Re: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Jabbar Azam
Hello Alexey, The node count is 20 per site and there will be two sites. RF=3. But since the software isn't complete and the database code is going through a rewrite we aren't sure about space requirements. The node count is only a guess, bases on the number of dev nodes in use. We will have

Re[2]: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Plotnik, Alexey
Let me speak from my heart. I maintenance 200+TB Cassandra cluster. The problem is money. If your IT people have a $$$ they can deploy Cassandra on super robust hardware with triple power supply of course. But why then you need Cassandra? Only for scalability? The idea of high available

Re: Re[2]: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Eric Stevens
They do not use Raid10 on the node, they don't use dual power as well, because it's not cheap in cluster of many nodes I think the point here is that money spent on traditional failure avoidance models is better spent in a Cassandra cluster by instead having more nodes of less expensive

Re: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Jack Krupansky
About the only thing you can say is two specific points: 1. A more resilient node is great, but it in no ways reduces or eliminates the need total nodes. Sometimes nodes become inaccessible due to network outages or system maintenance (e.g., software upgrades), or the vagaries of Java JVM and

Re: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Jabbar Azam
Hello Jack, Some really good points. I never thought of issues with the JVM or OOM issues. Thanks Jabbar Azam On 8 November 2014 16:52, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com wrote: About the only thing you can say is two specific points: 1. A more resilient node is great, but it in no

Re: Re[2]: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Jabbar Azam
With regards to money I think it's always a good idea to find a cost effective solution. The problem is different people have different interpretations of what cost effectiveness means. I'm referring to my organisation. ;). I'm sure it happens in other organisations. Biases, politics, experience,

Re: Re[2]: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Juho Mäkinen
I have used Supermicro servers in my previous work and they give excellent quality for their money. They have been considered a bit cheap quality wise in the past, but the current models are pretty good. They offer all standard stuff like remote control cards (IPMI), dual power supplies (if you

Re: Re[2]: Redundancy inside a cassandra node

2014-11-08 Thread Jabbar Azam
Hello Eric, You make a good point about resiliency being applied at a higher level in the stack. Thanks Jabbar Azam On 8 November 2014 14:24, Eric Stevens migh...@gmail.com wrote: They do not use Raid10 on the node, they don't use dual power as well, because it's not cheap in cluster of