How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, I am still without success building the Mac standalone of my Rev 3.0+Valentina4Rev3 app on my Win XP machine. The standalone builder just doesn't takes the Valentina bundles into the standalone folder. What I have done so far is: 1. Setup everything of valentina how the docs say. And

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 9:45 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am still without success building the Mac standalone of my Rev 3.0+Valentina4Rev3 app on my Win XP machine. The standalone builder just doesn't takes the Valentina bundles into the standalone folder. What I have done

Re-2: alternatelanguages ... persistent objects from createObject

2008-10-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Krey, the reason for my desire to reuse open win COM objects aims to use many other COM Objects and winword/excel is just an example anyone knows. Of course in winword you can save the file and open it in a second session. But I have some scenarios where it would be fine to having let the

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Brian Yennie
Tiemo, Although I hope someone can help you make things work with the standalone builder, there is a manual way to set the externals for a stack which was used before the standalone builder did things for you. You can create an empty stack, set its externals property and load this stack

AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Noop, I tried to put the bundles and txts in ... /Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/ As well as in ... /Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals Without success One thing I noticed is that the bundle folder Database_Drivers has an underscore in the middle and the txt Database Drivers.txt has no underscore.

AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Brian, that sounds interesting. What I don't understand is, why do I need another stack to bind the externals and why can't I just set the external properties of my main stack and put the externals into the same directory as my main stack? Tiemo Although I hope someone can help you make

Re: script abbreviations

2008-10-10 Thread Bernard Devlin
Unlike Richard, I foolishly entered an enhancement request a month or two back, that the Dictionary have a column for 'version'. A few days later I had to close that request once I found that that feature had been there for years, but I hadn't known about it. I too found it by reading the User

AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Ruslan, actually I get this error message when building the standalone after having copied the valentina txts into the runtime dir: 1 MacOS, external not found: C:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/Tiemo.KESTNER/Eigene Dateien/My Revolution Studio/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals/v4rev.dll

Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Brian Yennie
You can =). The side effect of using a separate stack is that you can load or unload the externals on demand. But yes, you can set the externals property of any stack you want, and when it loads, the externals should come with it. Just be careful to set the paths relative to the standalone

Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 11:07 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruslan, actually I get this error message when building the standalone after having copied the valentina txts into the runtime dir: 1 MacOS, external not found: C:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/Tiemo.KESTNER/Eigene Dateien/My

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 2:23 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now

Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)

2008-10-10 Thread Malte Brill
Dear friends, to all of you who responded on and off list. THANK YOU! I really apperciate it. I am not yet in a condition where I can reply to email, but the situation will not bring me down for long. I will be taking a couple of days off. Going seasides next Friday. Too many things to pt

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 2:35 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now recognized and

Re: Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console

2008-10-10 Thread Mark MacKenzie
Hello Ken. I have been living with this situation for awhile and don't have the exact wording. While coding in the IDE (Windows XP Pro) and using 2.5* and then running the program within the IDE to check functionality of the error reporting of the finished program an error was encountered.

FW: [V4REV] How to build MAC application using REV WIN. Step by step.

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
-- Forwarded Message From: Kirill Pekarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Valentina Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:00:47 +0300 To: Valentina Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: problems building a rev-valentinastandalone on mac Hi, Tiemo. What I did step-by-step: 1)

difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, a runrev beginners question :-) I have a menu item with quit and the red cross in the title bar to close my app. Now I want to capture both messages with the same Do you really want to quit?. What I did is the following: On menupick -.- close gDefaultStack -...- on closeStack

Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 2:47 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. * Kirill have create Stanadlone app on WIN, * Send it to me, * I have run installer script on my MAC. * run

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 4:42 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? You should not. You run insaller.rev on Windows only.

AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) Tiemo And again aha, since on your MAC there is no Revolution, Then you cannot at all execute installer.rev -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ___

Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Wood
More hugs and sympathy from the UK, once you're reading emails again. Having had data loss problems in the past (not through theft, more through my own stupidity) I'm in the middle of sorting out three sets of HDs - the ones with the working files, a second set which get updated every day

Re: Is the Revolution Dictionary written using Revolution?

2008-10-10 Thread Scott Pepperdine
Thanks Phil! That was a huge help. It is now approaching 3 am and I have been browsing those stacks for hours. Learning a lot. However, one thing that I am interested in still escapes me. Does anyone know how the 'data view' list of topics is displayed with alternating lines being

AW: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now recognized and taken into the standalone, but the dbvalentina2 not yet, probably

AW: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ruslan Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? * Kirill have create Stanadlone app on WIN, * Send it to me, * I have run installer script on

Re: difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?

2008-10-10 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Tiemo, Have a look at the closeStackRequest message: on closeStackRequest answer Do you really want to quit? with No and Yes if it = Yes then pass closeStackRequest end closeStackRequest Le 10 oct. 08 à 15:38, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello, a runrev beginners question :-) I

Re: script abbreviations

2008-10-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Bernard, Thanks for the status update. I started reading the User Guide when I first signed up for Rev with 2.7. I quickly abandoned the effort because of the deficiencies you mentioned. Most of the things I was interested in just weren't included. In the few forays I've made into the

iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Peter Bower, M.D.
I've read through all the prior iPhone discussions in the archive. Is it true, really for certain, absolutely no way what-so-ever, don't even bother to think about it, to somehow run rev on an iPhone? Objective C is the least friendly obtuse head ache inducing programming I have ever

Moving a Folder to Recycle Bin in Windows XP

2008-10-10 Thread Philip Usher
Is it possible to use revMoveFolder to move a folder to the Recylcle Bin in Windows XP and what would the destination folder path be? thanks, Philip Usher ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?

