Re: OT: Morfik is now free
It's for making WEB apps (sites really) not desktop... On 12 November 2010 03:26, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/2010 08:38 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- Morfik 3 has just been released, the licensing restrictions are gone, and it's now free. http://www.morfik.com/ Jolly good: although when one goes to the Morfik website it does not tell one which operating systems Morfik functions on; typically arrogant Windows-centric viewpoint!!! It also doesn't seem to indicate which OSes it builds for. Won't function under WINE 1.3.6 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer Documentation
You will need this obscure but incredibly important little document. http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt It's the only technical manual for the server product. On 11 November 2010 11:11, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first time playing with revServer through my on-rev account. I couldn't find much information on its features and what is and isn't available to revServer on the samples site. This seems to be the only documentation I could find. Is there a dictionary or a user guide or a different mailing list for revServer that I can refer to? Also, are there any good third party hubs for revServer articles or samples? Thanks, Andrew -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/revServer-Documentation-tp3038378p3038378.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beachball cursor
gee - I thought those ones created by the online generator were pretty good! you'll have to roll your own - hey that's fun... On 9 November 2010 08:40, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote: Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions, fellas. Guess I'll someday get around to implementing a busy cursor to my liking. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
What you described is 'fair use' in the US. It means 'backup copy for personal use'. On 8 November 2010 10:35, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to being a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD playback on my Ubuntu boxes is, at best, lumpy. Therefore I am proposing to make ISO images of all the DVDs that I own and use on a regular basis onto the hard disk of my main content delivery machine; I will always have the physical DVDs present in the classroom. This will allow my Ubuntu box to play my DVDs normally. Can anyone advise me as to the legality of this action? Morally I have no qualms whatever; without this process I would have to, either, purchase a TV and a DVD player, or, a Mac. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: serial port problems
I think that the no-name adaptor might be a problem. I've successfully used the KEYSPAN adaptor with Rev recently with version 4. I have not tested the KEYSPAN with 4.5. search google for keyspanhttp://www.google.com/search?q=keyspan+serial+adaptorhl=ensafe=offclient=safarirls=enprmd=ssource=univtbs=shop:1tbo=uei=dPzWTMK8HIS2sAOrpYCNCwsa=Xoi=product_result_groupct=titleresnum=3ved=0CEIQrQQwAgbiw=1577bih=951 On 7 November 2010 07:18, Larry Walker la...@walkerenergysystems.comwrote: I am trying to read data from a serial port (using a USB-serial adaptor). I am on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8, using LiveCode 4.5, and Prolific model 2303 USB-serial adaptor. ; I believe I'm doing just as he suggests (except for the no-name adaptor I bought), Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Browsing the internet... It is safer from Linux?
Peter, where do you get these 'facts' about the security and vulnerability of MacOS today? Your statement just doesn't match up with my experience with the OS. Dead Duck? On 31 October 2010 02:22, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: OSX is a dead duck almost right away, Windows not long after, and Linux holds out longest. But I don't know what the starting setup is on the windows installation. Peter Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stress-testing SQLite -- millions records? Use Valentina DB
Yes, I've been waiting for Ruslan to chime in here. Valentina has been the
*elephant in the room* in this discussion and I find it slightly odd that
Richard (no newbie in the Rev world) hadn't considered this product for his
project.
If I were starting a new db project right now and wasn't forced into mySQL
by the client, I would take a serious look at the Valentina ADK.
Right now they are offering the beta of Valentina Studio Pro for free ( and
there's a free Valentina Linux server for non-commercial use - Richmond?)
geesh, I just talked myself into finally trying this product myself.
I don't see any other db company bending over backward to serve Rev/Livecode
users. And we even have Ruslan on the list here
On 29 October 2010 23:28, Ruslan Zasukhin
ruslan_zasuk...@valentina-db.comwrote:
On 10/30/10 3:17 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
I have a need coming up for a data store that can robustly handle at
least a million records, ideally up to five million, where each record
may be as large as 5k.
I don't need relationality, so for me SQLite is an option but only an
option; I'm happy to consider other options as well. (Yes, it has to be
SQLite rather than MySQL, because it needs to work embedded with a
commercial application).
Valentina DB is faster 100 times of SqlLite, mySQL
And can be perfectly embedded into commercial application because it is
royalty free.
Have any of you done stress testing on SQLite to that degree?
I've tried finding even anecdotal data on the web for SQLite limits, and
while I can find citations of theoretical limits I haven't come across
real-world usage stories of data sets that large.
Should I be confident in SQLite as a storage solution for that? Should
I be scared?
SCARED :)
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
SQLite.
You need Valentina DB.
Okay you need 5K for each record.
How many fields?
Let me remind that Valentina has columnar format.
This is huge advantage.
Also Valentina can give you not only SQL way but NON-SQL way,
Which can be additionally 10-20 times faster!
--
I can tell you store, that Valentina was tested for AOL Europe by their dev
team. Against Berkly, mySQL, postgre, and other dbs. SqlLite even was not
in game of course.
Task was so simple. Table has 2 fields {URL, PictureBannerAd }
So when somebody ask for a WEB page, it needs find banner to be shown.
As they told, e.g. Berkly have give 100 faults per time (min our hour I not
remember now). Other dbs also. Fault means that banner was not found by
DB
in time less of timeout.
Valentina have give them zero faults.
Let me underline this very important feature NON-SQL-ness of Valentina.
As well as very powerful SQL.
Today is very modern stream talk about how SQL DBs are bad, and how cool
are
NON-SQL with Key-Value. Guys, be happy, Valentina is perfect for both
tasks. :-)
If talk about details, in V4REV API (and most others Valentina ADKs) you
can
use not SQL way to do searches and sortngs using
VField_FindValue()
VField_FindRange()
VField_FindLike()
And other similar search methods. They are really FASTEST POSIBLE way.
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Best regards,
Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com
[I feel the need: the need for speed]
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Re: [OT] Browsing the internet... It is safer from Linux?
Alejandro , When did you last hear about a Mac virus? I don't like to boast, but.. I practice safe computing and a good router and don't use any anti-virus software at all on any of my 4 macs. Haven't had a virus problem since 2002. All running Leopard. Am I being foolish? I find the need for the annoying McCaffe software when I've used XP quite disgusting. If the OS is so bad you have to use a third party app to 'protect' yourself The symbiotic relationship between McCaffee and Microsoft is kinda creepy. There's even a button I did not install that goes to their website imbedded in IE 6. Downloads are almost always easy fast and safe on macs On 30 October 2010 14:25, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Recently I have been considering seriously to unplug all my Windows computers from the internet and use only Linux to browse and download updates. In truth, How safe is using Linux browsers in the internet? Most exploits seems directed to Windows and Mac users but are Linux users really exempt from these risks??? What are your first hand experiences with the most common security risks under the Linux platform? http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page http://e-articles.info/e/a/title/Which-Are-The-Most-Common-Network-Security-Risks/ http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/technews/34952/today-10-most-common-security-threats-on-the-net http://www.brighthub.com/internet/security-privacy/articles/3438.aspx Thanks in advance! Alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This probably reflects my complete ignorance, but...
Chip. That photo is hilarious. Was that some band promo fail or something? Creepy. Perfect for your demo though. On 29 October 2010 01:48, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: go URL (http://www.widgetgadget.com/stuff/testLineDraw.rev;) -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: html entities
One could roll a special getprop handler that lives in the script of the field (and / or controlled by a behavior for several fields ) that can change the text (using replace or merge) to anything you want: *instead of * get the htmltext of fld xxx *call your getprop property instead* get the htmlConvertedEntitiesText of fld xxx On 29 October 2010 07:53, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@gmail.com wrote: Got a small problem and wondering if there's any way around it. When getting the htmlText of a field, is there any way to make Rev/LiveCode return the numeric html entities of special characters? So for example, if I have a word in Spanish, like día (accented i), if I put that into a text field and get the htmlText property of that field, is there any way to return the string d#237;a instead of diacute;a? When setting the htmlText property, either one works, but Rev always returns the latter. Thoughts? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-updating apps, and splash screens.
