Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread David Bovill
Hi Jerry, I'm still reading about Rodeo and trying to evaluate whether to take the plunge. there are a couple of things I don't quite get: 1. The web apps being served by On-Rev: Rodeo server is a highly-scaleable, secure, n-tier architected cloud solution. So there is no way to author

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Of course it's still early days, but we are very serious about having a scaleable backend service. Since one of us is in Australia, we also want geographic coverage. Every day this sector of our industry gets better. Massively shared servers? No. Deals for dedicated servers? Yes. We want

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread David Bovill
On 20 May 2010 14:27, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Of course it's still early days, but we are very serious about having a scaleable backend service. Since one of us is in Australia, we also want geographic coverage. Every day this sector of our industry gets better. Massively

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
I've worked on several projects with massive numbers of simultaneous users and hits against data. Did this for Nortel, a broadband wireless company and another small telecom. The trick is to know where to scale the hardware and where to put the data and where to put the logic. Look at it

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread David Bovill
On 20 May 2010 16:55, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: The cheapest, most scalable and fastest performing are all the same solution: 1. Client: thin 2. Web server: thin, but round-robin'd the IP addresses to 1 of the 13 app servers 3. Web app server: hefty, almost fat 4. Data:

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Andre Garzia
David, I don't think you'll reach problems of scalability that easily. Twitter and Facebook have scalability issues, you'll probably be fine for months before reaching scaling issues even if you're really successful. Don't think a single server with a single database is no good for your needs.

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
Years ago, i did test an XServe G4 running a Sybase ASE 12.5 and went able to get 1500 web served requests / secs without any server's stress at all. And as anyone should know, OS X Server is lots less responsive than Linux or BSD. 2 cents, Best, Pierre Le 20 mai 2010 à 18:49, Andre Garzia a

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
I think you miss understand what I'm saying or your experiences don't match my own. What I suggest is not expensive and is, in effect, what most n-tier architected solutions do. I learned from a couple guys who invented data access via a stateless browser. But what do they know? You might be

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Absolutely. Best, Jerry Daniels Create iPad web apps with Rodeo: http://rodeoapps.com On May 20, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: You're probably safe on On-Rev or Rodeo or whatever is invented soon ___ use-revolution

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, Not sure if there was a Rodeo question or something in there, but I will try to clarify, etc. Rodeo is not a hosting package. We host your LIST code and translate it into iPad web app pages. You don't get an ftp addess or anything like that, so, no it's not a standard On-Rev

Re: Rodeo: 2 questions

2010-05-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- Thursday, May 20, 2010, 9:49:57 AM, you wrote: David, I don't think you'll reach problems of scalability that easily. Twitter and Facebook have scalability issues, you'll probably be fine for months before reaching scaling issues even if you're really successful. Twitter, Digg,

Cloud databases and scalability (was Rodeo: 2 questions)

2010-05-20 Thread David Bovill
On 20 May 2010 21:52, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Twitter, Digg, Reddit, etc are indeed reaching the scalability limits of their databases, and are moving into the NOSQL world of Cassandra, Hadoop, CouchDB... but you need to up at the level of shoveling around petabytes of data