Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-07 Thread Rick Bullotta
ailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Hunger > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:30 PM > To: Neo4j user discussions > Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document > Store > > What about the "partition" blobs into evenly s

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-07 Thread Craig Taverner
> > On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:31 PM, "Rick Bullotta" < > > rick.bullo...@burningskysoftware.com> wrote: > > > > > I can't see how that would have any difference on the cache usage or > > > transaction log size, since you'd generally be reading

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Peter Neubauer
lf (at present). > >> > >> One other approach that might work is to extend Neo to be able to tell > the > >> Neo engine not to cache specific properties and to not place certain > > actions > >> in the transaction log. This way, Neo itself might be used for s

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Ben Sabrin
n > Behalf Of Michael Hunger > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:30 PM > To: Neo4j user discussions > Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document > Store > > What about the "partition" blobs into evenly sized shards and distribute >

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Rick Bullotta
unger Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:30 PM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store What about the "partition" blobs into evenly sized shards and distribute them over more nodes. Then you can adapt this to the block size

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
Do you have any statistics on the size and size distribution of your binary content? That would be very interesting. You're right if the binary data was stored in neo4j itself it would participate in all transactions, recoveries, HA clustering and such. Actually what we would do then is mimickin

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
Perhaps something to experiment with during a lab day :) Cheers Michael Am 06.02.2011 um 22:46 schrieb Axel Morgner: > Ok, sounds great. > > Currently we're using a rather classical approach (as Rick I think) > which is, storing binary content in the file system. In our CMS use > case, we ha

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Axel Morgner
Ok, sounds great. Currently we're using a rather classical approach (as Rick I think) which is, storing binary content in the file system. In our CMS use case, we have a typical properties/binary ratio of 10/90 percent, so the Neo store remains small and handy. Another benefit is that direct fi

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Axel Morgner
ithout the "transaction clog" and "cache poisoning". ;-) >> >> Just a thought... >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On >> Behalf Of Michael Hunger &

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
"transaction clog" and "cache poisoning". ;-) > > Just a thought... > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Hunger > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:1

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Rick Bullotta
iscussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store Axel, Actually you could do both. I collapsed the "file-system-structure" to a simple notion of collection + key as in mongodb but of course you could use the "filesystem metaphor" t

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
t; From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Hunger > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 3:51 PM > To: Neo4j user discussions > Subject: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store > > Hi there, > &

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
Axel, Actually you could do both. I collapsed the "file-system-structure" to a simple notion of collection + key as in mongodb but of course you could use the "filesystem metaphor" to model the b-tree that resolves a key that represents a "path" to the document node. Michael Am 06.02.2011 um

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Axel Morgner
Hi Michael, just for clarification: Do you refer to how to store the internal structure of BSON documents, or how to store documents in a filesystem-like tree structure? Axel On 06.02.2011 21:50, Michael Hunger wrote: > Hi there, > > this weekend I was away from a computer so I spent some time

Re: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Rick Bullotta
o4j user discussions Subject: [Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store Hi there, this weekend I was away from a computer so I spent some time brainstorming things. I would be interested in any feedback on those thoughts and would like to broaden the audience beyond the d

[Neo4j] Some brainstorming ideas - 1. Use Neo4j as Document Store

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Hunger
Hi there, this weekend I was away from a computer so I spent some time brainstorming things. I would be interested in any feedback on those thoughts and would like to broaden the audience beyond the devteam. My question: Has anyone ever tried to use Neo4j as a document store ala MongoDB. The i