Search for Magic Carpet at Chipp's site. On 28 October 2010 21:10, Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote: Alex - search the List archives for Chipp's updater, he has a few posts that outline what seems to be a good system and gives some excellent advice. sims --- On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I have a little app that will be used on a number of computers, so I want it to check for a new version being available, and update itself if needed (and desired). I know the easy way to do this is to have the executable be basically a 'splash screen' that starts the *real* stack, and therefore the real stack can be updated. Does anyone have a sample stack / app showing this ? And, what do you as app users prefer 1. The app automatically updates itself when a new version is available. 2. The app downloads the new version automatically, and then (next time?) on startup asks if you want to install the update. 3. The app lets yo know there is a new version available, and asks if it should download / install the update. 4. Something else. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.
that's hilarious. had me fooled. Ahhh unicode. On 23 October 2010 16:05, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Thanks for that. I was worried about my new app called EYE-tunes. I now expect no legal concerns from Apple because mine's spelled different from there's. Perhaps you could get away with calling it something with inverted text: sǝunʇı ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
HI, Mike, There are actually two models, the full size USB 105 key version with num keypad, and the wireless, smaller version. if you haven't tried one of the 'newer' mac keyboards, they're not as impractical and non-tactile as they look. They take a little getting used to, but they are not chicklets, as in the Texas Instruments personal computer disaster. I now prefer them over PC-like keyboards. They're light and easy to pack in luggage. In other words, don't knock it until you've actually used one. They will take the abuse, but of course any keyboard used every day will get worn out after a few years. I'm buying another one of these things soon. On 22 October 2010 07:35, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound
yes, I'm guessing that it's not flushing the audio buffer on close. Another coding error that's been there for ages. I'd suggest that your stop sequence include some kind of delay before actually stopping the recording, so the talent stops speaking earlier than the actual time it stops, and it should all work out. *Send in time* would work well for this... Colin, check out videograbber, it's fairly useful for some limited video chores. It's inside every installation (in the mac package Contents:Tools:Resources:Sample Projects: folder as Video Capture.rev) -- they actually fixed most of it in the last updates. On 22 October 2010 10:44, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment which is recording several hundred short video clips a day. The clips are variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message - typically 10-30 second each. In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost. The actual sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1 second shorter. Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem? TIA, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XMLRPC question
Welcome to the list, Leland.
I don't know the exact differences, but Key Ray has created an alternative
library for XML in Revolution - many users say it's a better implementation.
http://www.sonsothunder.com/products/xmllib/xmllib.htm
sqb
On 21 October 2010 09:29, Leland Vandervort lel...@dev.discpro.org wrote:
Hi All,
Apologies in advance if something along these lines has already been raised
on the mailing list ‹ having just joined the list at the suggestion of
runrev support.
I did try via the forums and looking around the wider net for some
information, but have drawn blanks.
Please see below the cruxt of the question/problem that I posted to the
forums.
Thanks in advance for any guidance, advice, pointers, etc.
Regards,
Leland
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From the forums:
I have an application that I'm trying to prototype that makes extensive use
of XMLRPC, including advanced data structures (such as arrays/array-refs,
hashes/hashrefs, and even arrays with embedded hashes which themselves may
contain additional arrays with further embedded hashes etc.)
I can manage to do just about any manipulation that I need to do for XMLRPC
in Perl, but I'm finding the revXMLRPC functions to be very cumbersome with
unclear documentation and almost no working examples available that I've
been able to find. To be honest, I'm not even sure of the revXMLRPC
functions even de-serialise the encapsulated XML data to return standard
data structures, or if I then have to use additional functions from revXML
to do that.
Perl, of course, contains a number of various libraries to work with XMLRPC
and simply deserialises the data to return a data structure with which I
can
work.
Given that LiveCode/Revolution is toted as less coding, and more
productive, I'm at a loss to find an equivalent to the types of things
that
I'm trying to do here.
For example, with just a few lines in Perl, I can use (in this example) a
couple of XMLRPC calls to obtain a list of virtual machines from a cloud
provider, and the current data concerning those machines. (using the
Frontier::RPC library for this) .. example:
--- code ---
# other stuff snipped here to get to the nitty gritty
my %vms ; #empty hash to store the details of my VMs
# login to rpc server
my $rpc = Frontier::Client-new( url = $server_url );
my $key = $rpc-call('login',$username,$password);
# got my key now start calling various methods...
my $vm_list = $rpc-call('vm.list',$key);
# now iterate the vm.list and get the info for each vm and store it into a
local hash for manipulation
foreach my $vm (@{$vm_list}) {
my $vm_info = $rpc-call('vm_info',$key,$vm-{id});
# store the data in my %vms hash
$vms{$vm_info-{id}} = $vm_info ;
}
$rpc-close();
# now I can do whatever I like with the data...
# like iterate through the list and display some useful data...
foreach my $vm (keys %vms) {
print VM ID: $vms{$vm}-{id} -- Hostname: $vms{$vm}-{hostname} --
State: $vms{$vm}-{state}\n;
# get a list of interfaces in the VM:
print Interface List...\n;
foreach my $if (@{$vms{$vm}-{ifaces}}) {
print Interface ID: $if-{id} -- Speed: $if-{bandwidth} -- Status:
$if-{state}\n;
}
}
--- end code ---
I can't seem to find a reasonable way to do this in livecode/revolution
with the limited examples/documentation that I have available (and I have
hard-copies of the RunRev 4.0 user manual, and the 3.0 dictionaries volumes
1 and 2) -- Just wondering if there is a relatively straightforward way of
accomplishing the equivalent of the above in livecode as I cannot find any
suitable examples after spending hours searching the forums, and the wider
net...
Thanks in advance for any pointers, tips, or references that may be useful!
Regards,
L.
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Re: crop command
Regardless of the method of acquiring, the data has to be put in RAM for any kind of manipulation, including cropping or resizing. sqb On 21 October 2010 11:11, Vokey, John vo...@uleth.ca wrote: LiveCode graphics gurus: I have to process a few thousand photograph files through a simple set of manipulations that scales, translates and rotates the images to a common standard, and then crops them to a fixed size. The code is simple, except apparently the crop command doesn't work on file-based image objects. How do I manipulate the file-based image to allow for the crop command? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
I think Java apps are not self-contained and require a separate runtime on the machine. On 21 October 2010 11:44, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: I read somewhere that Java apps would NOT be allowed. Not sure that bodes well for Rev. On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I think that LiveCode standalones ought to come under that ok. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev remote database
This is not a universal restriction with all web hosts. Datamost, for instance, will allow any number of MYSQL databases and the user can tie those DB users with any end computers' IPs from the Dreamhost control panel. In fact, it's possible to use the % wild card and specify partial or even all domains (not recommended) so it could work from anywhere. Dreamhost gives their users a lot of rope (including shell access over ssh.). On-Rev is more restrictive. Of course if you need and are using on-rev, then you would need to buy and install revserver at Dreamhost as well. For best security (and if you have thousands of users, it's really recommended) to use the cgi 'firewall' as suggested to protect your server and clients' data. You will find that opening and closing MYSQL frequently has almost no overhead, compared to returning the data to the client. the hit that the server will take with a cgi firewall will be minimal. Rev server is FAST. On 19 October 2010 04:56, Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net wrote: This is all a moot point now since I have just been informed by Heather that the only way the on-rev server can be set up to do this is if you give them all of the IP addresses that people are going to connect from and they will allow those IP addresses to connect. This of course will never work with a large potential user base of hundreds or thousands. I guess I'm going to have to throw away everything I've done so far and start over with the web based approach that Pierre suggested. It's going to kill my performance but it's the only option I've got open to me at this point. len morgan On 10/19/2010 2:27 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Le 18 oct. 2010 à 20:41, Andrew Kluthe a écrit : The client never actually gets the login credentials for the database because they are stored in our private big client DB. On startup the rev program fetches the credentials from our database and connects to theirs to begin working with it. Definitively the way to go ! I would hate to have to rewrite my entire suite of programs to center around an irev script for the transactions. I would love to use On-Rev as a database host because of how close it is to where I am located and the power of revServer. If you prefer, you can do this in having your client (web browser or LiveCode ria app) posting their credentials to a PHP script indeed but in any case you will have to be sure that the server-side script will respond to the clients requests and interact with the db-backend only when each client will have been authenticated as allowed to interact with its own account on your on-line app. If most of your customers are, alike mine, using dynamic IP to connect the cloud and subsequently your or mine on-line apps, an IP-based authentication system will not be usable nor safe at all in such a context. HTH, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev remote database
It's not available in cpanel now. I looked. I thought it was in the USERS and / or MySQL area a while ago. On 19 October 2010 12:22, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty sure you can, check the tool in cpanel, I believe I read in there that % is allowable. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev remote database
