In particular I am looking at using Amazon - either their
SimpleDBhttp://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2552categoryID=146,
or their Relational Database
Servicehttp://aws.amazon.com/rds/?ref_=pe_8050_15319810,
but maybe also Google equivalent services? Anyone
heh heh. The SQL would practically kill you, and we need you programming in Rev
these days.
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
oh and this is to the Brazilian public, I don't think we send anything
overseas... it is mostly promotions and ads for big shops and companies in
Thanks for the pointer Mark - seems comparable price wise. I think as I am
looking for the easiest migration strategy from small community cheap
start-up costs to global scalability - I'd prefer either the ability to use
MySQL, or the simplicity of SimpleDB (which is also free for a basic
Ruslan,
Thanks for the quick reply. I am commenting your comments mixed in the quote
below. I also have a shot to claim my deadliest database schema record
Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping
some
rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no
I thought this was EXACTLY what SQL was created to do?
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Now, check out this screen shot I just took:
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/shots/msdb.jpg
This is ONE MASSIVE DATABASE with mind melting amount of information, tables
with 55
Warning, bad analogy on the way...
That's kind of like observing a truck full of loose boulders ready to fly out
the back. Isn't that what trucks are for, carrying heavy loads?
Point being that yes, SQL is one means towards managing large amounts of
tables, rows, data, etc -- but it still
I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one.
Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and
that we send about 10 million emails per day... it all comes from that
database you saw. 6 thousand tables governing the process of mailing and
tracking 10 Million
SO YOU are the one sending me all that junk mail!
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
I need a sanity check for many reasons, that is one.
Just imagine that I am working on a company that sends email marketing and
that we send about 10 million emails per day... it
guilt as charged... but our doubleoptout works, so people can actually
unsubscribe. We just provide the system to some really big companies here,
think wall mart big (Actually wall mart is one of the customers and
responsible for 2,5 million emails)
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bob Sneidar
oh and this is to the Brazilian public, I don't think we send anything
overseas... it is mostly promotions and ads for big shops and companies in
here...
now, if you think I am sending you email, you can send me your email and I
will search the 55 Million email database to check if you're in any
Andre,
If you mean by this that the bottleneck is READ access for sending the emails,
would replication be an option? You could set up a second slave DB which
shouldn't affect WRITE much unless you are already saturated on that end as
well. Then when you need that burst of data, just alternate
On 19/5/10 9:36 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
Hi Andre,
Ok I see.
So we agree that Valentina can be used, of course,
for WEB development in any way including Revolution,
What you cannot now is to use vserver with rev-online service.
I think that David is doing some web
On 19/5/10 9:47 PM, Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com wrote:
Warning, bad analogy on the way...
That's kind of like observing a truck full of loose boulders ready to fly out
the back. Isn't that what trucks are for, carrying heavy loads?
Point being that yes, SQL is one means towards
On 19/5/10 10:04 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
Can valentina hold 6k tables and millions and millions of records? I could
create a portable version of this system, almost a portable nightmare.
In theory there is no limits.
I have hear about 50-100GB dbs on Valentina.
With many
I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scaleable back end
database. One with low up front costs and yet won;t fall over if it suddenly
takes off. I've noticed Jerry and others describing On-Rev in terms of
cloud storage - but AFAIK it is a simple shared host, and there are no
David,
I've been looking at the same things. I am a user of Amazon S3 and I made
tests with SDB as well (not from rev at this time).
Depending on the data you want to store, you might want to check out the
following noSQL databases:
* CouchDB http://couchdb.apache.org/
* MongoDB
Thanks Andre:
On 18 May 2010 13:18, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
* CouchDB http://couchdb.apache.org/
* MongoDB http://www.mongodb.org/ (there's a mongo db hosting service at
MongoHQ )
* Cassandra http://cassandra.apache.org/
* Riak http://riak.basho.com/
I think it is only
On 18/5/10 4:04 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote:
Hi All,
* I wonder if anybody from you going to setup your own 1000 computer-servers
cluster(s)? Like this must do Google and Amazon
If not - then excuse me, guys you have completely different tasks than
google.
* Andrea
Ruslan,
Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some
rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for
revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if
we had RevServer support or at least a public available
on Tue May 18 06:23:14 CDT 2010, David Bovill wrote:
I'm looking into an application which needs a highly scalable back end
database.
David, have you checked out Microsoft's Azure cloud services?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/sqlazure/
Here's some info I copied from that page:
SQL
Hi Andre,
Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is
stopping some rev developers moving to valentina is that
there's no valentina server for revServer. The FREE Valentina
server has adaptors only for ruby and php, if we had
RevServer support or at least a public
On 18/5/10 4:48 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
Hi Andre,
Thanks for dropping in the thread. One thing that I think is stopping some
rev developers moving to valentina is that there's no valentina server for
revServer. The FREE Valentina server has adaptors only for ruby and
Not sure if this would help but Mark Smith created a Rev library for working
with S3:
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-libS3-td326689.html#a326
689
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design
Recently, David Bovill wrote:
I'm looking into an
My elephant skates quite well. I just could never teach him to stop!
Bob
On May 18, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
RDBMS are quite complex tools and sometimes they are used for the wrong job
and then designing table schemas become like trying to teach an elephant to
ice skate, if
On May 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
My elephant skates quite well. I just could never teach him to stop!
Bob
Ahhh, but can it do a camel ?
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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