Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Sorry, can't sell to those in California w/out some ridiculous out-of-state alphabet tax. Maybe an email to Arnold would help...course I hear he's been trying to buy vowels for sometime now :-) Mark Wieder wrote: Chipp- Monday, August 8, 2005, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote: DHTML, XML and CSS.

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread Dan Shafer
He actually cornered the market on vowels and then re-defined it as a shortage. Gotta give him props. If you don't, he busts your head. Dan On Aug 8, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Sorry, can't sell to those in California w/out some ridiculous out- of-state alphabet tax. Maybe an

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On 09.08.2005, at 08:14, Chipp Walters wrote: Sorry, can't sell to those in California w/out some ridiculous out- of-state alphabet tax. Maybe an email to Arnold would help... pls donĀ“t, even the smalles insult could force him going back to Austria... brr!! ==;o( regards Wolfgang

RE: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread MisterX
Marielle said, Hi Geoff, Yes, the topic is very hot. Everybody is moving in that direction: The proof by the absurd! Well done Marielle! So many choices, so many unsecure issues on the net... as we know, revolutions (not an intented pun but an interesting meme twister agent) happen in a

RE: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread Marielle Lange
The proof by the absurd! Well done Marielle! You show a good ability to read between the lines :-). I have been reading a huge deal on web applications recently. Honestly, it made me anxious about the future of revolution. My thoughts are that rev needs a new graphic engine below the new

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-09 Thread Charles Hartman
On Aug 9, 2005, at 7:18 PM, Marielle Lange wrote: I wonder, what has been the oohhh, this is interesting moment for the new users on this list. My 2 more cents: I think elsewhere in your post you put your finger on part of the problem. Many people on the list came to Rev from Hypercard.

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Marielle Lange
Hi Geoff, Yes, the topic is very hot. Everybody is moving in that direction: Macromedia, Flex: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/ Creating applications with Mozilla: http://basic.mozillanews.org/mozilla_book/ Konfabulator is now free (bought by Yahoo a week ago):

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Dan Shafer
And the guys who started much of this, from whom Macromedia appears to have essentially lifted not only technology but staff: http://www.laszlosystems.com I'm still trying to figure out how Rev could play a role in this; creating the UIs in flex and laszlo require text editing. Yuk.

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Aug 8, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: And the guys who started much of this, from whom Macromedia appears to have essentially lifted not only technology but staff: http://www.laszlosystems.com I'm still trying to figure out how Rev could play a role in this; creating the UIs in

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Amen, brother Trevor! On Aug 8, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: The Revolution approach of being able to interact with your controls and data in the dev environment is such a time saver IMO. ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Peter T. Evensen
What I don't understand is why is Laszlo and Flex better than using Flash? Flash lets you lay things out graphically. Flex and Laszlo are text descriptions that are compiled into flash. To me, it is easier to layout a screen than to try to describe it in text. At 01:38 PM 8/8/2005, you

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Aug 8, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: What I don't understand is why is Laszlo and Flex better than using Flash? Flash lets you lay things out graphically. Flex and Laszlo are text descriptions that are compiled into flash. To me, it is easier to layout a screen than to try

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Chipp Walters
Here's your reason...their address. San Mateo, CA 94403 Don't you know by now, any technology in Silicon Valley is automatically hyped by 2 orders of magnitude? Heck, this AJAX stuff was going on over 2 years ago, it's just now some guy from San Francisco says it's cool. LOL, I'm just a

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Sivakatirswami
This craving to make everything work inside a browser... endless building of complex contraptions to split a piece of wood, just wire two machines together and use an axe. I wonder how much actual real content these people ever deploy over a given 365 day period... Meanwhile looking at

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Monday, August 8, 2005, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote: DHTML, XML and CSS. I don't know, Chipp - I've always had trouble pronouncing those. Can I buy a vowel? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list

[Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-07 Thread Geoff Canyon
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php It's about AJAX -- Asynchronous Javascript And XML. It talks about the ability to create apps like gmail and google maps, and makes an interesting companion piece to http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/netapps.html

Re: [Semi-OT] Interesting article

2005-08-07 Thread Dan Shafer
Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, Geoff. I was vaguely aware of the existence of this approach but this article made it much clearer and more coherent. I know JavaScript at least as well as I know Transcript, probably better. But the absence of decent IDEs for graphical

Semi-OT: Interesting article on Java

2003-11-14 Thread Geoff Canyon
Talking about J2EE and the things it needs to do to succeed. He says it needs two things: to be easier to use -- he calls it incredibly complex -- and to add new features at a faster pace -- he says it currently takes a year to two years to get anything through the standards process.