wow. I was wrong. thanks s On 19 October 2010 13:24, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Look on cPanel under databases section, theres a link for remote mysql. This is on Odin. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: It's not available in cpanel now. I looked. I thought it was in the USERS and / or MySQL area a while ago. On 19 October 2010 12:22, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty sure you can, check the tool in cpanel, I believe I read in there that % is allowable. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Property profiles apparently broken in LiveCode 4.5
I've never really understood how profiles are supposed work - On a this list a few months ago property profiles were discussed, and I got the feeling there were very few people that actually used these special properties. What would they be used for, Language changes? Skinning? what is the scope of what is supposed to get changed and can that same scope be reset to the starting settings? Or could one end up with a mess of unwanted default property settings? Just as important, what *doesn't* get changed? This would be similar to the trepidation I have using the Geometry Manager... one slip of the code and it's *curtains* for one's layout. Or this could be the coolest thing for creating custom objects by script ever. the inquiring coder wants to know... sqb On 13 October 2010 00:01, David Beck david_b...@rotundasoftware.com wrote: Hello, Something has apparently changed from 4.0.0 to 4.5 that has badly broken some logic in one of my stacks that use property profiles. It looks like the behavior of revSetCardProfile may have changed. The stack works as expected in 4.0.0 but is broken in 4.5. Has anybody else experienced problems when using property profiles in 4.5? Is this on a list of fixes? Also, in a separate but closely related question, where can I find a the 4.0.0 installer? Thanks very much. David Beck Rotunda Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Simple RPN Calculator on RevOnline
except '*dup*' - ha On 13 October 2010 14:44, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Andre. All four registers, x,y, z and t are identical, and reside in a single LIFO stack: T Z Y X X is the register that is visible. The upper ones are above it, take a tiny bit of getting used to, and then unleash their power. One enters data from the keyboard into x. Enter simply says: terminate data entry, and move the data in x to y, y to z and z to t (t is lost). Any operator, like + says: add y to x, leave the answer in x; move z to y, move t to z and leave a copy of t in t. There is a switch x and y button, and a rollDown button, that shifts data downward, one register to another, and passes x back up to t. That's it. That's all one needs. Craig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selectedChunk always empty?
perhaps you haven't selected a chunk of text in a field? If your field has a blinking cursor but no selection, that would make the selectedChunk empty, no? On 10 October 2010 10:21, Inselfan balearenin...@gmx.net wrote: Hola, Using 4.5 Is there a reason, why selectedChunk is always empty??? using 1 field, place the cursor there and then I klick on a button with this script: on mouseUp put the selectedChunk into tSelectedChunk ... end mouseup Whatever I do, tSelectedChunk is empty. Is there any reason, Am I doing something wrong? hoping for a helpfull hand, I send you kind regards Horst -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/selectedChunk-always-empty-tp2970443p2970443.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selectedChunk always empty?
what is it supposed to return, all of the text in the field? On 10 October 2010 10:34, Inselfan balearenin...@gmx.net wrote: Hola Stephen, Thanks for this, but: Yes I have a blinking cursor and YES this (Selectedchunk) works perfect with the same text-field and another button. It is really 1:1 Must be something else Kind regards Horst -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/selectedChunk-always-empty-tp2970443p2970459.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Downgrade to 2.9 How to get the Stackscript?
using the save dialog to save the 4.5 stack, use the popup below the listing and Save as Legacy Livecode Stack first On 10 October 2010 10:29, Inselfan balearenin...@gmx.net wrote: Hola, thinking to go back to RR 2.9, so I ask how/where to get the Stackscript back. WHY? All scripts I used and safed with LiveCode4.5 lost the Stack script if I try to use them with 2.9 again. All calls to open the stack-script end with ignorance from RR 2.9 :( Thanks for helping hands Horst -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Downgrade-to-2-9-How-to-get-the-Stackscript-tp2970454p2970454.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Downgrade to 2.9 How to get the Stackscript?
you will lose any new features that were added after version 2.9, however when you do that. On 10 October 2010 10:56, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: using the save dialog to save the 4.5 stack, use the popup below the listing and Save as Legacy Livecode Stack first On 10 October 2010 10:29, Inselfan balearenin...@gmx.net wrote: Hola, thinking to go back to RR 2.9, so I ask how/where to get the Stackscript back. WHY? All scripts I used and safed with LiveCode4.5 lost the Stack script if I try to use them with 2.9 again. All calls to open the stack-script end with ignorance from RR 2.9 :( Thanks for helping hands Horst -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Downgrade-to-2-9-How-to-get-the-Stackscript-tp2970454p2970454.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selectedChunk always empty?
perhaps you are defeating your selection by clicking a button or using the message box this works from the multi-line message box: *select text of fld Field of card id 1002 of stack Untitled 1* *put the selectedchunk* if you put this into the script of a button *on mousedown* * put the selectedChunk* *end mousedown* then the selection one makes by hand will remain and the selectedchunk will be placed in the message box output: char 1 to 22 of field 1 if the selection is a blinking cursor then the cursor position will be put into the message box output: char 23 to 22 of field 1 if neither the selection made by hand or a blinking cursor is happening, then empty is returned: On 10 October 2010 10:50, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: what is it supposed to return, all of the text in the field? On 10 October 2010 10:34, Inselfan balearenin...@gmx.net wrote: Hola Stephen, Thanks for this, but: Yes I have a blinking cursor and YES this (Selectedchunk) works perfect with the same text-field and another button. It is really 1:1 Must be something else Kind regards Horst -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/selectedChunk-always-empty-tp2970443p2970459.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Livecode suffix is a pain
I complained about this during the last 4.5 beta on the Improve list. I too find this inordinately long suffix forced on us very cumbersome and annoying. In all views, a list of livecode stacks with the long suffix is distracting due to the repitition and in the case of icon view, it is often harder to read the whole name due to concentation. Just because a few other apps do this doesn't make it right. On 8 October 2010 10:07, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, With LiveCode, new stacks are created with the .livecode suffix, and this screws up several of my utility programs which create paths which assume a .rev suffix. Of course, when I save a new stack, I can always replace the livecode suffix with .rev, and this seems to cause no problems. But then I have to remember each time I create a new stack to make that modification. Question 1 : Do livecode suffixed stacks differ from .rev suffixed stacks ? Question 2 : Can I automatically have the .rev suffix used when creating a livecode stack ? (Can't find anything in Preferences !) Question 3 : Why was that change made in the suffix ? I see that when saving stacks, we have the possibility of creating a legacy stack. What difference does this make to the stack ? Having a new product name is all very jolly, and certainly affects very few Rev users, but for me it's a pain. -Francis P.S. If the name LiveCode is so important, how come that we don't have a livecode.com ? (I see it already exists, but belongs to DOTSTER INC) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plug-ins missing
as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My Whatever but the directory name needs to be set. On 6 October 2010 09:27, dunb...@aol.com wrote: LiveCode did not make a new plug-ins folder, it seems to use the old Rev one. I have a few of these in the old Rev plug-ins folder, which did some stuff on startup. They no longer show up in the plug-ins submenu of the Development menu (in liveCode) even though they are still in that folder. So why can't LiveCode see mine, but does see the several default ones? Thanks. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plug-ins missing
it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding folder, like My Livecode Stuff. mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox directory. On 6 October 2010 10:50, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My Whatever but the directory name needs to be set. I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC it seems it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu, only the default ones. Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my installation? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plug-ins missing
tRev, now Remo also can use this location as its default for Remo stuff. On 6 October 2010 10:59, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding folder, like My Livecode Stuff. mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox directory. On 6 October 2010 10:50, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: stephen barncard wrote: as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My Whatever but the directory name needs to be set. I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC it seems it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu, only the default ones. Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my installation? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plug-ins missing
I couldn't find anything aobut it easily so I just 'dicked around' until it worked! On 6 October 2010 11:05, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: I guess the user is expected to dive into the manual to determine what Extensions means. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project
I had some friends in the early 80's (when I worked for Datamost Games) that were working for Disney Games. At the time they had a policy against long hair and beards. I guess that's not so anymore! On 6 October 2010 15:08, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jeff- Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 12:43:05 PM, you wrote: The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and sent it off to Nintendo... http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey The behind-the-scenes clip looks great. This oughta be hitsville. That is all. LOL. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?
