I did get that part figured out. I'm not too worried since I've got all the files

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: Are you sure? http://bjoernke.com/runrev/cgi.php Well, I used to be. :) Maybe something's changed. Or maybe go still doesn't work but open does... Haven't tried it for a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software |

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Yeah, I guess I'll have to work my CGI's in 2.6.1.bummer as I hate working in 2 diff IDE's. This legacy format thing really sucks especially since there's no engine support for the new format. I tried uploading and using the file called Standalone (renaming it 'revolution') in the Linux

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hershel Fisch wrote: Yes, I'm sorry about that I do understand but actualy now found out that there is another list to post on And by the way, J, didn't you put yours as well? Yes, but on second thought I probably shouldn't have. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: Yeah, I guess I'll have to work my CGI's in 2.6.1.bummer as I hate working in 2 diff IDE's. This legacy format thing really sucks especially since there's no engine support for the new format. I tried uploading and using the file called Standalone (renaming it

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Anyone here every use a standalone as a CGI on Linux? I've been unable to, but I'd be interested in hearing success stories. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Hershel Fisch
On 2/20/08 12:53 AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Barncard wrote: With all due respect to your attempt to report, I'm wondering how much 2.9 beta bugs should be discussed on the USE-REV list rather than the more closed IMPROVE REV list, or reports to Quality control. I'd

Re: Dreamhost vs Jaguar PC

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- I've been with JaguarPC (and its predecessors) for over 8 years and it's never happened to me either. Mark, you should write to support and find out what happened. It's definitely not normal. rotfl... I did get that part figured out. Did you find out what went

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Well, I got the cgi up and running. Open stack worked fine. Supposedly you need to call close stack though I haven't tested it. Another note of interest... my comments are typically: -- THIS IS A COMMENT...2 DASHES FOLLOWED BY A GREATER THAN SIGN but they just hang the cgi for some reason

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chris Sheffield
Chipp, It's been my experience that you have to perform a Save As on the stack, specifying to save in Legacy format, before that preference truly kicks in. I've never been able to simply open a legacy stack in 2.8.1 and have it stay that way unless I do a Save As first. Kind of strange,

Re: Dreamhost vs Jaguar PC

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Did you find out what went wrong? No - I've been out of town for a week and I'm just starting to catch up on things. I've got backups of everything, so one of these days I'll just start a mass upload and everything will be as it was. I'm sure tech support will have a good excuse for

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
OK, Figured out the problem with the preserve stack format, and my own Save Legacy format plugin. You used to be able to set the stackFileVersion and it would stay set. Now the RevSave version overides it as it's looking for a RevGeneral custom prop in working with Preserve stack file version on

Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Is there an option to purchase a download rather than wait for a physical CD? Not that I'm aware of. I don't think cdbaby has that capability, but then I've never really followed up on it to find out. PS: Really nice cover art. Gorgeous. Yes, thanks. I'm quite pleased with the

Re: Can we build console apps under linux?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- a quick question, can we build console based apps in Linux? I mean, applications that run without X11. I'm thinking about daemons and compiled cgis. Indeed you can. Specify -ui as part of the launching commandline and write your output to stdout. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Well, having only 2.9 dp-3 available at present, just one question about b4: Does it do multiple desktops properly on Linux yet? Or is it time to give up, accept that the HIGs were right all along, all we ever needed was one, just a bigger one, and buy a 30 inch monitor? Peter

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread Hershel Fisch
On 2/20/08 4:59 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hershel Fisch wrote: Yes, I'm sorry about that I do understand but actualy now found out that there is another list to post on And by the way, J, didn't you put yours as well? Yes, but on second thought I probably shouldn't

Re-2: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread runrev260805
Hi, maybe someone can help. I want to write a XML file, which should be opened in MS Excel 2003. I have 2 xml-files, each contains the same data, if opened in Ultraedit editor under Windows. The first one was an Excelfile, which i exported to XML with Excel. This file can be reopened in

Problem with characters/special characters in XML

2008-02-20 Thread runrev260805
Hi, unfortunately i sent the message below with a wrong subject. Please excuse. So here´s my problem, maybe someone can help. I want to write a XML file, which should be opened in MS Excel 2003. I have 2 xml-files, each contains the same data, if opened in Ultraedit editor under Windows.

