Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 14 May 2005, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have to do to display text in addition to storing it. This topic has come up a few times lately, so I decided it was time

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
Sarah, Did you try also with a hidden field? cheers Xavier On 17.05.2005 08:26:40 use-revolution-bounces wrote: On 14 May 2005, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Here are my test results: using a field740 ticks using a field (with locked screen)405 ticks using a field from sub stack230 ticks using a field from a sub stack locking the screen235 ticks The sub-stack's window was not open for these tests. Opening it made

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try also with a hidden field? In my earlier tests the times for a hidden field were not much different than for a visible one. Tuviah that the bigger difference is whether a field is on an open card or not, as even hidden fields on open cards are initialized

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using a custom property 1.9 ticks using a custom property with messages locked 0.3 ticks This is almost 2500 times faster than the field method! so is the custom property in RAM and the field contents on the hard drive? [EMAIL

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Erik Hansen wrote: --- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using a custom property 1.9 ticks using a custom property with messages locked 0.3 ticks This is almost 2500 times faster than the field method! so is the custom property in RAM and the field contents on the hard drive? When a

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try also with a hidden field? I have now :-) For the same test, hiding the field first brought the time down to about 500 ticks i.e. not as fast as just locking the screen. When using the sub-stack, it made no difference. BTW, in case anyone actually tries the

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
Maybe we should make a machine benchmark stack to test all the rev features across all platforms and cpu configurations... Another use for an sql engine maybe (although Im working on an alternative and this Sarah's benchmark may change lots of my plans - for the better of performance naturally.

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One issue that seems evident now is that if we store styled text in a field and need to save that to a custom prop, there's 1) loss of data possible (the rev-html converter - or rather stripper), 2) the overhead of saving extra style tags... True. If you need to store

Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
On 17.05.2005 09:35:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One issue that seems evident now is that if we store styled text in a field and need to save that to a custom prop, there's 1) loss of data possible (the rev-html converter - or rather stripper), 2) the overhead of

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a stack is opened, the whole thing is in RAM, field properties and all. The difference is the overhead associated with each storage mechanism: While fields appear to us to be simple to work with, that's all smoke and mirrors -- under

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-14 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Eric - Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have to do to display text in addition to storing it. ... For the benefit of anyone who's never had to deal

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Erik Hansen wrote: --- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have to do to display text in addition to storing it. ... For the benefit of anyone who's never had to deal

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-14 Thread Ken Ray
On 5/14/05 4:48 PM, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Eric - Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things 2. FIELD: This bucket is down the hall... it sounds

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-14 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where are they stored? In the stack file, in a way that's much easier to get to than field contents. where do they go when the glimmies are neemer? They can be saved with the file. So they have two distinctions from globals: they're

OT: BoontLing and RunRev -- why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-14 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where do they go when the glimmies are neemer? They shy and shotgun, 'course. OK. thanks to: Boontling An American Lingo Charles C. Adams UT Press, Austin great photos. formation of a new lingo may not be so completely OT after all. still needed:

why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-13 Thread Erik Hansen
are custom properties so fast? Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
. But Dr. Raney overlooked the beauty and simplicity of his own custom properties. I've worked on projects with tens of thousands of custom properties with narry a blink. why are custom properties so fast? Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all