Rev. 2.6.1 is *very* slow to startup on my 2 gHz Win XP box (at the point at
which menus and plugins are loaded it appears to all but hang). Also,
opening stacks and saving stacks is slow, but not always---depends on the
stack.
Standard 2.6.1 installation; no 3rd-party add-ons, etc. I do not
Thanks to all who replied.
I am using no anti-virus software, and it's a pretty basic Win XP SP1
installation.
I have a feeling that, aside from the intial startup delay, it might be due
to the fact that the stacks I'm running open other stacks across a local
network. There's always a bit of a
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Thanks, Chip; I'll try that.
Chipp Walters wrote:
[...]
Easy to fix.
2 cents:
In an era where, if I wanted to, I could easily spend $5 on a cup of
coffee, an IDE such as Dreamcard at $100 seems very reasonable. If
you like what it can do, then spend more for the Studio version, etc.
I've no problem with the pricing as it stands in US dollars. I don't
know
Thomas,
Other options exist; here are two URLs which might interest you:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com
HTH,
Kurt
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I have to admit that when I first saw the title of this thread, I
thought:
Whew, what's next? Magenta? :-)
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I don't remember who to thank for this one, which I modified only
slightly:
on testForConnection
put 255.255.255.255:43222 into testSocket
open datagram socket to testSocket
put hostAddress(testSocket) into theIPAddress
close socket testSocket
if theIPAddress is 127.0.0.1 then
Glad it works for your setup. Thanks to Dar Scott.
I've been using this one since you posted it and i really like it.
VERY fast.
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Alex Tweedly wrote:
[...]
sqlite sounds like a good option - but I'm not sure it is needed. For
5000 records of 50 fields, that's not a scale of problem that
*requires*
any database. There may be other aspects of your problem that cause
you
to need a database (complex searches or sorting,
Is there a method within Revolution by which text can be converted to
phonemes using the (Mac-specific) function TextToPhonemes?
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/
Speech_Synthesis_Manager/Reference/reference.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/
TP3211-CH1g-F07877
(above
I have a new problem, open docs, click on Topics then click in the
TOC book marks
-Containers etc.
Rev locks up... any remedies?
It does not actually lock up (for me, anyway). It just takes about
30 seconds for the full content of the Containers... topic to
display. Once displayed,
John, is there any chance that your stack (or
standalone) needs to access data (other stacks,
substacks, or other media) and expects to find it in a
particular location? If so, moving the stack (or
standalone) from its original location might prevent
it from functioning properly.
Kurt
Does anyone have an example of a simple stack used to make audio
recordings? It would have to work on Windows with a minimum of
fuss. Simple interface; just Record (with an indication of elapsed
recording time) and Save. I'd be interested both in what might be
possible on Windows with
In Rev Online - User spaces under sms I have a stack called
RecPlayWawMCI
which may be of help.
Thank you; this seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
-Kurt
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At first glance, the stack-based documentation for 2.7 seems greatly
improved in terms of responsiveness. No more waiting for the
spinning busy cursor when searching for a term (both Mac OSX and WinXP).
Thank you!
Kurt
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Is this how most databases function?
On further thought on the record locking..
It might be possible for you to take the approach that the real
field is
never edited real time, but only a temp field that is later
processed in the
time sequence (the seconds) 'submitted' in an orderly event
http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-823.html
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How many big cat names are there?
I'm waiting for Tabby :-)
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Have you looked at the open driver and read from driver commands?
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I want to access it in Revolution instead of using somebody
else's hex editor software
If a Hex editor can see it, then Revolution can as well. But if
the data stored on the card is not entirely printable text you need
to specify that the data is binary.
(Forgive me if you know all this
Comes the revolution!
Everything is jake!
Comes the revolution-
We'll be eating cake!
When the streets and rivers run with red,
I'll be underneath the bed.
And after all their capers
Put the foe to rout,
I will buy the papers
To see how we came out.
Comes the revolution- all is jake-
And soon
I'm looking for an efficient way to do the following:
1) I have a collection of about 50 very small graphics (bw).
2) I'd trap keystrokes to set the cursor to a miniature
representation of one of the above graphics.
3) Subsequent clicking on a canvas would create and place a copy of
the
Recently, Scott Rossi wrote:
Both of these two options would rely on one
complete set of note images that are referenced, as opposed to
duplicated.
I never thought of referencing the images, but it makes sense. Avoids
duplication and bloat.