I still think it's all because of ^%$$#^^#^ Flash. 10.6.4 crashing browser, usually during a flash movie. I love to blame flash for everything wrong in my life. On 5 October 2010 02:46, Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup, requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it started after installing the 10.6.4 update. When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous problem with this version So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 grin, grin... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?
BTW methinks the new FLASH 10.x stuff is crashing the current Safari version - I finally switched to the latest WEBKIT browser daily build (the latest beta of Safari, really): http://webkit.org/ On 4 October 2010 10:43, Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.com wrote: Médard, works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to be a problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you. cheers jeff On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel. Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-) Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit* -- but I see that it works on your machine! * Safari 5 has a new extension scheme is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Which app has which ports
check out WIRESHARK http://www.wireshark.org/download.html for network investigations. On 4 October 2010 21:43, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote: Many port sniffers will tell you that, google and see if you can find one! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab) Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened them. Bob On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: Hi Bob No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am sure you will find something that works for you. Best wishes. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have a mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is open. I have no idea which app would have that port open! Bob Sent from my iPad___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMobile Discussions
yes! Runrev, PLEASE FREE THE ON-REV CLIENT and API. What is the big secret, anyway? sqb On 3 October 2010 13:55, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote: On 3 October 2010 17:40, Michael D Mays mich...@michaelsmanias.com wrote: A classic example is the On-Rev client. Locking that thing up in a standalone was completely pointless. Active members of the community could have rolled their own versions of a client (ie based on an informal API), that would have been orders of magnitude better than the current offering. It would not have mattered if this API moved fast (it hasn't anyway), nor would it matter if they withdrew the API / charged for it / locked things down afterwards (as long as we knew this was a possibility up front). We can only hope that this old-school business logic is replaced by a saner cooperation with developers, a saner use of common technologies to integrate the various lists, forums, and bug tracking, and an intelligent use of open content licensing for some of the IDE components. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Storing an Array as a Custom Property
there are no property names with spaces. sqb On 2 October 2010 17:10, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote: Sorry, but I said TAB on Return, which IS a field property. Joe Wilkins On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: While we're talking about bugs, I found that you cannot change the field property TAB on Return from the multi line msg box. That's because there is no property called Tab in Return. By default, the Rev Property Inspector hides the English-like names used in the language and instead shows what is presumably an Even-More-English-Like label. The problem is that there is then no direct way to know the name of the property you're setting. In this case the actual property name is autoTab. The first thing I tell my clients to do when they begin learning Rev is: 1. Go to Preferences 2. In the section with the heading Property labels are:, click the option labeled Name of LiveTalk Property. Once that's done the Inspector provides reinforcement of the tokens you'll have to learn for scripting anyway. And without that, as you've found it just raises the learning curve. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
perhaps only in your mailer. On 1 October 2010 11:28, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: No offense, but how in the HECK did this get stuck in the middle of the IPad's competitor from RIM thread? Bob On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Terry Judd wrote: The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT][FYI] Graphic Converter 7 has been released.
I know a lot of people on this list probably use Graphic Converter as a less-expensive Photoshop and Thorsten Lemke has released his latest version, and it ROCKS. He's offereing an incredibly reasonable upgrade offer, and after 5 minutes with this version, I upgraded from the last version for about $25 US. WOW is all I can say. Great features not available anywhere else, not even PS. This is a complete rewrite. http://www.lemkesoft.com -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
google mail seems to keep the threads straignt. Better than any other mailer I've used. On 1 October 2010 17:19, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: That's what I did, so it makes sense. Terry... On 02/10/2010, at 4:56 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Aye. Methinks that when someone replies to an email from the list, there is some kind of identifier in the email that tells a mailer it belongs to a particular thread. So if someone replies to one thread, but substitutes the subject with an entirely new subject, some mailers might just think they were still the same thread. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :-) Bob On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:52 AM, stephen barncard wrote: perhaps only in your mailer. On 1 October 2010 11:28, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: No offense, but how in the HECK did this get stuck in the middle of the IPad's competitor from RIM thread? Bob On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Terry Judd wrote: The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins in LC 4.5
livecode prefs:filesmemory:user extensions set to your old My Revolution Enterprise (or whatever you want to call it) using the set button (...) On 29 September 2010 18:14, Cal Horner calhor...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Help me out here! Either I'm having a brainfreeze or age is catching up with me. I can't figure out what has been done with the plug in folder that was in my Revolution (edition). And all the documentation that has been provided is leaving me stumped. Has anyone in the list managed to get plugins to work like in the good ol' days? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode resource center from Rotunda moved
I love Rev success stories. Congats, the site looks great, David. On 29 September 2010 19:29, David Beck david_b...@rotundasoftware.comwrote: Hello all, The location of the LiveCode resource center from Rotunda, which contains free libraries that we use in our commercial applications, has been changed. The new location is: http://www.rotundasoftware.com/livecode/ Also, you may be interested in seeing some more commercial products that have been developed in LiveCode. Here is our new website: http://www.rotundasoftware.com/ Rotunda helps non-profits coordinate their volunteers. Best, David Beck Rotunda Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripter's Scrapbook: Where do the Files Go?
