On 14 Nov 2006, at 15:09, Bernard Devlin wrote:
Dave said:
I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about trying to sell it to a
whole programming department that is currently using a mix of Macs,
Windows and Linux machines and programming tools such as C/C++,
RealBasic, AppleScript, XML, PDF,
On 14 Nov 2006, at 20:12, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
As far as I am concerned, with Rev the glass is certainly more than
half-full. In fact, if I had the money I'd be trying to buy the
company.
I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about trying to sell
it to a whole programming department that
On 14 Nov 2006, at 22:21, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
That's very interesting - I had no idea that Rev was
receiving any mainstream coverage as a platform. I'll have
to take a look at that book next time I'm in a bookshop. Now
that I think of it, it is obvious that any book that was
really
Dave said:
The point is that all those technologies could be replaced by RunRev
and the whole system would be much more stable. They are finding it
really hard to find the right people because of all the different
technologies and tools involved. In short it would be much better and
reliable to
Dave said:
I can't believe you called me pessimistic! I find this post to very
pessimistic basically saying it's a toy, don't try to make it
mainstream, give up now cos it will never happen!
Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't call you pessimistic,
and I didn't say Rev was a toy.
On 15 Nov 2006, at 13:28, Bernard Devlin wrote:
Dave said:
The point is that all those technologies could be replaced by RunRev
and the whole system would be much more stable. They are finding it
really hard to find the right people because of all the different
technologies and tools
On 15 Nov 2006, at 13:29, Bernard Devlin wrote:
Dave said:
I can't believe you called me pessimistic! I find this post to very
pessimistic basically saying it's a toy, don't try to make it
mainstream, give up now cos it will never happen!
Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't call
Bernard Devlin wrote:
For those who want Rev to have a higher profile, I hope 1 day
to see some amazing product or technique that will give us all a sense
of smugness.
One of my clients is taking our work to MacWorld this January. He says
he wants to win best of show. While I doubt that will
Bernard, I really admire your passion for Rev, but may I suggest that
you may be reading Dave stronger than he writes? I've been reading his
posts carefully, and I believe we may have another Bill Marriott in the
making here:
I used to misread Bill's posts as being more critical than they
There are times when C/C++ is the only way to go. But there are
specific advantages to a product like Revolution, and one
of them is
the ability to whip out a prototype or custom utility very, very
quickly, and deploy it on multiple operating systems - very, very
quickly on runs
Richard,
I respectfully disagree with some of the points made.
Dave specifically stated:
The problem is that when they read the sales small print (in this case)
and see support is not included.
I believe he was referring to his company's Enterprise developers and
management when he said
On 15 Nov 2006, at 20:49, Chipp Walters wrote:
Richard,
I respectfully disagree with some of the points made.
Dave specifically stated:
The problem is that when they read the sales small print (in this
case)
and see support is not included.
I believe he was referring to his company's
Chipp wrote:
Richard,
I respectfully disagree with some of the points made.
...
Support fees are widespread in Enterprise-- especially in software
development.
I suppose so, but I didn't write about Rev's support.
I replied to the comments about upgrade fees:
Yep, Dave seems to confuse the concept of upgrades vs support. He tends to
use them interchangeably, when arguably, they are not.
On 11/15/06, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suppose so, but I didn't write about Rev's support.
I replied to the comments about upgrade fees:
I asked:
Is there some kind of deal on Rev
On 11/15/06, Lynn Fredricks reponded:
Aha, that would be telling! ;-)
On 11/15/06 Sarah Reichelt did some snooping:
According to the web page
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0470088702,subcat-PROGRAMMING.html
,
this is
On 11/16/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a lighter note, Chris and I were compiling our list of
You know you're an Enterprise Developer when...
...
8. When someone's says Mac your first thought is add fries with that
gee, and I thought: 00:d9:95:0a:bd:d0 :-)
On 11/15/06, Kay C Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
On 11/15/06, Lynn Fredricks reponded:
Aha, that would be telling! ;-)
Lynn responded to Sarah with:
Its not telling the whole story there :-)
Give it a day or two, I'm sure Lynn will point us to the answer over at the
rev forums ;-)
On 10 Nov 2006, at 17:44, Bernard Devlin wrote:
Dave said:
then RunRev will stop growing and eventually die.
I think that these kind of doomsday prognostications are
particularly unhelpful. Do you have any evidence that Runrev's
financial position is suffering?
Just going by my past
Dave said:
I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about trying to sell it to a
whole programming department that is currently using a mix of Macs,
Windows and Linux machines and programming tools such as C/C++,
RealBasic, AppleScript, XML, PDF, PERL, JavaScript, etc.
But why are you trying to
As far as I am concerned, with Rev the glass is certainly more than
half-full. In fact, if I had the money I'd be trying to buy the
company.
I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about trying to sell
it to a whole programming department that is currently using
a mix of Macs,
Lynn said:
Just point them to the wildly popular Wiley Publisher's Dummies book:
Beginning Programming for Dummies 4th Edition recently released where
Revolution receives a lot of coverage, esp compared to ALL of the above.
That's very interesting - I had no idea that Rev was receiving any
That's very interesting - I had no idea that Rev was
receiving any mainstream coverage as a platform. I'll have
to take a look at that book next time I'm in a bookshop. Now
that I think of it, it is obvious that any book that was
really interested in getting someone started with
On 11/15/06, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only three languages are covered in the book - one is Rev and yes, its
treated very favorably :-) Wally Wang has been working on this revision
for
over a year.
Is there some kind of deal on Rev as well (Free 2.2.1 license?) Whenever
I've
Is there some kind of deal on Rev as well (Free 2.2.1
license?) Whenever
I've purchased this kind of book before there's always been
some kind of
restricted use product (Codewarrior/RB) with deals on
upgrading to the full
package.
Aha, that would be telling! ;-) Once must acquire the
Only three languages are covered in the book - one is Rev and yes, its
treated very favorably :-) Wally Wang has been working on this revision
for
over a year.
Is there some kind of deal on Rev as well (Free 2.2.1 license?) Whenever
I've purchased this kind of book before there's always been
According to the web page
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-047008
8702,subcat-PROGRAMMING.html,
this is what comes with the book:
Liberty BASIC, REALbasic, Dev-C++, Valentina, Galaxy, and
Revolution Studio demo versions
Its not telling the whole story there :-)
Best
This is REALLY lovely news!
Gotta go buy that book! If nothing else, I can show it to my department
the next time I ask..., er, beg, them for new Rev licenses for my lab :-D
Judy
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Is there some kind of deal on Rev as well (Free 2.2.1
license?)
Dave said:
then RunRev will stop growing and eventually die.
I think that these kind of doomsday prognostications are particularly
unhelpful. Do you have any evidence that Runrev's financial position
is suffering? As far as I can see, Runrev are going from strength to
strength. Do
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