Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Jaydeep Chovatia
We use STCS, and our experience with *cleanup* is that it takes a long time to run in a 100-node cluster. We would like to replace one node every day for various purposes in our fleet. If we run *cleanup* after each node replacement, then it might take, say, 15 days to complete, and that hinders o

Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Jeff Jirsa
You should 100% trigger cleanup each time or you’ll almost certainly resurrect data sooner or laterIf you’re using leveled compaction it’s especially cheap. Stcs and twcs are worse, but if you’re really scaling that often, I’d be considering lcs and running cleanup just before or just after each sc

Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Jaydeep Chovatia
Thanks, Jeff! But in our environment we replace nodes quite often for various optimization purposes, etc. say, almost 1 node per day (node *addition* followed by node *decommission*, which of course changes the topology), and we have a cluster of size 100 nodes with 300GB per node. If we have to ru

Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Jeff Jirsa
Cleanup is fast and cheap and basically a no-op if you haven’t changed the ring After cassandra has transactional cluster metadata to make ring changes strongly consistent, cassandra should do this in every compaction. But until then it’s left for operators to run when they’re sure the state of the

Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Jaydeep Chovatia
Isn't this considered a kind of *bug* in Cassandra because as we know *cleanup* is a lengthy and unreliable operation, so relying on the *cleanup* means higher chances of data resurrection? Do you think we should discard the unowned token-ranges as part of the regular compaction itself? What are th

Re: Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread guo Maxwell
compact ion will just merge duplicate data and remove delete data in this node .if you add or remove one node for the cluster, I think clean up is needed. if clean up failed, I think we should come to see the reason. Runtian Liu 于2023年5月5日周五 06:37写道: > Hi all, > > Is cleanup the sole method to r

Is cleanup is required if cluster topology changes

2023-05-04 Thread Runtian Liu
Hi all, Is cleanup the sole method to remove data that does not belong to a specific node? In a cluster, where nodes are added or decommissioned from time to time, failure to run cleanup may lead to data resurrection issues, as deleted data may remain on the node that lost ownership of certain par