Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
On a fresh and clean Ubuntu VM (after installing java, maven, git, etc), I just cloned neo4j-spatial and tried `mvn clean install`. During the build, I noticed a few these scattered about: Feb 27, 2011 11:58:26 AM org.geotools.map.MapContent finalize SEVERE: Call MapContent dispose() to prevent

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Hi Emilio, That has come up in conversations before, but we've stuck with just using the mailing list. While not a forum, google-groups is a good compromise because it is nicely searchable, web or email accessible and easy to manage. What does the list think? Is it time to to move on from

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Alex Averbuch
google groups please! On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Andreas Kollegger andreas.kolleg...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Emilio, That has come up in conversations before, but we've stuck with just using the mailing list. While not a forum, google-groups is a good compromise because it is

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Anders Nawroth
Hi! As stated here: http://neo4j.org/community/list/ you can search the mailing list archives here: http://www.mail-archive.com/user@lists.neo4j.org/info.html or here: http://www.listware.net/list-neo4j-user.html /anders 2011-02-27 08:30, Emilio Dabdoub skrev: Im almost sure that somebody

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Rick Bullotta
Google groups sounds OK, even though Google is evil. ;-) -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Kollegger Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:13 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Forums ? Hi Emilio,

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
That's true. It is possible to search the mailing list. Do you prefer those interfaces to using google groups? -Andreas On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Anders Nawroth wrote: Hi! As stated here: http://neo4j.org/community/list/ you can search the mailing list archives here:

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Cedric Hurst
+1 for google groups as well. Its a shame that google groups doesn't offer forums yet (or maybe they do and I just don't know about it). On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Andreas Kollegger andreas.kolleg...@neotechnology.com wrote: That's true. It is possible to search the mailing list. Do you

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Alex Averbuch
besides the lack of edit (which isn't so important) what does a forum have the google groups doesn't? ps, google does no evil On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Cedric Hurst ced...@spantree.net wrote: +1 for google groups as well. Its a shame that google groups doesn't offer forums yet (or

[Neo4j] ServerPlugin example GetAll failed to load

2011-02-27 Thread Brendan Cheng
Hi, I tried to load the GetAll example into ServerPlugin directory of 1.3.M03 but found: 22:58:28 | 850 [WrapperSimpleAppMain] WARN org.neo4j.server.plugins.PluginManager - Failed to load plugin: ServerPlugin[GetAll] INFO | jvm 1| 2011/02/27 22:58:28 | java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
A company that encourages people to go- -ogle does not seem entirely innocent. :P On Feb 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Alex Averbuch wrote: besides the lack of edit (which isn't so important) what does a forum have the google groups doesn't? ps, google does no evil On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:13

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Cedric Hurst
Alex, Sorry, I meant to say its a shame that github doesn't yet offer forums. The hazards of posting before caffeine. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Andreas Kollegger andreas.kolleg...@neotechnology.com wrote: A company that encourages people to go-  -ogle does not seem entirely innocent.

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just blew away my ~/.m2 and tried again, same results. People keep saying things about Neo4j M2, but the pom.xml dependency is still M1. Could that be the issue? In any case, changing to m2 doesn't work as that doesn't resolve. Maybe someone would

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Craig Taverner
That error is from the PNG exporter, and has never had any side effects. Also that code is not called at all by the test case I am running, which is TestOSMImport. You should see that error only from TestDynamicLayers. Having said that, I have added a fix for it, and will commit that later today

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
To be thorough, what does your settings.xml look like, and what do you have MAVEN_OPTS set to? Are you using any proxies for maven repositories? Are you on your own network, etc? And, while we're at it: `java -version` and `uname -a` There must be a subtle SNAPSHOT artifact problem, is all I

Re: [Neo4j] ServerPlugin example GetAll failed to load

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Hi Brendan, You can find the source in the neo4j-server repository. The particular file is here: https://github.com/neo4j/server/blob/1.3.M03/examples/src/main/java/org/neo4j/examples/server/plugins/GetAll.java I'll take a look at that example to see what's going on. Cheers, Andreas On Feb

[Neo4j] String statistics after 1.3.M03

2011-02-27 Thread Massimo Lusetti
Hi neo4j developers, I'm repopulating a neo4j db with fresh data made after M03 release, so I guess If I could run Tobias statistics tool to gather some info... are these interesting to you and safe for data? Cheers -- Massimo http://meridio.blogspot.com