I would establish a
positioning grid such
This is actually more of a Windows networking question rather than a Rev
question per se:
I have a small XP Pro local network using a router. Since the router is
connected to the Internet via DSL, I have the Zone-Alarm firewall set up on
each of the 3 networked PCs; it allows shared access to
Recently, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Usually, the DSL router will have a fixed inboard IP address (often
192.168.1.1) and an outboard IP address assigned by the ISP; it's up
to the ISP whether that's a fixed or variable address. Normally, that
doesn't matter, because you must set your default gateway
Recently, Mark Wieder wrote:
If you are assigning static IP addresses to your locally networked
computers (and this is a good thing btw) *and* you have dhcp enabled
on your router, make sure you are assigning addresses outside the dhcp
address pool. For example, if the router will assign
I have a stack which uses a large number of audio files, and unfortunately
they were recorded at various volume levels. I would like to even them
out so that they sound more matched with each other, volume-wise. Does
anyone have a suggestion as to a utility that can accomplish this? It is not
You might look for an audio editor that has batch processing features.
The process you desire is called 'Normalizing'...
Thanks for the information!
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On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Can't you just use the Check for Updates... option under Help menu
and find out if you have the latest and greatest?
It appears that the built-in Check for Updates... function is not
reliable:
Put the buildnumber gets me 108
but Check for
Also:
http://www.shopperturnpike.com/usefulsoftware/Guide to C.pdf
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Hi Keith,
I designed a simple application to keep track of payments to ca. 1000
accounts. Originally I went with a single text file, parsed for the
individual account data which was then loaded into fields in a single
stack, but I had troubles getting the formatting to work equally well
on
(Chipp Walters wrote about the advantages of the Rev stack format
especially where self-updates are concerned, and of stacks as
convenient and flexible containers)
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-August/064314.html
Thanks for your clear and direct explanation! I imagine
Many years ago I tried, using SuperCard, to create a realtime recording
device, i.e. set a metronomic pulse and trap for mouseclicks in
relation to that pulse. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the
runtime's response to the mouseclicks, which would throw off the timing
of the pulse.
JP wrote:
...Ever since Rev announced the first HC cross-grade pricing, I've
paid for
my annual license despite the fact that I don't sell a dime's worth of
software, only use it in-class, and am not reimbursed by my
department
I also am currently employed in another field and am not at the
What's the smoothest way to play a series of QT-compatible movie
files? ...
I'm not sure if the method used here:
http://www.shopperturnpike.com/usefulsoftware/cliplinkviewer.html
-would suit your needs, but if it does, let me know and I'll send you
the file in stack form. You can then rearrange
For those Revolution developers trying to get the Mac OS X speech
synthesizers to do what Apple's documentation says they are *supposed*
to do via embedded commands:
(excerpted from a recent post to the Apple speech-developers Mailing
List)
...There are the [[rate]], [[pbas]], and [[pmod]]
General information about the Apple speech-dev mailing
list is at:
http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/speech-dev
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I know that database formats are a FAQ here, but I was
not able to locate a reference to this specific
question; if someone knows that the subject has
already been covered, please point me to the
discussion.
I've long used the basic HyperCard model (one card
per account, much like a Rolodex) as a
Klaus M. wrote:
...
Sorting and even searching for a specific line that
contains or
starts with xxx
(lineoffset IS fast :-) works with no noticable
delay...
So i think this is the way to go, if you don't want
and/or need a real
database engine like Valentina, mySQL etc...
Hope that helps...
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.I don't understand: as I read that it seems to suggest that all
we do
is switch the scrolling from Mac to all other OSes, so that instead of
the scroll taking place on 2.4% of computers it takes place on 97.6%.
Remember that having
I have a repeat loop within a button script that runs constantly:
on mouseup
set the name of me to STOP
repeat until the mouseclick
--do specific stuff here
wait ten seconds --I need this delay
end repeat
set the name of me to START
end mouseup
Is there perhaps a more efficient way
...One of the flasher examples from the Message Mechanics Primer
might
help...
Thank you, Dar. I'll have a look later today!
-Kurt
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playLoudness manages relative audioClip volume, but has anyone figured
out a
generic shell command to set the volume for MIDI playback (SW Synth in
the
'volume control' control panel) or is the command device-dependent?
Purpose:
To superimpose wav speech over midi music and control relative
...In that case you could copy the file onto your HD temporarily, edit
and then copy it back to the server...