2008-10-10 Thread Saults, J Scott
I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to generate sequences of simple stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A colleague who does infant research wants to use these stimuli in an experiment. She presents such sequences on a Mac as quicktime movies. I have modified the

AW: difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?

2008-10-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello Eric, yes that was also my first thought, but as the docs say (and how this one behaves) it is not called, if I send my own close stack from my own menu (not from the rev file menu) Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL

OS X Application icon corrupted by V3 standalone maker?

2008-10-10 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi folks, I've just started using Rev version 3 (with GLX2) to make standalones for OS X and Windows, and noticed that on OS X my custom application icon didn't appear. At first I thought it was the usual lazy Finder scenario where you had to zip and unzip the file or one of the other

A List Mom Post

2008-10-10 Thread Heather Nagey
Dear List Folks, Its been a while. I'm fresh come from sifting through the moderator held messages for this list, and I have a moment to share my thoughts with you. To avoid frustration when posting, you might want to save these pearls of wisdom. 1.) The list identifies you strictly and

creating a Mac download

2008-10-10 Thread Larry Watts
I created my app on the Windows platform and compiled for all 3 platforms. I then created a download page with the appropriate files that Rev generated. The pc file will download to my computer just fine. But when my daughter, who has a Mac, tried to download the Mac file, it wouldn't work

Re: How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Wood
Do a search for Trevor DeVore's excellent QuickTime external for Rev. Ian On 15 Sep 2008, at 16:58, Saults, J Scott wrote: I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to generate sequences of simple stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A colleague who does infant

Re: creating a Mac download

2008-10-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Larry, You can't do this. You need to make a zip or dmg file of the standalone. Making a zip file is easy on Windows (and Mac). You can copy the standalone to your daughter's computer. Put it inside a folder and give the folder the name of the standalone, without .app. Drop the folder

Re: How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?

2008-10-10 Thread Colin Holgate
If you have QuickTime Pro you can open up the first image of the sequence, and the rest of the sequence will import as a movie that you can then save. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Peter, no you can't run Revolution applications on an iPhone. You can however, build web applications that are tailored to the iPhone Mobile Safari thing. Objective-C is not a bad thing, it's way better than C/C++ (IMHO) Cheers andre On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Peter Bower, M.D. [EMAIL

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/10/08 8:34 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You run insaller.rev on Windows only. This create in the /Documents/Rev/ folder all required fodlers evenRuntime/MAC OS X/Universal Yes it did Good :-) You need just MNUALLY copy here from MAC V4REV.bundle

Re: OS X Application icon corrupted by V3 standalone maker?

2008-10-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Phil, I have seen this happen several times. Particularly cases where the icon file was completely empty. Somehow, it hasn't happened again lately. I'd make sure that you have the latest build of Revolution and set the path to the icon file again in the standalone builder settings. --

Re: script abbreviations

2008-10-10 Thread william humphrey
That secret trick improves the dictionary greatly. Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Bernard Devlin
Peter, I've experience in quite a few languages, and I have to say, I too find Obj-C a bit hard to swallow. I even prefer smalltalk to Obj C. However, whilst I'll sidestep the possibility of running a Rev app on the iPhone, can I just ask you if you are aware of the problems with iPhone

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Wood
Given that there's no way of distributing iPhone apps other than through Apple (apart from the tiny minority of users with jailbroken iPhones), it's a relatively important thought. Ian On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:21, Bernard Devlin wrote: If you are not planning to deliver your iPhone app

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: However, you might be better addressing Apple and asking them if there is the possibility of writing an application for the iPhone that is not a web app and is not written in Obj-C. The approach that the Unity guys have taken is that

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I've experience in quite a few languages, and I have to say, I too find Obj-C a bit hard to swallow. I even prefer smalltalk to Obj C. I believe that now the iPhone Developer's NDA has been relaxed, we should start to see more tutorials appear. However, whilst I'll sidestep the possibility

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Chipp Walters
Sorry to disagree with you Sarah, but that just is not the case. There are a number of apps which have been rejected for various reasons with extremely lame excuses. John Gruber, a very PRO-APPLE guy, has an interesting write-up on the situation.

Great Article by Judy Perry on Rev in Ed in RevUp Newsletter

2008-10-10 Thread Mark Srebnik
Congrats to Judy Perry on her inspiring article in the new RevUp Newsletter on Rev in Education! Really nice to see how Rev can help young minds grow Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?

2008-10-10 Thread Ken Ray
I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? You could try using StackRunner, which is a free player app for all platforms:

Re: iPhone again

2008-10-10 Thread Sarah Reichelt
As I read Gruber's article, his main point is that the policy is wrong, not that the pulled app was in contravention of the current agreement. However I do think a pre-approval mechanism would be beneficial. And please don't apologize for disagreeing with me. If we can't have a reasonable