Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Judy Perry
Still, you will have those who are learning it for the first time (e.g., my heart surgeon previously mentioned, children, etc.) for whom a single buttoned mouse is preferrable. Also -- for how many of the 'average' users will right-clicking be well understood? While learnability is important,

Re: right-click on Macs

2005-08-03 Thread Judy Perry
I think it is option-click. At least, that's the way I've done it using a uni-button mouse (because, you can, of course, get a true right-click using a 3rd party mouse on a Mac should you so need). Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Charles Silverman wrote: Is there a way to get the right-click when

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Dom
Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one-key keyboard. Hardly any typing mistakes using that :-) The one you write on it with a pen? -- Revolutionario (not so much) With a Newton MP130, waiting for syncing between [Newton] Notes and my [Rev] Journal

Tabbed button colour, Win XP

2005-08-03 Thread Martin BLACKMAN
I have a tabbed button in Rev 2.6 whose background color is set to dark grey. In XP with the theme set to 'windows classic' it appears as dark grey. With the theme set to 'Windows XP' the background of the button becomes off-white, and setting the background color of the button has no effect. I

Re: open drawer bug 3026

2005-08-03 Thread Éric Miclo
Hello, I did report that bug (#2921) on 2005/06/22 and it is stated as fixed/ resolved. I got a message telling me it was fixed in build 114 that should have been released some times ago, but the latest build is still 108. Does somebody know if a new build is in the pipeline? Regards,

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Chipp Walters
Judy, You're confusing how hard something is to learn, versus how hard it is to use day in and day out. It's proven highly modal systems are the easiest to learn (ATM machine), but you wouldn't want a bank teller to have to use one 8 hours a day! In fact, when the Mac first came out (I

More on SecondLife system requirements

2005-08-03 Thread Kat
After reading James/Cazzj's comments to the SERUG Google Group about Mac vs Windows for Second Life (SL, http://www.secondlife.com, where we plan to hold virtual meetings), I borrowed my dad's new 3.2 GHz HP laptop to see if it really was so much better. I regret to announce that it is. But

SERUG group founded in SecondLife

2005-08-03 Thread Kat
To follow up on the message I just sent about using SecondLife as a virtual meeting place for SERUG (SouthEastern [US] Revolution User Group), I'd like to reiterate that this organization is open to any Revolution developers who are interested, and with some of our meetings taking place online

Cross-Platform default btn Geometry

2005-08-03 Thread FlexibleLearning
Something Richard said the other day, that Mac and Win display the OK and Cancel buttons differently. So it occured to me that there should be a handler that deals with this automatically so the buttons display correctly on either OS, preferably in a flexible way. This is what I have come

OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas McCarthy
Sorry for the completely off topic nature of this...but Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? I have a Japanese issued iBook (English system). So before I order any DVDs from Amazon, I thought I'd better check. thanks tom ___ Join Excite!

RE: when can I set a substack's properties?

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
I recently found that if you tell an unopened substack to create a new group within itself, it will give that group an ID of 0. If you tell it to create more than one new group within itself, all of the groups will have an ID of 0. So, there must be at least some differences between open and

Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?

2005-08-03 Thread Derek Bump
Thomas McCarthy wrote: Sorry for the completely off topic nature of this...but Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? I have a Japanese issued iBook (English system). So before I order any DVDs from Amazon, I thought I'd better check. Almost all DVD players (including those in

Re: global problems

2005-08-03 Thread Jon
Upon further reflection about the situation in Rev (as opposed to languages that are really compiled, and execute from the start of the program each time a change is made), I take your point. In Pascal, the program/compiler must re-create each global each time the program is run. In Rev, the

RE: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
As someone who has not used a Mac in 12 years, and has never used any system ending in 'nix'... I have to say that right-clicking is completely ingrained in my thinking. If I want to add a shortcut to the desktop, I right-click on the desktop. If I want to open an explorer window, I right-click

ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Jim Hurley
S Message: 15 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ANN Full justification To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jim, This handler works great! :-) I noticed

Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?

2005-08-03 Thread Kat
Thomas McCarthy wrote: Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? The answer is yes, but if you also want to play US zoned discs, you have to reset the DVD player. You can do this only a limited number of times (5) per machine. Yes, it's a problem, but if you can completely remove

Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?

2005-08-03 Thread Peter T. Evensen
It is my understanding that the region code is stored in the drive hardware/firmware, so reinstalling the driver won't help. Going to About This Mac and More Info should show you the region code for your DVD player and how many changes you have left. It's probably under the ATA section. At

Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Yves COPPE
Le 03-août-05 à 16:37, Jim Hurley a écrit : Al et al, I have finished the plug-in version. This should be much easier to use. Just select the field to be justified and click on the Justify the selected field button. It also stores the original text in a custom property of the field.

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread FlexibleLearning
I use both PC's and Mac's so I believe I have a balanced view. As far as I am concerned, right-clicking is an extra. Anything in a contextual menu must be also available under the normal menus. The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal.