Re: [Neo4j] MMap Error on importing large data

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
you can try to null the batch inserter and all its external deps that you control add several System.gc() with some thread.sleep(5000) in between that should free the heap you can also output runtimes free memory or even better have a jconsole run concurrently to see heap allocation history (it

Re: [Neo4j] MMap Error on importing large data

2011-02-27 Thread Craig Taverner
Funny you should suggest this. 10 minutes ago I started a new test run that does exactly that. If any test case takes more than 5min to import, I run 3 gc() with 1s sleeps in between. OK, so not your 5s sleep, but let's see if it helps. I also reduced Xmx to 1600M, and reduced the mmap settings

Re: [Neo4j] ServerPlugin example GetAll failed to load

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Hi again, So, it looks like the verifyName() complaint is about the name containing characters that aren't URL encoded. And, sorry, you asked for the source to ServerPlugin.java. That's here:

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I only use Maven because other projects make me, so I haven't done anything unconventional here. No MAVEN_OPTS and no settings.xml of which I'm aware. I'm on my home LAN but without any proxies, and haven't experienced anything like this with other

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
OK, that looks so incredibly normal. Um... hm. Huh, I just noticed that you did `mvn install` after the git clone. I always reflexively run `mvn clean install`. I'm cleaning my VM, blowing away the home directory, then re-trying with that. Hold please. -Andreas On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:55 PM,

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Alright, so that worked just fine. Last thing I can try is reducing the memory on my VM to just 1G. But, I can't otherwise think what could be wrong. -Andreas On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I only use Maven because other

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2011 01:22 PM, Michael Hunger wrote: can you post maven dependency:tree [INFO] Scanning for projects... [INFO] - [INFO] Building Neo4j Spatial Components [INFO]

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
On a different note - you also clearly see that in dependency:tree mvn clean install on a non existing .m2/repository took 26 minutes and pulled 87 MB dependencies from the internet. I mean, really ? That would scare away even the most hardcore GIS user :) Shouldn't we make most of those deps

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
Hmm looking at that there: Why does spatial depend on server 0.6-SNAPSHOT which pulls in 1.3-SNAPSHOT which might due Tobias refactorings in kernel extensions not binary compatible be with the regular 1.3.M01 dep ? Craig could you perhaps please update the deps of neo4j-spatial to 1.3.M03

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Neubauer
Mmh, in Spatial there is a Server Plugin, that is not updated to the latest milestone and the Server API breakout. That is the reason for Neo4j Server deps being pulled in ... Cheers, /peter neubauer GTalk:      neubauer.peter Skype       peter.neubauer Phone       +46 704 106975 LinkedIn  

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
I updated the deps to M03 locally and fixed some implementation changes in neo4j-kernel (esp. IndexProvider this is also where Nolans problems came from). I also tried to exclude stuff from the pom but got not rid of everything. All tests run fine except for two, which have some issue with

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
The minimal changes I had to make on Nolans machine to get it down to the same 2 failing tests as on mine are: (there is one additonal problem with xerces when maven tries to write out the test-results as xml, but i assume that is about some weird version mismatch between openjdk and what maven

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Neubauer
Ok, Upgrading will fix a lot of that... On Feb 27, 2011 10:01 PM, Michael Hunger michael.hun...@neotechnology.com wrote: The minimal changes I had to make on Nolans machine to get it down to the same 2 failing tests as on mine are: (there is one additonal problem with xerces when maven tries to

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
Interestingly when I run the tests from the IDE all work fine. Only via maven they fail. That's really weird. Michael Am 27.02.2011 um 22:08 schrieb Peter Neubauer: Ok, Upgrading will fix a lot of that... On Feb 27, 2011 10:01 PM, Michael Hunger michael.hun...@neotechnology.com wrote:

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Neubauer
There might be issues with the tests running in the same JVM instance right now. I had these issues when running with BerkeleyDB in my embedded-import branch - the index was left in memory for the next test! So, maybe you can try forking the tests to make sure they are really independent?

[Neo4j] Hosted OSM and library design considerations

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just had a very nice chat with one of you, not sure whom, about Neo4J Spatial's future, and we talked briefly about the possibility of a remotely-hosted OSM dataset. I'm working on Hermes, an accessible navigation platform (http://hermesgps.info).

