Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Maybe the DC Player is just not well understood or described. There's precious little in the docs about it. I found, e.g., that if I copy the Player and put it into a folder outside the Rev app folder and put a Rev stack in the same folder, the following behavior is true: 1. Double-clicki

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Dom
Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, this does NOT happen if you open the player by double- > clicking the stack. (This assumes that, under OSX for instance, the > stack's "Open With" is set to the Player rather than to Dreamcard.) But -- this is exactly what I am doing!!

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Dom
J. Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Macs, the Online Viewer will display if you leave the Player in the > same folder as the IDE. If you move the Player outside that folder, Rev > Online will not open. Thanks, that does the trick! :-) But -- if the changes in my stack are correctly s

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dom wrote: It runs nicely, excepted for this d* "revOnline Viewer" which pops every time ;-> On Macs, the Online Viewer will display if you leave the Player in the same folder as the IDE. If you move the Player outside that folder, Rev Online will not open. I thought it was the same

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Peter T. Evensen
BZ 2379 is close to this. It deals with turning off the RevOnline. For my money, what it should do is present a dialog with two buttons (perhaps nice large pictures, like RevOnline): "Open a Stack from Online" and "Open a Stack on Your Computer" The first would bring up the RevOnline viewer

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Peter T. Evensen wrote: It was my understanding that the online viewer launches in the Player every time, because there is NO OTHER WAY to open a stack! Again I say this is bad UI design. Unless you know to hit the folder icon, you don't know how to open your stack file. There are other wa

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Roger . E . Eller
> It was my understanding that the online viewer launches in the Player every > time, because there is NO OTHER WAY to open a stack! Again I say this is > bad UI design. Unless you know to hit the folder icon, you don't know how > to open your stack file. You can also just drag a .rev stack o

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Charles Hartman
By the way, this does NOT happen if you open the player by double- clicking the stack. (This assumes that, under OSX for instance, the stack's "Open With" is set to the Player rather than to Dreamcard.) So that's as it should be. But the user ought to be able to do it the other way (start th

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Charles Hartman
Hear, hear! If you want to BZ this, I'll certainly vote for it. Charles Hartman On Aug 9, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: It was my understanding that the online viewer launches in the Player every time, because there is NO OTHER WAY to open a stack! Again I say this is bad U

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Peter T. Evensen
It was my understanding that the online viewer launches in the Player every time, because there is NO OTHER WAY to open a stack! Again I say this is bad UI design. Unless you know to hit the folder icon, you don't know how to open your stack file. Most Players I've seen, if they don't receiv

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Dom wrote: It runs nicely, excepted for this d* "revOnline Viewer" which pops every time ;-> In the IDE - menu Edit / Preferences / General - uncheck "Automatically launch RevOnline" In the Player - click on Rev logo (top-right) and check either "Never check for updates" or "Check up

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Dom
Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DreamCard will, I suspect, play an increasing role in their revenue > model as they bring online ways for people like you to deploy stacks > to others who have the Player and pick up a little toll booth fee > along the way. Pardon me for jumping in the

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-09 Thread Dan Shafer
David Welcome to the Revolution from YAHR (Yet Another HyperCard Refugee). You're gonna love it over here. I feel the same way you do: RunRev *could* charge a LOT more for this product and justify it. But it's a competitive marketplace with lots of free and Open Source tools and techn

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-08 Thread David Bakody
Thanks for the help. It looks like this group ended up making another sale. The only thing I don't quite get is how this company can make any money on a product that in some ways should cost far more. I'm not complaining, but the revenue stream for such a product can't be anything to get exc

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-08 Thread Bill Vlahos
David, Welcome to the Revolution. I believe you are pretty much the exact market for DreamCard. It should do nicely for you. Being able to create standalone applications is great and if you decide you want to be able to do that later you can simply upgrade then. There are some other advanta

Re: Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-08 Thread Charles Hartman
Others can give you an informed opinion -- I can offer one from somebody in a position like yours. I'm developing some moderately large tutorial stacks that my and my colleagues' students will download, along with a Windows or OSX Player. I've experimented enough to be confident that Dreamc

Noob: Amazed yet confused - Dreamcard vs Revolution

2005-08-08 Thread David Bakody
Hello to this amazing group: I stumbled onto Dreamcard after linking to a forum posting regarding a review of the most recent release of RealBASIC on OSNews. One thing led to another and now here I am. I've been playing with the eval of Dreamcard and am amazed yet confused. On the one hand