Very clear. Thanks, Hugh. On 25 September 2010 12:49, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Recently added to the Scripter's Scrapbook on-line reference library: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk/support/WhereDoTheFilesGo.pdf Following changes to the way plugins are treated in LiveCode 4.5, this document explains the three install alternatives for using your Scrapbook as a plugin, as a stack file, and with a standAlone application program. I hope it will be helpful. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
It's all on the net. Your cheapest and easiest solution is to use a Keyspan USB to serial adapter and Rs-232 serial protocol. Here's one hit from searching google for joystick rs232. Sooner or later, some soldering may be required. Interfacing Atari-style joysticks to PC parallel and serial portshttp://www.epanorama.net/documents/joystick/pc_misc.html On 26 September 2010 06:10, David Glasgow da...@dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.ukwrote: Hello folks, I really really want to make a Rev (Ooops) LiveCode app with a push pull interface like on a mixing slider, or 'dive' and 'pull up' on a plain old joystick. I have raised questions about this a few times on the list over a number of years, and got some helpful pointers. However, having followed these into the underpants of USB, I have discovered that is not a place I have the ability to work. So I give up. Is there anyone on this list who could create a cross platform extension or library thingy which would allow me to read the state(s) of an ordinary, off the shelf USB joystick? If so, what would the cost be? Best Wishes, David Glasgow i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
Richmond, many people have tried and failed to grok the USB stuff, and the HID manager appears to not be that simple as keydown. It's not a keyboard, it's a totally different API. http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#samplecode/HID_Manager_Basics/Introduction/Intro.html On 26 September 2010 12:25, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: My own inclinations would be to run round the corner and buy a crappy USB joystick and plug the thing in, and then set up some silly little stack that will pick up the signals from the USB stick [ they cannot be that other-worldly ] and see whether they can be interpreted as KeyDown, rawKeyDown type signals . . . Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Updated website
I love this, one bad-ass revolutionary bass player congratulating another. On 26 September 2010 12:25, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote: Hi Mark, Klaus- ...and turn up the bass... Yeah, you BET! :-D -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Best Klaus Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
unless there's an extension mapping it to the keyboard routines. A reasonable conclusion.It would be great someone made a joystick as easy to read as barcode scanner. It's ironic that the toughest to implement interfaces were formerly the simplest. ( like the single - bit ports on the Apple ][) On 26 September 2010 13:57, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/26/2010 09:54 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Richmond, many people have tried and failed to grok the USB stuff, and the HID manager appears to not be that simple as keydown. It's not a keyboard, it's a totally different API. OK; my mistake was precipitated by my plugging my Nostromo into my new G3 running Mac OS 10.4.11 and getting an unknown Keyboard signal. ___ -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
So that simple $20 USB joystick that Richmond mentioned is not the exact solution that the original poster wanted? That USB Service plus is great for labs but did you see the prices of that stuff? And it probably has to be shipped from Germany. On 26 September 2010 21:55, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: If I understood him correctly he wants to plug any standard USD game device into his computer and control it with LiveCode. For him to use the USB Service Plus gadget he might get it to work but then anyone using the game he develops would need to buy the gadget which is not going to happen so that idea does not seem suitable. I had mentioned I was working on a serial communications stack that was going to allow you to also control X10 and similar home control devices accessing a X10 USB or similar device with Livecode. This appears to be feasible by opening the port with livecode and then using the right driver to access the USB device. The problem I had was after opening the serial port I was able to send a certain amount of text and then rev would not send anymore which makes me think they are using a memory buffer in their code that fills up. So if that is what is happening even if you are able to control the USB device it will stop after the buffer is full which means you will need to close the port and open it again which empties the buffer allowing you to send the same amount of text again. That is going to cause problems if you need to close the port and open it again during game play. -=JB=- On Sep 26, 2010, at 7:15 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: The USB Service Plus gadget would do all this and be fun to work with as well. http://www.bkohg.com/serviceusbplus_e.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripts that are already running
Isn't there something in the 'new' externals interface that can share rev globals, or pass a handle to a memory block? I'm talking out of my hat here. On 24 September 2010 10:15, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Jacques, et al. The wait with messages, which I know about, is compact and cool. But that code needs to reside within the running handler. As do, in their own way, all the other comments from everyone. For example, BonnMike notes you can read the state of a property while a handler is running. Certainly you can, but only from within the handler. I was asking if any state of the machine can be accessed from outside a running handler. I read from all the responses, as I thought, that it cannot. Say a variable is gettinig incremented in a repeat loop. Its state changes as the loop progresses. Can this state be returned to the engine from some externally running process, one that would be able to monitor handler variables on the fly. It would require, essentially, that the handler be interrupted continuously. I don't think this is part of the xTalk world. I am not sure about other procedural languages. This all came about because someone wanted a single universal watchdog on his stack. He had several handlers in several places, all of which could create a condition he wanted to act upon. So the send in time handler fit that bill. If he created yet another such handler somewhere, it would be covered. But it occurred to be that if the condition was met and the handler still had much to do and might take a long time to do it, then the condition could not be dealt with until that handler ends. It seemed intriguing to think that something could monitor, say, the state of variables, from outside the handler while it was running. Anyone think this is a useful, perhaps monumental, feature? Craig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripts that are already running
That's to keep it handy for the Livecode Resource Center. A small button that says Launch PDF is there. On 24 September 2010 12:38, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: One small step in that direction, from the LiveCode 4.5 Release Notes.pdf (which is unfortunately buried deep inside the app bundle on OS X virtually guaranteeing no Mac customer will ever see it) Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] The IDE Extension Plugin is on the road
thanks, mr. slug this is very useful. On 24 September 2010 17:37, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, The Slug is pleased to announce the availability of a plugin on its website. This plugin extends the IDE with: - a way to resize controls with arrow keys. Just press the alt key and give the direction of the resizing by pressing an arrowkey. You can resize a selected control or several selected controls, by 1 pixel or with the shift key modifier by 10 pixels increment. Do you need accuracy when you resize a control? This plugin is for you. - the possibility to switch temporally the selection mode to surround, by pressing on i. No need to switch the corresponding menu in the IDE. You can download this plugin by following this link: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categorydownload=16:ide-extension-pluginid=11:freeItemid=63 Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Right, but ssbk.rev also seems to be the core app loaded by the standalone. So the DATA and BUSINESS LOGIC are both in ssbk.rev ? On 23 September 2010 02:34, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Your Entries are stored in the stack data file (initially called ssBk.rev in the download). If you have more than one Scrapbook, it will also be a stack data file. I have not used Dropbox so it would be good to know that a 'roaming' solution for ssBk is easily available. Hugh Senior FLCo stephen barncard asked... Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Will all due respect, Hugh, I've always cringed with the upgrade process with SS. It was never clear what to do with the mess in the folder that was left, and what was what. On 23 September 2010 10:19, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: A hanging app has been reported when using an old version of the standAlone with ssBk. Go to www.flexibleLearning.com/ssbk, click FREE DOWNLOADS and download a replacement standalone application in the Extras: Application Programs section of the page. After an update, the 'new folder' is always generated in the same folder as the folder you started in. You simply archive your old set-up and move the new files back into the original folder. This is a fail-safe so you can always revert. Hugh Senior FLCo JosepM wrote: Hi Hugh, I tryed to update to the last version, but the app is hang up, and still Startup... Exactly what I must do after update and see the NEW Scripter's Scrapbook? I have version 5.2.16, inside the 5.2.17 and now inside of this the 5.2.19... :( Only I can use the 5.2.16... Salut, Josep M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text File Import
Apologies, it was my somewhat snide reply to your question: What you just asked for was a complete APPLICATION ! And the fact you have to deal with the HORRIBLE CSV format. Commas should have NEVER ever been used for delimiters, period. Returns mess up everything. Actually what you asked could be a library or an app. What would you pay for such a thing? Anyway, you'll like the one you make better anyway than some partial demo stack. If you can make this to your stated specs in 5 hours, then you are a much more efficient coder than I am. Even if it's for myself, I like to take time with the gui, the menus, etc. It makes a difference if it's just being used by me rather than by others of course. If somebody else has to use it, then it's a whole new ball game, support, etc. On 23 September 2010 11:21, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: why, do you have something that does more, Stephen? For what we usually do around here, this is pretty bare-bones and straightforward, but rather than spending five hours writing it I thought I'd ask first. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?
2nd position on Google for shao sean http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:19, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago I saw in the Shaosean's website that he had a interesting libraries and stacks. Often I check their website but I don't found any. It's posible locate the FTP and SMTP libraries? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-can-I-found-the-Shaosean-libs-tp2552883p2552883.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?
I misread. you need to contact Shao directly. I dearly regret mentioning something about some error in the code of a demo stack not meeting Shao's usual (excellent) 'standards'. I think my statements may have lost something in translation, as Shao was obviously insulted. It was meant as a compliment and a gentle mention of the coding error. Now it's become a byline on Shao's website. http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:21, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: 2nd position on Google for shao sean http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:19, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago I saw in the Shaosean's website that he had a interesting libraries and stacks. Often I check their website but I don't found any. It's posible locate the FTP and SMTP libraries? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-can-I-found-the-Shaosean-libs-tp2552883p2552883.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The message sent before preOpenStack
startup On 23 September 2010 16:25, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: I forgot the name of the message sent to the first card of the main stack in a standalone before everything else, even preOpenStack. I have used it before but those stacks are not where I am. What is the name of the message? execute? setup? preamble? begin? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
go to reveditor.com On 22 September 2010 00:32, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site ( http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site ( http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
Jerry rebranded. It's still tRev. On 22 September 2010 00:48, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I have tRev 0.2.0.0 and it is possible to download it from reveditor... but Remo ? Le 22 sept. 2010 à 09:42, stephen barncard a écrit : go to reveditor.com On 22 September 2010 00:32, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site ( http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com ). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site ( http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Derek Bump
Has anyone heard from Derek Bump since he offered his JPEG product source for sale a few months ago? His Dreamscapesoftware.com site is still up, but his emails (including the support emails on his site) all bounce. I was trying to get a link for his HTMLtoCSS stack, which I think someone was asking about here. I send it directly if someone needs it. sqb -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
perhaps there's an iFrame or include in the html that references another page -- On 22 September 2010 12:14, Sumner, Walt wsum...@dom.wustl.edu wrote: Thanks for the lead on screen scrapes, but the problem is there is nothing to scrape. The put URL(...) and revBrowserGet(tBrowserId,htmltext) return the html, but not all of the text that is displayed on the page. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
I'm not sure the web server component is needed most of the time if all of one's machines are on the same LAN. The local files on local machines seem to get reconciled way before the web version. very fast. On 22 September 2010 13:35, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.comwrote: I've been running into a similar problem with dropbox. I'd like to have my Valentina databases there and I can't figure out a way to configure the vServer to allow that. Drop box sure is an excellent solution for back-ups and use with more than one machine. I only worry about the company disappearing or starting to charge for small uses or something. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . On 21 September 2010 04:34, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: Monte, I ended up giving up and using Ralf's TextMate bundle+Cyberduck. Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Best regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
The on-rev client could be one of the first items to be released to us for 'open-sourcing'. Is the debugging code a big secret? Then put it in a substack, let us call to it and make a better editor to go around it. On 21 September 2010 10:39, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Stephen- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:32:46 AM, you wrote: then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . Good to know, although I haven't had problems with ftp and on-rev. It's debugging that stumped me since I needed to look at variables in situ. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
web deployment=plugin they don't list on-rev accounts yet On 21 September 2010 11:18, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I purchased the on-rev package when it came out and now when I look at my account it says Web Deployment - already purchased. I also am a Enterprise user so it may be connected to that but it sounds more like it is connected to on-rev to me. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David Bovill wrote: On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
I see a page with a hundred stories and a hundred links, all which change hourly. To what (or which) do you refer? On 21 September 2010 11:41, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://distrowatch.com/ Ugly! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
Hi Andre, is dropbox a macos feature or an application? On 21 September 2010 15:53, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: What I am doing these days is using dropbox to contain my plugins folder. This way all my machines have an up to date copy of my doings and I am able to work whenever I am. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jacque- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, you wrote: In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Actually, it's never been created automatically. Would that it were. And note that you *don't* select the Plugins folder itself with the browse button, just the folder that contains it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text File Import
Is that all it has to do? On 21 September 2010 16:46, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Before I go reinventing the wheel, does someone have a stack that will import a a folder full of .csv or other database export files, create a stack with either a substack or backgrounds for each of the files, import the data, and create list and detail layouts? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible HTMLText Character?
Scott: how about a non-breaking space? *nbsp; * in the html?. just tested it - it works in rev html pone/p pnbsp;two/p pthree/p pfour/p pfive/p one two three four five On 21 September 2010 18:25, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Anyone know if it's possible to define a character in HTMLtext as being invisible or hidden? I'm trying to create a workaround for bulleted text lines that wrap. Ideally, the wrapped portion of a bulleted line should be indented the same amount as the above line that's indented by a bullet. I was hoping I could place a bullet in front of the wrapped line and use HTMLtext to make the bullet hidden or invisible. Is anything like this possible? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev
yes, Jerry has had to update it a couple of times due to the new packaging and names. He finally got it to work with any bundle name - it's what's inside that counts.He was on it from the first day. On 21 September 2010 18:55, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten tRev to work with LiveCode? I put it at the same level as the app but no luck. Found the same problem. But then re-downloaded tRev and it worked. Perhaps a newer version now? -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev
yes, REMO - a surprise to me. Not sure if that's a mistake or not, but it sure looks like tRev. You may have to re-enter your registration number again. Hold down option while starting the app and you can zap the prefs. Perhaps yours old license timed out or it needs to re-do it. REMO? WHat happened to our favorite scary beast? On 21 September 2010 19:20, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: I am confused. I went to tRev site and re-downloaded and got another app instead but which looks like tRev. Loaded and it works. Then had to renew license (just did - I love tRev). But now it downloads older version of tRev which states it is not most recent version and when clicked on takes to same old previous version. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:04 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yes, Jerry has had to update it a couple of times due to the new packaging and names. He finally got it to work with any bundle name - it's what's inside that counts.He was on it from the first day. On 21 September 2010 18:55, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten tRev to work with LiveCode? I put it at the same level as the app but no luck. Found the same problem. But then re-downloaded tRev and it worked. Perhaps a newer version now? -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible HTMLText Character?
Perhaps I didn't understand what you are trying to do - did nbsp; not work for you? On 21 September 2010 20:05, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: I would colorize the bullet the same as the background but the text/bullets sit on a gradient. Also, I could be wrong but I don't believe the HTMLtext property (as opposed to standard HTML) has ever supported tables. Thanks for the suggestions though. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
Why bother with revBrowser at all? Just do this in the message box: put URL(http://website.com/page.html) and this will put the website html into the message box output. Obviously you could do this with fields. Check out Jerry's videos on Screen Scraping: http://revmentor.com/business-logic-screen-scraping-1 http://revmentor.com/business-logic-screen-scraping-0 On 21 September 2010 22:16, Sumner, Walt wsum...@dom.wustl.edu wrote: I am trying to recover text from this web page and all of its siblings: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-life-saving-electronic-cigarettes-available/#sigs/691732733/user/1 The interesting part of the page is the comments, which do not appear in the HTML, but which can be copied manually. I can open this page in a browser in LiveCode. With manual mouse motions, I can double click a block of text, choose Select All from the Edit menu, choose Copy from the Edit menu, and then paste into a field where the comments all appear and are easy to disassemble. Unfortunately, the revbrowser set command and get function do not do anything comparable AFAICT. The Select All choice is not implemented in the DoMenu command. I think that printing a pdf is also out. So, any thoughts on how to automate this part of a petition review? For instance, maybe there is a simple way to save the text to a file with the revBrowserExecuteScript function (using JavaScript for Safari)? BTW, the browser is fully capable of crashing LiveCode on at least some OSX machines. Please don't lose any work for me. Thanks, Walt___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
It's a repackage and rebranding, partially in response to surveys. The ownership is the same as far as I can tell. The web site looks great. On 20 September 2010 12:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.comwrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
It does. sqb On 20 September 2010 15:06, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
A lot of prefs got reset. And the My Livecode folder would have to be created (hopefully not using the my). Then go into Rev prefs and Files And Memory and at the bottom is the USER EXTENSIONS field - set that to whatever folder you want - including your old rev folder. On 20 September 2010 16:11, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Can't access Preferences at all in LiveCode let alone Files. And there is no My LiveCode folder inside the documents folder here. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Alex, You can go to Preferences - Files and set your extensions folder there. Or you can use the default one which is My LiveCode inside the documents folder. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Just downloaded the shiny new LiveCode onto my Mac Snow Leopard machine. My apps use libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev. In runRev 4.5 I keep them at the same level as the Revolution app and the Externals and Resources folders. I have tried placing them at the same level of these folders inside LiveCode.app, but no joy. What should I do? -- Alex Adams hawkVision ‹ yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
The confusion is because of the name change. Just go into the Livecode preferences and set the user extensions setting to your old rev user extensions folder and/or name them what you want. We haven't had to do this for years. On 20 September 2010 16:15, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: Any ideas? I'm dead in the water until this is resolved. Put a Plugins folder inside the folder you declared in the User Extensions preferences. Put your plugins into the Plugins folder. Aren't these both script libraries? If so then they should go in: User Extensions/Resources/Script Libraries That will integrate them with the standalone builder. At least it did when I originally wrote the SB. The IDE Should provide options for loading these libraries at startup but it doesn't. I used to have a plugin for that but I haven't had time to maintain it for years. Make a quick plugin that parses the stacks in that folder at startup and starts using them and your set. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting started with databases
Filemaker tabbed delimited export converts returns to vertical tab characters. You can still retain your returns. On 16 September 2010 13:25, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: To my knowledge, it exports just the tables and indexes. It may also export relationships, I don't know. I just know that after I purchased it, I was a bit disappointed because I thought I could take a fully functional Filemaker Database, complete with forms and everything, and it would create a fully functional revolution stack for me. Perhaps my expectations were a bit hi. Things may have improved since then. At the time the developer told me that there was no easy way to get information about forms from Filemaker in any kind of meaningful way, but perhaps he has that figured out now. Also be aware, (and I don't want to sound too negative) but apparently there were some issues with my data, and I never even got the tables ported. I think it had something to do with blank data or carriage returns or something. As far as CSV, if there are any delimiters in your data in Filemaker, such as commas, quotes, tabs or returns, a CSV export will be very problematic. You should first try to convert anything that might be be construed as a delimiter in your filemaker data to some other character, or unlikely combination of characters, so that whatever you use to import with can convert them back before shipping them off to an SQL database. This is just the nature of export/import with dissimilar data structures. Bob On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Bob, are you saying, just the tables...? So why not export the tables as csv? Am I missing something to do with relations? Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Getting-started-with-databases-tp2540312p2542837.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Server Side Database Advice
Change hosts or use a cgi interface, not a direct connection. On 16 September 2010 13:32, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com wrote: I am developing software that needs to pass information to a centralized MySQL database. My current host started blocking connections as they said the MySQL database was for web applications only and had an issue with updating it with an application. Plus they only allowed a few concurrent connections. Anyone have any advice as to how I should handle this or experience with a host that didn't have any issues with this? Thanks! Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Waiting for DNS to update a new site.
Propagation used to take days. These days it seems to take just minutes or hours at Dreamhost or ON-Rev. Your milage may vary On 15 September 2010 02:31, AndyP smudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, I can see the page. I'ts going to be a DNS propagation delay...more info below: To speed up the internet, Internet Server Provider (ISP) caches their DNS Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] O'Reilly eBook deal of the day (cookbooks for 9 USD)
Thanks Andre... I bought 4 eBooks. O'Reilly are the *SAMS photofact** of the software age... *SAMS was (is?) a major publisher of tech books in the 70's and 80's like the TTL cookbook, the CMOS cookbook, 555 cookbook, active filter cookbook, Analog IC cookbook, etc. On 15 September 2010 07:24, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote: Andre, Thanks for the heads up. Mike --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: From: Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com Subject: [OT] O'Reilly eBook deal of the day (cookbooks for 9 USD) To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:48 AM Folks, http://oreilly.com/store/ddccc.html o'reilly cookbooks for usd 9. -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] O'Reilly eBook deal of the day (cookbooks for 9 USD)
Not only pdf but enhanced pdf and most of the common book formats. All the indexes, links and cross-references work. On 15 September 2010 13:01, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Are these delivered in PDF? Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Waiting for DNS to update a new site.
Bad domain settings can partially work. Make sure she's set to her own connecting ISP's correct domain servers, or a more dependable outside DNS. On 15 September 2010 15:06, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied - it was very helpful. Stephen, I have had the same experience - propagation is very rapid (I also use both Dreamhost and on-rev :-) But in this case, the one person who actually matters is still not able to see her own website. I'm starting to think it's her computer, not DNS (though the web tool I mentioned says that 6 out of the 20 sites it uses worldwide still do not see the domain properly). I'll try Wayne's suggestions re. Windows / Firefox - or maybe just get her to switch off/on her computer and see if that helps. Thanks again -- Alex. On 15/09/2010 16:19, stephen barncard wrote: Propagation used to take days. These days it seems to take just minutes or hours at Dreamhost or ON-Rev. Your milage may vary On 15 September 2010 02:31, AndyPsmudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, I can see the page. I'ts going to be a DNS propagation delay...more info below: To speed up the internet, Internet Server Provider (ISP) caches their DNS Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqbhttp://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Apple comunicate relax restrictions
yep On 9 September 2010 23:32, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Today I read this: We are continually trying to make the App Store even better. We have listened to our developers and taken much of their feedback to heart. Based on their input, today we are making some important changes to our iOS Developer Program license in sections 3.3.1, 3.3.2 and 3.3.9 to relax some restrictions we put in place earlier this year. In particular, we are relaxing all restrictions on the development tools used to create iOS apps, as long as the resulting apps do not download any code. This should give developers the flexibility they want, while preserving the security we need. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html This mean that RevMobile for iPhone/iPad is posible? Salut, Josep M -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Apple-comunicate-relax-restrictions-tp2533932p2533932.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Ft Gay, GA
The listmom has often stated the off-topic subjects are religion, politics, and cheese. Surely sexual preference should also be on the list. This is not a total free-speech zone. On 9 September 2010 22:06, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/10/2010 01:17 AM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: Bob Sneider Said: Mind you, I think homosexuality is a perversion... BTW don't anyone bother deriding me for that. Speech is still free. :-) Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Functionality AND good taste?
And don't forget Scott Rossi ! On 8 September 2010 13:54, Paul Looney simpl...@aol.com wrote: David, You don't need to do it yourself. It continues to amaze me but... great design can be bought! I've hired Terza Snyder to improve some of my work and the changes are phenomenal. I could never in 20 years (or 100 design books) come up with the wonderful stuff she has. She knows what she is doing. Engineering/Programming and Design are different disciplines/talents, it is a very rare person who excels at each. Paul Looney On Sep 8, 2010, at 3:00 AM, David Glasgow wrote: Hello folks, I am being encouraged by customers to update and improve a Rev built product I produced many years ago. I have a wish list for functionality changes, but I am slightly depressed at how ugly and old the original looks. I have decided to start again from scratch, so there are no limitations on what I can do, other than those imposed by Rev and my abilities (mostly the latter). I have no background in design, but would like to make the product look better and up to date. I know I can pretty much change the appearance of anything in Rev, but this is a serious product for technical use, so I am not thinking oval windows and faux glass skins. I also strongly subscribe to the view that less is more, so I don't want reflections and things swooshing about. Are there any books or online resources on making software look simple and good? Thanks Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question about the debugger in Rev 4.0 - solved
And thanks for sharing the results. We can all use this info. On 8 September 2010 15:00, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote: At least I now have a path to refurbishing old stacks to get back code editing ease, if they need it. This is a task for this very evening. This is good... another bit of knowledge about complex projects, and it has a good answer! Jim Ault Las Vegas Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Valentina for iPhone
WOW Wasn't somebody asking about this recently? And it's FREE? http://www.valentina-db.com/en/products/ivalentina-for-iphone -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [feature] did you guys knew that ? is a valid character for function/command name?
If one is interested in speed, it can be quite useful. Also you could write scripts with no functions! Just commands. Return the data in the same variable without copying to another (which happens in functions). It's a different coding style for sure. On 7 September 2010 09:56, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: I have never used this method of passing-by-reference i any of my stack, so actually i dont know how useful it really is. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag cursor
I think this should just work. I don't think you need to do any cursor stuffl, at least on the Mac. I've seen the green PLUS and I didn't do any cursor code at all. Try without doing any cursor calls. On 7 September 2010 11:02, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Does anyone know how to specify the drag cursor type? I am dragging images around and want to display a 'copy' cursor (with a little plus sign) when the ctrl key is down, a 'move' cursor (no little plus sign) when the ctrl key is up, and a 'cantDrop' cursor when appropriate. The engine seems to over-ride any attempt to 'set the cursor'. Hugh FLCo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cookies again: Expiry Date
I've also found that the 'normal' cookie listing in Safari security preferences is difficult to work with - however *Develop:show web inspector:storage pane*l shows cookies in a better way and refreshes easily. For a while I thought my cookies weren't working - but it was because I was setting the time and date to the current time - and that's the expiration time and the entries wouldn't appear. Here's my code for creating the correct format for the date: blockquote function returnCookieDate pSeconds,pGMTHours -- returns a date compatible with cookie use: -- Sun, 5-Sep-2010 15:25:12 GMT --requires setOffset, below if pGMTHours is empty then put -0700 into pGMTHours if pSeconds is empty then put the seconds into pSeconds end if -- add or subtract zone offset (like -0700) from local to GMT in seconds here put setOffset(pSeconds,pGMTHours) into pSeconds convert pSeconds to dateitems put pSeconds into tDateItems convert pSeconds to internet date -- like Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:25:12 -0700 put word 1 of pSeconds into tDay put (word 2 of pSeconds) - (word 3 of pSeconds) - (word 4 of pSeconds) into tDate put word 5 of pSeconds into tTime replace space with - in tTime return tDay tDate tTime GMT end returnCookieDate function setOffset pSecs,pGMTHours -- 20100905 -- figures offset for time zone relating to GMT -- example pGMTHours = -0700 -- pSecs is the time in seconds if character 1 of pGMTHours is - then delete character 1 of pGMTHours put - into pSign else put into pSign end if put character 1 to 2 of pGMTHours into t6oFS -- chop trailing zeros put (t6oFS * 3600) into tOffsetHourSeconds switch pSign case it is - put (psecs - tOffsetHourSeconds ) into pSecs break default put (tOffsetHourSeconds + pSecs ) into pSecs end switch return pSecs end setOffset /blockquote On 6 September 2010 09:45, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca wrote: Hi Stephen, Just to add to Andre's tip, I've found the setting and getting of cookies to be extremely finicky. One thing that tripped me up for about four hours was the placement of ?rev in scripts. It must appear in the very first line of any script involving cookies. Leave a blank first line, and it is possible that everything in a script will work except for things having to do with cookies! Gregory, That is not an actual bug but a design behaviour. RevServer engine will output things as soon as it can, meaning that the blank line will be sent as is back to apache server as soon as your script starts executing. HTTP Headers must be sent to apache before actual output is sent, so if you have a blank line on top of your file, that is treated by the engine as hey you want to output a blank line, fine! and thus all the subsequent put header calls will fail since apache will pick that blank line and start outputing everyting as content and not as headers. RevServer will start the flush output process if it finds anything that is not enclosed into a ?rev tag or if it finds the closing ? tag. So if you start your code with a ?rev but closes it with a ? and then the output will also begin. This is good to know because of includes, if you put ? in your includes, the very act of including a file will start the output. So take those ? out of the include files. Before anyone ask why this is so it is because PHP engine does it this way and we decided to copy them. Regards, Gregory -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] revObjective 1.0 released!
I think it needs some more testing outside of your environment. I had major name space problems had to force-quit. sqb On 6 September 2010 18:22, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Heres the right link. http://goulding.ws/?file_id=11 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Monte, the download link is wrong! ;-) Congratulations, want to check it out! Cheers andre On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Everyone I've just released a new plugin that people who create or want to use custom controls with behavior scripts might find helpful. For more info go to: http://goulding.ws/consulting/blog/ Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] revObjective 1.0 released!
I opened a fresh stack and tried to move a placed object on your stack, but was interrupted by the 'another stack with the same name error and got into that dreaded loop. Had to force-quit. mIght you have a stack named 'untitled' somewhere in your project? sqb On 6 September 2010 18:32, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: I think it needs some more testing outside of your environment. I had major name space problems had to force-quit. Ok, can you give me some more info? sqb On 6 September 2010 18:22, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Heres the right link. http://goulding.ws/?file_id=11 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Monte, the download link is wrong! ;-) Congratulations, want to check it out! Cheers andre On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Everyone I've just released a new plugin that people who create or want to use custom controls with behavior scripts might find helpful. For more info go to: http://goulding.ws/consulting/blog/ Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] revObjective 1.0 released!
You also don't have to include your tRev backup archives with the package, which probably increased the size a bit. sqb On 6 September 2010 19:00, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: I think I've got it, I did some drag and drop stuff for pulling the stack files out of the revObjective folder before I implemented the drag and drop of objects to the stacks and they are messing with each other so I'll pull out the files one because it's easy enough to open up the revObjective folder if you want to get your files. I'll post a new version ASAP. On 07/09/2010, at 11:54 AM, stephen barncard wrote: I opened a fresh stack and tried to move a placed object on your stack, but was interrupted by the 'another stack with the same name error and got into that dreaded loop. Had to force-quit. mIght you have a stack named 'untitled' somewhere in your project? sqb On 6 September 2010 18:32, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I think it needs some more testing outside of your environment. I had major name space problems had to force-quit. Ok, can you give me some more info? sqb On 6 September 2010 18:22, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Heres the right link. http://goulding.ws/?file_id=11 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Monte, the download link is wrong! ;-) Congratulations, want to check it out! Cheers andre On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Everyone I've just released a new plugin that people who create or want to use custom controls with behavior scripts might find helpful. For more info go to: http://goulding.ws/consulting/blog/ Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cookies again: Expiry Date
I am still having trouble dealing with the effective use of setting and clearing cookies properly using the Revolution server at On-Rev. put new header Set-Cookie: one=datavalue put new header Set-Cookie: two=datavalue2 Yes, that sets the values that can be recovered, but to delete the cookie by attempting to set an early expiry date seems to fail every time. put new header Set-Cookie: two=datavalue2 ; expires=May 5,2010; put Set-Cookie: tln = urlEncode(pArray[tln]) ; expires= (March 24, 2012) ; path=/; into theCookie put new header theCookie I have been around and around to all the forums and see the same posts about getting put new header to work last year but nothing about actual success setting the expiry date. PHP makes it easy: ?php $value = my cookie value; // send a cookie that expires in 24 hours setcookie(TestCookie,$value, time()+3600*24); ? Tested, PHP works, just like this. Sets the date, too. In Rev it's as if the put new header command truncates the other parameters. Surely someone here has a solution to this in RevTalk. thanks sqb -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cookies again: Expiry Date
That was it. The date format. Thanks very much, Andre. sqb On 5 September 2010 13:49, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Stephen, I think you are using the wrong date format for the cookie. From wikipedia: The expiration date tells the browser when to delete the cookie. The expiration date is specified in the Wdy, DD-Mon- HH:MM:SS GMT format. As an example, the following is a cookie sent by a Web server (the value string has been changed): Set-Cookie: RMID=732423sdfs73242; expires=Fri, 31-Dec-2010 23:59:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.example.net That format is similar to the internet date but it is not the internet date. I think you will need to assemble that out of the dateitems or something. Other way is to encode your cookie value such as it carries expiry information on the value field itself. For example Set-Cookie: one=valueone#1283719646; Then on your code you split it using # as a itemdelimiter. valueone is your actual value, the number after the hash is the seconds, an exact timestamp of when the cookie was set. You can use that on your code to invalidate a cookie if needed. This puts the control of expiration on your hands. Andre On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:28 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I am still having trouble dealing with the effective use of setting and clearing cookies properly using the Revolution server at On-Rev. put new header Set-Cookie: one=datavalue put new header Set-Cookie: two=datavalue2 Yes, that sets the values that can be recovered, but to delete the cookie by attempting to set an early expiry date seems to fail every time. put new header Set-Cookie: two=datavalue2 ; expires=May 5,2010; put Set-Cookie: tln = urlEncode(pArray[tln]) ; expires= (March 24, 2012) ; path=/; into theCookie put new header theCookie I have been around and around to all the forums and see the same posts about getting put new header to work last year but nothing about actual success setting the expiry date. PHP makes it easy: ?php $value = my cookie value; // send a cookie that expires in 24 hours setcookie(TestCookie,$value, time()+3600*24); ? Tested, PHP works, just like this. Sets the date, too. In Rev it's as if the put new header command truncates the other parameters. Surely someone here has a solution to this in RevTalk. thanks sqb -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu Accelerators - help!
Swami, can't you just Suspend Developer Tools in the Developer menu? On 5 September 2010 19:29, Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org wrote: For some reason, I've never been able to get menu accelerator keys to work as expected. the dictionary entry on this makes sense, but could use some examples. Seems straight forward enough... The syntax for menu item strings is: [flags] label ['/' accelerator ['|' tag]] where accelerator would be, in my case: modifiers char A very common requirement is Find and Find Again. This looks correct to me: Find/^ F Find Again/^G The menu shows the cmd symbol (os x) and the letter, but cmd-f does nothing but invoke the IDE's find dialog; if I turn of development tools, it still does not work. I tried these, since the IDE does not use them... as a test... Find/^U Find Again/^L But they are still unresponsive... and, if you enter an upper case character, does that mean the user has to use the shift key to make it work? I tried both, cmd-shift-U and cmd-U. neither work. What am I missing? Will these *only* work in a standalone? Thanks Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Deleting all cookies with On-Rev
I seem to be having difficulty in deleting cookies by script. Those little buggers seem to persist forever, and I can't seem to get the syntax right or something. I know one method is to set the expire dates back in time. Is there a shortcut method to delete a *group* at a time? Either way, I can't seem to destroy them. I know someone here has 'been there and done that'. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