Re: [Neo4j] Hosted OSM and library design considerations

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
It was me :) As you sent me the access credentials I assumed you knew. Cheers Michael Am 27.02.2011 um 22:46 schrieb Nolan Darilek: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just had a very nice chat with one of you, not sure whom, about Neo4J Spatial's future, and we talked briefly

Re: [Neo4j] Can anyone compile the latest Neo4J Spatial?

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
Tried to run them with forkModealways/forkMode for surefire but didn't help. Am 27.02.2011 um 22:18 schrieb Peter Neubauer: There might be issues with the tests running in the same JVM instance right now. I had these issues when running with BerkeleyDB in my embedded-import branch - the index

Re: [Neo4j] Hosted OSM and library design considerations

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2011 04:21 PM, Michael Hunger wrote: It was me :) As you sent me the access credentials I assumed you knew. You know, that makes a surprising amount of sense. :) I'm having 3-4 separate conversations this afternoon with at least half a

Re: [Neo4j] String statistics after 1.3.M03

2011-02-27 Thread Tobias Ivarsson
The tool is theoretically safe, and has never caused any problems during testing. It does however come with NO GUARANTEES, and running it is on your own risk. I'm not sure the input from those statistics would influence anything at this point, but since I haven't looked at any of these statistics

Re: [Neo4j] MMap Error on importing large data

2011-02-27 Thread Tobias Ivarsson
Is there any chance you could create a heapdump when this happens? I see some symptoms of this being memory related, and investigating where memory is being held is how I would go about investigating this. I have little faith in explicit gc()-calls solving this, the GC kicks in automatically when

Re: [Neo4j] ServerPlugin example GetAll failed to load

2011-02-27 Thread Tobias Ivarsson
Looks like we should augment that exception to include some information about what the name was that it didn't except :) -tobias On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Andreas Kollegger andreas.kolleg...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi again, So, it looks like the verifyName() complaint is about the

Re: [Neo4j] More build issues

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2011 05:38 PM, Michael Hunger wrote: What neo4j-spatial did you use? The locally fixed ? This is _still_ at 1.3-M01 or the remote github branch (that one I updated to M03). The M03 branch. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Neo4j] More build issues

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Hunger
Can you then provide how your classpath is setup for the scala shell, so how the dependencies are pulled? And perhaps a similar transitive listing like the one from maven. Thanks Michael Am 28.02.2011 um 00:40 schrieb Nolan Darilek: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: [Neo4j] More build issues

2011-02-27 Thread Nolan Darilek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2011 05:43 PM, Michael Hunger wrote: Can you then provide how your classpath is setup for the scala shell, so how the dependencies are pulled? And perhaps a similar transitive listing like the one from maven. Not immediately sure.

[Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Emilio Dabdoub
Ok, I officially and sincerely feel embarrased, I dont know how to reply to this Mailing list thing, never used one before but definitely its not the most intuitive way to colaborate I have seen. I googled how to use mailing lists, or a mailing list client and did not found anything. So Im

[Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Emilio Dabdoub
Third time I try to send a reply to the mailing list.. I keep getting bounce backs... no html, address not allowed, etc. - Ok, I officially and sincerely feel embarrased, I dont know how to reply to this Mailing list thing, never used one before but definitely its not the most intuitive way

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Cedric Hurst
We are receiving your messages just fine (or at least I am) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Emilio Dabdoub edabd...@gmail.com wrote: Third time I try to send a reply to the mailing list.. I keep getting bounce backs... no html, address not allowed, etc. - Ok, I

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread David Montag
Emilio, Think of the mailing list as a group of people. The group has its own address. To post an e-mail to the group, simply send it to: user@lists.neo4j.org Everyone in the group will then get the e-mail. I would recommend you to configure your subscription to send you e-mails immediately.

Re: [Neo4j] More build issues

2011-02-27 Thread Andreas Kollegger
SBT? You could try the `graph-src` and `graph-pkg` actions to see what those produce. Look in target/scala-version/graph for the results. On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2011 05:43 PM, Michael Hunger wrote: Can you

Re: [Neo4j] Forums ?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Neubauer
Emilio, thanks for all your feedback, it is really appreciated! You are raising a lot of valid points, above all the high treshold for participating in a mailman-mailing list, and the search capabilities. We don't want to own more infrastructure, so a hosted solution would be great, and we are