Would something like this work? There would be two versions of the
splash-stack, one for User-A, and another for User-B, C, etc.
User-A opens splash-stack and data-stack.
Please chalk one up for me.
Kurt
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So, step one. Please let me know either off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such an eBook if it were
available for immediate download at a price of, say, $15. If it seems
Assuming that an individual substack consists of a single card
containing perhaps 7 or 8 fields, each with 5 KB of text, plus a few
pop-up menus and buttons, how many substacks can be associated with a
single mainstack? Only one substack would be open at any given point,
but I might have as
On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:23 AM, EC wrote:
You can open as much script windows or property palettes as you want...
Don't you?
To do this there are not thousands of stacks (or substacks) in the IDE.
Think of such an architecture to solve your problem:
Create a template substack (only one!) and clone
Eric:
Why not?
Yes you can!
Kurt:
But how? (This has to be under script control in a standalone app).
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While running a stack (will be a standalone) I would like to create a new
mainstack in a specific path. I understand that I can set this path by using
the defaultFolder property. However, I don't seem to be able to save a new
and separate stack, only a substack. And I guess I can't set a
JL wrote:
When you save the new stack, save it by its full name, including the
path and .rev - that is how I do it.
Kurt:
That's it. Now it works. Thanks to all.
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This morning, while in the shower of course (Mr. Kaufman, the U.N. has
decided to elect you Secretary General, on the condition that all of
your decisions regarding this institution are made whilst you are in
the shower.) I thought of another possible Rev-only solution to the
problem of
Bill wrote:
Why again are you not just using MySQL or SQLite?
Kurt:
I guess I'm a bit intimidated: Many pages of information on how to set
up a Rev stack to work with a SQL db; the question of how to create
the db itself from existing data in stack format (I've managed to
export it to text,
GT wrote:
One potential problem - if you are relying on the filesystem's locking
facilities to control access to files in a multi-user situation, then
I'm guessing that the volume that holds these files must be made
available to each of the client computers that is running your
application. But
RC wrote:
[...] What you propose with text file databases should work seamlessly
within
Transcript...
Kurt:
I'm glad to hear that. Thanks.
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Anyone know if Mac 10.4's Automator is a collection of customizable
pre-fab Applescripts? As the author of a few Rev utilities that use
Applescript, I'm wondering if Applescript will continue as before?
KK
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RC wrote:
Question:
How do changes on individual cards in different copies of a stack in
each
user's RAM get made to the copy resident on disk? There is not, to my
knowledge, a way to save changes on one card of a stack without
overwriting
the entire stack. So if I open a stack before you,
sims wrote:
At 10:10 PM -0700 4/25/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I'm not sure if this will work for you, but lately I've been using
tab-delimited text for the sorts of things I used to use cards for. I
maintain a one-card window for display, pouring data into the fields
as needed, but the data itself
RG wrote:
...From the session I attended at WWDC last year on Automator, it appears
to be merely a point-and-click way to write AppleScript, just like
interface for making scripts that you can use with Flash in leiu of
directly typing, or the point-and-click scripting found in FileMaker Pro
for
If you check the box in the Stacks section of Standalone settings that
says Move substacks into individual stackfiles then you will be able
to save all but the mainStack.
One thing you might want to keep in mind if you are running multiple
stacks off an anchor standalone file: Pay attention to
I know that this issue was addressed sometime in the
last couple of years, but I can't seem to locate it:
When selecting a single line from a scrolling list
(this being a Rev list, not the OS file selection
box)it would be useful to enter 1-3 keys to have the
field scroll to the entered letter,
Well, here's a start:
(script of list thelist)
on keydown whichkey
if whichkey is not in abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz then exit mousedown
repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in cd fld thelist
if the first char of line x of cd fld thelist = whichkey then
select line x of cd fld thelist
Thanks, Mister X. I see how I can adapt your script.
-Kurt
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Directed to Tiger users:
Are the [[rate]], [[pbas]], and [[pmod]] embedded commands working as
specified by Apple in 10.4?
Here's an example to paste into a RevSpeech field (or TextEdit
document); if it sings while using any of the Macintalk 3 voices
(Kathy,Princess, Fred, Junior, etc.), then
I have a group of 950 small (25k) record stacks, each of which
contains a separate business account. I have 2 shared stacks PPR.rev
and paymentReceipt.rev, as well as two anchor standalones. The
standalones serve only as navigational tools to open up PPR and
paymentReceipt. From PPR, it is
On May 7, 2005, at 8:15 AM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
Are the [[rate]], [[pbas]], and [[pmod]] embedded commands working as
specified by Apple in 10.4?
I was informed by a member of the Apple speech technologies team that
the commands are fixed in Tiger. :-)
KK
I'll try:
if there is a file BusypaymentReceipt.txt then delete file
BusypaymentReceipt.txt
wait 30
if there is a file BusypaymentReceipt.txt then delete file
BusypaymentReceipt.txt
wait 30
--and see whether there are any more failures. We can put up with an extra
second delay, knowing that the
Thanks to Alan and Chipp for their perspectives on business and law.
Anyone who draws up business arrangements (in the software field or
otherwise) would be well advised to read their posts to this list:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-May/057273.html
A Two-Button Apple Mouse
Many people, including myself, have been using a 2-button/scroll-wheel
equipped mouse (albeit not an Apple-branded one, obviously) for years,
so I guess Apple decided they'd like to tap into that market
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Many of the older available AS books are geared towards Applescript as
it functions in Mac OS 9.
I know that there are at least 2 other recent Applescript books, but I
have not seen them yet:
AppleScript: The
Pretty far OT for the Revolution list, but of interest specifically to
those of us who are writing applications for Mac OS X, a review:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/26/tiger_ui_review/
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Some people like programming, some don't.
Some thoughts:
I have to admit that when I am knocking my head against the wall trying
to determine why the [EMAIL PROTECTED]* THING WON'T WORK, I'm not the happiest
camper.especially when I discover that the problem lies with a
misspelled
UDI,
Generally, MIDI files have as their first four characters of their
header:
MThd
Perhaps a mechanism could be set up to assure that MIDI files are
treated appropriately if they begin that way. Or do I misunderstand
the problem?
-Kurt
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UDI writes:
...Will not there be a method to import a MIDI file in stack rightly?
Most applications that play MIDI files on Mac OS OS X do so via
Quicktime, which has built-in (Roland) synthesizers. On Windows, I
understand that the Windows Media Player is accessed.
When working with MIDI
Mr. UDI wrote:
...
So I tried this:
answer file Choose MIDI file
if ( it is empty ) then exit mouseUp
import videoClip from file it
OK, It was surely imported. MIDI data is in stack file.
play vc 1
Oh, this fails sometimes...
I'm surprised this ever works at all; I get a short
Tim,
What happens if the player is part of a group which appears on all
cards? Or how about playing the sound file as an imported audioClip?
(I'm phrasing this as a question because I don't know the answer, but
you might try these possibilities if no one else steps in with a
definitive
...i have been exporting my RR songs, then
playing them in HC. very limited
Hi Erik,
If what you need is to be able to create actual MIDI files, then you
might want to look at the MIDI stack that is included with RR 2
pre-release (will work with RR 1.1.1 also). It does not use the
Malte Brill wrote:
...Sorrowly Tempo is not a MIDI event
Strictly speaking, maybe not, but it can be defined within a standard
MIDI file. If you produce a MIDI file with RR's MIDI Builder stack,
and you open it with a Hex editor, you will see a spot in the first
track where the initial
Ken Norris wrote:
...It's a Mac PowerBook 1400c, 133mHz, 48mb RAM, 1.2g HD, under OS
8.6. Up
until a couple years ago, it was still a fairly powerful machine, but it
tends to be a little wimpy with newer apps these days...[...]...
I have a 128mb CF card in the PCMCIA slot as a formatted volume
I've never understood why needless complexity always seems to trump
elegant
simplicity in the world of computing.
It may be that people in general are inclined to stay with what is
initially learned or what is familiar, regardless of its level of
complexity.
-Kurt
I want to experiment with sounds in a stack but don't know where to
begin.
Does rev have any built-in sounds other than the beep. Where do you get
sounds and how do you get them into the stack?
See the transcript dictionary entries for import and play. You
would import an existing AIFF, WAV or
Tuviah Snyder wrote:
check out the new revIsSpeaking function in 2.0
Does anyone know if the text-to-speech voices can be manipulated with
in-line commands the way it was possible to do so under Mac OS 9 and
10.0.x?
For instance, since OS 10.1, they no longer respond to pitch
stipulations in
I was wondering if you could answer for me if =
it is possible to map a midi note to another midi note. For example,
can =
a scale be represented as midi numbers, like 64 66 68 69 etc,
signifying =
C D E F, and then to map that to 70 72 73 as the output, for example?
So =
an input note (the key
Valetia asked:
* What is the recommended or easiest way to make a group scroll?
* How do you position the portion of the content that cannot be seen
before
the group is scrolled?
1) Determine the size of stack window needed.
2) Position all objects in visible portion of stack window.
3) Group
Thanks, Alex. Doubtless the problem will be corrected ASAP, but in the
meantime I don't have to guess which button is Next.
-Kurt
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Has anyone else noticed the following problem?
Rev. 2.0
Mac OS 10.2.6 (or 10.2.x ?)
OS X distributions, not within Rev development environment.
QT players for audio or MIDI. The controller does not update properly
and/or behaves erratically.
-KK
Does anyone have a suggestion as to the most efficient way to:
(1) Open a binary file (generally less than 100KB in size)
(2) look for specific byte-sequences in that file (using offset? -or is
that just for text?)
(3) split the data into sections based on location of the
byte-sequences in (2)
Thanks, Dar.
I'm not familiar with regex. However, I originally figured offset
would be particularly useful, as I have to search for each successive
match from the point at which the last match was positioned in the file
(now variable). I can do this with offset's charstoSkip parameter, I
I remember back when I was using Oracle Media Objects (which required
distribution of a runtime player along with stacks) I would use a
utility called RegEdit to produce a script that, when run, would
alter the Windows registry to associate the stacks with the player.
This was Windows 95,
I wrote:
...Maybe RegEdit still works, has been updated, or perhaps
there is a newer equivalent for WinXP
Just to set the record straight:
Regedit has been revised for XP.
-KK
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I tried to set 202's Distribution Builder's prefs to default (after
correcting the window size) and I got the error message:
Couldn't find file /Users/alanbeat/Latest Revolution
Distribution/Utility Stacks/docs-converter.rev
I guess the Rev. 202 wasn't set to factory defaults before release.
On May 29th, 2003 I wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the following problem?
Rev. 2.0
Mac OS 10.2.6 (or 10.2.x ?)
OS X distributions, not within Rev development environment.
QT players for audio or MIDI. The controller does not update properly
and/or behaves erratically.
I checked the Rev bugzilla,
Ken Ray wrote:
...I remember developing a couple of stacks for SuperCard that
helped people understand how to build menus and work with different
kinds of buttons...
Those were great, Ken; they certainly helped me when I was starting out
with SuperCard (I'd played around with HC only briefly
Oops! Forgot to write:
All of these links seem to work only if I copy them, paste them into
the address text box of I.E. 5.23 (OS X) and hit return. Why this is
so? -No idea!
http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/BezierLine1_1.zip
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Is this what you're seeing? (from the release notes):
Issue: When using QuickTime 5, the controller thumb in a player does
not
always update properly while a movie is playing. This issue is being
actively investigated with Apple.
Workaround: Do something that will
Now, by currier, do you mean one who will tan your hide or one who will
seek your favor?
And I, for one, am glad to see this sad thread fizzle out in benign
absurdity.
-Kurt
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Is there a way to have a web page either:
(1) save it's self, so it's user editable fields can be read later?; or
(2) have the web page read a text file and populate it's fields. Then
save
the user editable fields back to the text file?...
This sound like something that could be done using
You might want to take a look at this link from a thread earlier this
month (Very easy to build a web database):
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~tfurukaw/RunRev/developer.html
Now I'm just guessing here: Perhaps each user could populate their own
stack using email-address/password.
...can anyone recommend me a different audio file type
that is not so memory-eating but that Revolution handles as well as
Mp3s?...
If you do not need stereo sound, you can get decent sound quality at
about .7 MB per minute by using the following settings:
IMA 4:1 (that's AIFF-C, I think)
at
With regard to the spate of recent Rev 2.1 installation error problems:
It may be that some people are confused about whether or not they are
entitled to a free upgrade to 2.1. A couple of days ago, Heather
Williams wrote:
Ok, it seems that certain of the replacement license codes were not
Uh, sorry, make that:
If you purchased a license for Rev 2.0.x after 26th August *2002*, and
your unlock code does NOT work with Rev 2.1, then you need to contact
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I guess it IS too complicated for me.
-KK
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