Re: Problem with characters/special characters in XML

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Matthias, Have you tried converting the file to UTF8? Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Convert colours between different colour spaces with Color Converter. Download at

Re-2: Problem with characters/special characters in XML

2008-02-20 Thread runrev260805
Hi Mark, i don´t know how to do that. Could you give me an example? Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Problem with characters/special characters in XML (21-Feb-2008 1:09) From:Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Matthias,

Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Is there an easy way to do this in script? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Luis
Hiya, Well, on OS X there's an Automator action that can extract the text from a PDF, so I'd assume it's AppleScriptable. Don't know on the Windows side of things. Cheers, Luis. Richard Gaskin wrote: Is there an easy way to do this in script?

DirectoryWalk a Remote Server?

2008-02-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Hello List: Has anyone created a routine to conduct a recursive directory listing of a remote server? I don't believe the old directoryWalk script in the archives can be used as it relies on setting the directory property. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media,

Re: upgrade pricing

2008-02-20 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Revolution, v2.8.1, and I'm getting the emails about a 2.9 upgrade. The upgrade price seems to be £149, which seems a lot for a 0.1 version increase, especially so soon after buying the product. Am I

Re: DirectoryWalk a Remote Server?

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Hey Scott, This is Mac only. Don't know if this will helpbut it does demonstrate manually walking through directories (I think) on a Unix based machine (MacOSX). I don't have my Mac w/me, but you may be able to cobble something together based upon some of the code here: altFileMgr

Re: DirectoryWalk a Remote Server?

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
You can access the stack in msg: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/revAltFileMgr.rev; on second look, it appears to use the defaultfolder...sorry. But the idea is do a directory listing via shell, which, IMO, should work. ___ use-revolution

Re: DirectoryWalk a Remote Server?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Scott, this function may be helpful. I've not tried it on a remote server... function getDWShell pFolder if the platform is Win32 then set the hideconsolewindows to true replace / with \ in pFolder put shell(dir /s/b/a:-d-h q(pFolder)) into tFiles replace \ with / in tFiles

Re: Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Luis wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Is there an easy way to do this in script? Well, on OS X there's an Automator action that can extract the text from a PDF, so I'd assume it's AppleScriptable. Don't know on the Windows side of things. Thank you, Luis. This is just a one-off, so Automator

Re: Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Terry Judd
On 21/2/08 2:02 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Is there an easy way to do this in script? Well, on OS X there's an Automator action that can extract the text from a PDF, so I'd assume it's AppleScriptable. Don't know on the Windows side

Re: 2.9 b4

2008-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hershel Fisch wrote: On 2/20/08 4:59 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hershel Fisch wrote: Yes, I'm sorry about that I do understand but actualy now found out that there is another list to post on And by the way, J, didn't you put yours as well? Yes, but on second thought I

Re: Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Thomas McGrath III
In Automator 2.0.1(156) there is a whole section for PDFs. The one in question is Extract PDF Text I am using 10.5.2 Which makes me ask if it is possible to create an automator in 10.5 and use it in 10.4 ??? I never tried this before. Tell me what you want and maybe we can try it. Tom

Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..

2008-02-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Spent some time with Andre this evening, and he sent me the 2.9 dp3 Linux engine, which also didn't work. Then he looked at the top of my CGI script and saw this: #!revolution and he changed it to this: #!revolution -ui and everything worked. Evidently the -ui switch means run without graphics

Re: Extracting text from PDF

2008-02-20 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to do this in script? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Hi Richard et al, Extracting text from a PDF file is possible, and can indeed be done via scripting, though not for all files until you've

Re: RevCGI Hosts?

2008-02-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard, you can use RocketsSendmail library from the RevOnRockets package to send email, you'll probably need to change the path to the sendmail application in there, but after that you should be able to send emails in one line of code. Andre On 2/20/08, Richard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shakobox/PlayCommand and Rev 2.9

2008-02-20 Thread René Micout
Hello, Is PlayCommand (Shakobox) run with Rev 2.9 ? Thank you René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: