Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Bill, As it turns out this is a known bug (3375), which was submitted by someone else. Jacque suggested that there is something odd with the way that the script editor receives the focus. Giving the focus to another window or application and then bringing it back to the script editor seems to resolve the issue. I'm turning my hacking attention to the script editor anyway, so I'm going to see if I can figure out what's going on. It could be an engine problem, but according to the comments in 3375, it appears that RR seems to think it's a script editor problem. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Ok, good! So now all we gotta do is get you to join the beta test ;) Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, As it turns out this is a known bug (3375), which was submitted by someone else. [...] I'm turning my hacking attention to the script editor anyway, so I'm going to see if I can figure out what's going on. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
I am in the beta test. I've already submitted a bunch of bugs and suggestions. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Ooops, there you are. You were actually among the first 40 applicants! Mikey wrote I am in the beta test. I've already submitted a bunch of bugs and suggestions. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Mikey, I tried to replicate your problem with Revolution 2.7.5. beta 1 on Mac and Windows but it worked as expected for me. 1) Revolution version? 2) Are you signed up for the beta? (apparently not at your gmail address) 3) If no, why not? ;) Go to http://support.runrev.com/beta_test.php 4) If yes, can you check the behavior against 2.7.5 beta 1? 5) If the problem still exists, does it occur only with your HyperCard-era stack? Or with new stacks as well? 6) If it's just the old stack, can you please file a report and attach the stack? 7) If it happens on new stacks, can you please generate a system profile report and attach that along with the steps required to reproduce the problem? Thanks in advance, Bill Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to edit a script. However, when I open the script editor with edit the script of this stack (which I'm only using because I'm trying to test a HC-era hack), the text cursor doesn't appear, and the text editor behaves...badly. Is this known or new? Second, if I open the script using the Object Menu, and hit enter to terminate a line (it doesn't matter if it's the enter on the main part of the kb or the numeric enter) the script closes. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
I'm still waiting for a suggestion on how to modify the behavior. On a windoze box the return key is also labeled an enter key. In my case what I mean is that the return key behaves like the enter key, but ONLY IN RR. I know this because I have other development tools that have different behaviors for the keys, but they behave as I would expect. Mike. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Although it's called enter on your physical keyboard, the return key is indeed the return key. The enter key in rev is the keypad's enter key only. To catch any use the messages: on returnkey on enterkey or on rawkeydown k put chartonum(k) you'll see the difference... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikey Sent: Wednesday, 15 November, 2006 15:55 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: UGH! Cursor, enter problems I'm still waiting for a suggestion on how to modify the behavior. On a windoze box the return key is also labeled an enter key. In my case what I mean is that the return key behaves like the enter key, but ONLY IN RR. I know this because I have other development tools that have different behaviors for the keys, but they behave as I would expect. Mike. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
I understand the difference. However, RR script editor isn't behaving as if there is a difference. I have just rebooted my XP box for the third time in three days, and the behavior has not changed. I think we old-timers are more apt to refer to them as the Return and Enter keys, but the kids these days... -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Mikey wrote: I'm still waiting for a suggestion on how to modify the behavior. On a windoze box the return key is also labeled an enter key. An unfortunate decision, given that the computer keyboard was based on the typewriter, where Return physically moved the carriage to return the page to the left margin to start a new line. How PC manufacturers managed to forget what Return means is a mystery to me, but they've repeated that mistake so consistently that now we live in a world where most young folks have never seen a typewriter in use, and they generally don't understand that Enter near the home row triggers a different code than Enter on the numeric pad. :( So cross-platform software developers have lost what could have been a useful distinction. In my case what I mean is that the return key behaves like the enter key, but ONLY IN RR. I know this because I have other development tools that have different behaviors for the keys, but they behave as I would expect. On Windows? Mac keyboards continue to label the Return key correctly, allowing software developers to distinguish it easily for their users. But how does a Windows developer tell a user to press the Return key when it's mistakenly labeled something else? -- Richard Gaskin On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the deserts. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little backpacking in Joshua Tree. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
On 11/15/06 11:31 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although it's called enter on your physical keyboard, the return key is indeed the return key. The enter key in rev is the keypad's enter key only. Actually, Xavier, Mike tried both - his original post: Second, if I open the script using the Object Menu, and hit enter to terminate a line (it doesn't matter if it's the enter on the main part of the kb or the numeric enter) the script closes. It's possible it may be a keyboard configuration issue. I know on some Mac laptops for example, you can simulate a true enter by holding down the Fn key and hitting the Return key on the keyboard. I'm thinking that perhaps there's some config that lets you map one to another. Mike, what computer/os are you getting this on? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
On 15 Nov 2006, at 17:46, Ken Ray wrote: I know on some Mac laptops for example, you can simulate a true enter by holding down the Fn key and hitting the Return key on the keyboard. I believe that's only one pretty old models, or maybe only in certain countries. Every UK Mac laptop I've seen for about six years has had both a Return key and an Enter key (in place of the right Alt key). Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
This is an HP Pavillion zd7000 lappie - but it is a 17, so it has it's own built-in keypad as well as the traditional return key (which, as we all know has been called Enter in the Windoze world since...geez. It's been since almost the beginning. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
ok, I keep getting this tip cue wrong... Can't read it all since digg.com got in my cyberfeeds! but I tried... object menu - card script script editor window opens, a line is selected... I press return, the line is replaced with the return I press control-Z, nothing happens I go to the script editors' edit menu and choose undo nothing happens... I click on revert to breathe again... had I pressed the enterkey... the script window goes away (90-70% of the time assuming you didn't press any keys after it opened - it still asks you to save the script, I know, I've got it at least 3 billion times)... you're either not using windows, got a weird frontscript somewhere or your keyboard's control key is stuck (pound it a few times)... All I could find... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Wednesday, 15 November, 2006 18:47 To: Use Revolution List Subject: Re: UGH! Cursor, enter problems On 11/15/06 11:31 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although it's called enter on your physical keyboard, the return key is indeed the return key. The enter key in rev is the keypad's enter key only. Actually, Xavier, Mike tried both - his original post: Second, if I open the script using the Object Menu, and hit enter to terminate a line (it doesn't matter if it's the enter on the main part of the kb or the numeric enter) the script closes. It's possible it may be a keyboard configuration issue. I know on some Mac laptops for example, you can simulate a true enter by holding down the Fn key and hitting the Return key on the keyboard. I'm thinking that perhaps there's some config that lets you map one to another. Mike, what computer/os are you getting this on? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
Further, it appears when I use edit the script of this stack that the script is read-only. It doesn't colorize or format either. After getting everything shut down and restarted (including the machine, in case there was something stupid going on in the OS that was causing the enter issue) I finally resorted to get the script of this stack put return after char 4 of it set the script of this stack to it However, it would be nice if I didn't have to (in effect) write my own script editor to edit scripts... -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AAAAUGH! Cursor, enter problems
On 11/14/06, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, if I open the script using the Object Menu, and hit enter to terminate a line (it doesn't matter if it's the enter on the main part of the kb or the numeric enter) the script closes. You might want to check your preferences. For me (on a Mac) I have to use the return key to terminate a line. If I 'edit' a script and use the 'Enter' key, it will 'Apply' the changes, if I then hit the 'Enter' key again, or if in the first case the script had not been amended, then the script window will be closed. I'm sure you can vary this behaviour in Rev's preferences. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