Re: Tabbed button colour, Win XP

2005-08-03 Thread subzero569
Maybe try: set the lookandfeel to Windows 95 I have used this successfully before with tabs. Josh On 8/3/05, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a tabbed button in Rev 2.6 whose background color is set to dark grey. In XP with the theme set to 'windows classic' it appears as dark

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Dan Shafer
Ah, yes, the famous VIECAWP -- Vertically Integrated Easy-Correcting Analog Word Processor. AKA pencil. On Aug 3, 2005, at 12:16 AM, Dom wrote: Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one-key keyboard. Hardly any typing mistakes using that :-) The one you write on it with

Decompile Windows RR application

2005-08-03 Thread Ton Kuypers
Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just

Re: numToChar(28) in list field

2005-08-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
Scott Morrow wrote: I have a list field where the items on each line are delimited with numToChar(28). This works fine when I edit the content of the list field using a script. However, when I edit it using an object inspector window the item delimiters all change to numToChar(215). This is

how to print landscape

2005-08-03 Thread Ban Nguyen
Hello How to set to print the cd in landscape? I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Peter T. Evensen
A number of times I have been called on to help novice computer users with problems on their PCs. When I ask them to right click on something, they invariable had never used the right mouse button. From then on, every time I ask them to click on something, they ask right or left button?

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Peter T. Evensen
This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tech support story of the woman who bought her first computer, brought it home, and called in because she couldn't get it to do anything. She said she kept pressing on the foot pedal (like a sowing machine), but nothing would happen... At 10:06 PM

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Mark Swindell
On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Judy Perry
Or the one about the woman whose cupholder on her computer was broken?? :-D Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Peter T. Evensen wrote: This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tech support story of the woman who bought her first computer, brought it home, and called in because she couldn't get it

Construyendo una especie de PowerPoint

2005-08-03 Thread rsarabia
Hola Alejandro, Estuvimos hablando hace tiempo cuando estaba evaluando Revolution y ahora ya tengo la versión Enterprise. Voy a tratar de desarrollar algo parecido a un powerpoint, mucho más sencillo, pero con la misma filosofía. Quiero proporcionar a mis clientes una aplicación con la

Re: Decompile Windows RR application

2005-08-03 Thread Bill Vlahos
If you didn't encrypt it or remove the source code then you should be able to get it back. More difficult if you did those things. Bill On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote: Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Bill Vlahos
What really drives me crazy is when a left handed person customizes their mouse and switches the buttons. The left button becomes the contextual button and the right button is for selecting. Since it is all done in software there are no hints that the mouse is different other than it is

RE: Decompile Windows RR application

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Does the compiled program run any separate rev stacks? If so, you could replace that stack with a stack that contains a script that clones the stack that is contained within the executable file. Or maybe... Don't know if this would work, but just maybe... You could create a stack that clones

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Judy Perry
Yup, Or when, in a teaching situation, some little gremlin geek-in-training does likewise with scattered mice in the lab and you're trying to teach computer novices... Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Bill Vlahos wrote: What really drives me crazy is when a left handed person customizes their mouse

Re: how to print landscape

2005-08-03 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote: Hello How to set to print the cd in landscape? I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? Take a look at the printRotated property in the dicitonary: set the

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I heard of one company that removes all the CD drives to eliminate this problem At 12:03 PM 8/3/2005, you wrote: Or the one about the woman whose cupholder on her computer was broken?? :-D Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Peter T. Evensen wrote: This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal)

RE: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Well... I think maybe the problem arises with inconsiderate programmers (I am referring to myself here, none of you guys) who create functionalities that can only be accessed by right-clicking. This leaves one-button mouse users out in the cold. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: numToChar(28) in list field

2005-08-03 Thread Martin Baxter
isotomac() does this. Are you using isotomac() at all? Or Maybe rev is doing so behind the scenes for some reason ? Perhaps you moved the stack across platforms ? ( isotomac() and mactoiso() should never be used on texts containing certain CO control chars (ie ascii 32) as many of them will

recursion limits

2005-08-03 Thread Chris Sheffield
I know recursion has been discussed in the past, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever run into any limits (i.e. memory problems) with recursion in Rev. I am working on a little backup utility for my own use, and I'm wondering what would happen if I decided to back up my entire hard drive?

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Martin Baxter
It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one

RE: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Ah, good point - and by playing around I see that the little key with the windows symbol allows for the same thing on a PC. Only, when that key is released it brings up the start menu - so I should see if I can block that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Alex Tweedly
Martin Baxter wrote: It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can

RE: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
The ctrl key on windows is not the same key as on mac... Remember, to check if the ctrl key is down, on windows, you use this statement: If the commandKey is down... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Tweedly Sent: Wednesday, August

RE: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Hmmm It seems that trying to trap either rawkeyup or rawkeydown still does not prevent the start menu from being displayed when one releases the key with the little windows symbol on it. If there is no way to block it, then PC users with a single mousebutton would find it very annoying to do

Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Jim Hurley
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Re: recursion limits

2005-08-03 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi, In about recursive tasks, the send message in x seconds can efficiently be replaced by an on idle message if the soft has to work for days, weeks or months. Because the idle message is only send when no one thread is running, it's an helpfull way to avoid mrmory troubles. I used this

a peeve regarding saving scripts

2005-08-03 Thread Timothy Miller
If I click on the apply changes button when I'm ready to save a script then if the script won't compile because it contains an error then Answer It is so irritating because I have to drag the script window/ down and hunt for the error window that lies somewhere behind it/

Re: [OT] Pigs Fly

2005-08-03 Thread Dom
Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, yes, the famous VIECAWP -- Vertically Integrated Easy-Correcting Analog Word Processor. AKA pencil. I didn't knew this one ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Yves COPPE
That's easy. First save the file to your drive. Then drag the file to the Plug-in folder inside the folder with your current version of Run Rev. From this point on it will appear among your plug-ins under the Development menu when you start up. Jim Hi Jim that's my problem, I cannot

Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
On 8/3/05, Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's easy. First save the file to your drive. Then drag the file to the Plug-in folder inside the folder with your current version of Run Rev. From this point on it will appear among your plug-ins under the Development menu when you

Re: recursion limits

2005-08-03 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Pierre, but I don't think that's quite what I'm after. My backup program won't be something that will run consistently for weeks at a time. I'm talking about recursion as in calling the same handler/function from within itself. I'm guessing there could be issues with this if the

Re: Decompile Windows RR application

2005-08-03 Thread Pat Trendler
Ton, This was on the list some time ago, can't remember who, I think it was Monte. I've used this myself a couple of times. on mouseUp answer file Standalone if it is cancel then exit to top put url (binfile:it) into tStack repeat forever -- there's more than one stackfile in there

how to print image in the field

2005-08-03 Thread Ban Nguyen
Hello, I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? I used revPrintField but it did not work. revPrintField only prints text in the field. Thank you ___

Re: recursion limits

2005-08-03 Thread Stephen Barncard
Chris, you might find a thread on this board in the last year about Directory Walker scripts interesting -- several folks doing what you describe: traversing an entire volume... At 3:02 PM -0600 8/3/05, Chris Sheffield wrote: Thanks, Pierre, but I don't think that's quite what I'm after. My

Re: how to print image in the field

2005-08-03 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 3, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote: Hello, I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? I used revPrintField but it did not work. revPrintField only prints text in the field. You have a few

Drag Drop of lines within fields

2005-08-03 Thread Ton Kuypers
I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone please point me in the right direction or to an example script? Many thanks in

Re: Drag Drop of lines within fields

2005-08-03 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Ton Kuypers wrote: I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone please point me in the right direction or to an example

Re: Drag Drop of lines within fields

2005-08-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
On 8/3/05, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Ton Kuypers wrote: I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone

Re: recursion limits

2005-08-03 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Chris, I've had apps quit due to recursion, but it's been a while ago. Unless there's a compelling reason to use true (nested) recursion, I always avoid it. You can accomplish the same effect by scheduling the next iteration of a handler from within itself in 0 seconds. It just means you

Re: a peeve regarding saving scripts

2005-08-03 Thread Jim Ault
Can't you just move it to one corner and it will stay there/reappear there from then on? I am on a Mac OSX with 2.5.1 Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/3/05 12:52 PM, Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I click on the apply changes button when I'm ready to save a script then if the script

Re: a peeve regarding saving scripts

2005-08-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Tim- Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 12:52:39 PM, you wrote: It's been Bugzilla'd and already fixed for the next release. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in

2005-08-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Yves- Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 1:44:41 PM, you wrote: that's my problem, I cannot save, the save menuItem is dimmed ! In the messagebox, type set the style of stack JustifyTextPlugin to normal then save it in your plugins folder. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ANN: Datastructures Article.

2005-08-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies, code and all the bells and whistles. There's a stack

Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there

2005-08-03 Thread Jim Ault
I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at

Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.

2005-08-03 Thread Stephen Barncard
Beautiful work, Andre. I've bookmarked it. Thanks. sqb Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies,

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13

2005-08-03 Thread Martin BLACKMAN
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:00:14 -0400 From: subzero569 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tabbed button colour, Win XP To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe try: set the lookandfeel to

Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/3/05 8:19 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies,

Re: Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there

2005-08-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at

Re: Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there

2005-08-03 Thread Alex Tweedly
Jim Ault wrote: I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at

Single Point Property Creation/Assignment

2005-08-03 Thread Stephen Barncard
Hi gang, I'm creating a central management system for settings using user properties. I want to use one central routine to access the preferences stack. To do that, I am working with a handler that creates and sets a custom property INSIDE a custom property set - all set at once. I got the

Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.

2005-08-03 Thread Judy Perry
Cool, Andre! I can't wait to read it!! Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The

Re: Single Point Property Creation/Assignment

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/3/05 11:02 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I'm creating a central management system for settings using user properties. I want to use one central routine to access the preferences stack. To do that, I am working with a handler that creates and sets a custom

Re: Single Point Property Creation/Assignment

2005-08-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Well, as long as the variable holds a value, you don't need to use do for the *variable* part of it, i.e. this: put Test into tProp set the uPropSet[tProp] of this stack to Hello is the same as: put Test into tProp do set the uPropSet[