Future technical direction of Mesos?

[Andrei Sekretenko]

Hi all,
while the vote on moving to Attic is ongoing (I hope that the current
standstill will end quite soon - by Attic+non-ASF fork, by lowering
the committer bar or in some other way), I think we need to (once
again) ask recent and potential future contributors and users:

In which exact direction would you like to see the project moving?
What are the things you need in Mesos and would be willing to contribute?
For the people and organizations who are maintaining private Mesos
forks - what is there in those forks that might be of value to the
community and you would like to merge into upstream?

I'm asking, because I'm under impression that an (unconscious) view of
some/many of the PMC is that Mesos is not  - and will never be -
solving any task that Kubernetes is not solving now and will not be
solving in the foreseeable future. _If_ one views Mesos+something as a
"contender in a container orchestration war" then that "battle" is
clearly lost.

Using the "bad analogy" Curl/Firefox by Charles-François Natali: what
are the tasks for which you use this "Curl" where it cannot be
reasonably substituted by "Firefox"? And do you envision other tasks
of these kinds?
--
In the other words: what do you want Mesos to be in the future?
A thing capable of running legacy Mesos frameworks for container orchestration?
A core of a system which struggles to keep feature parity with
solutions on top of K8s, has performance characteristics similar to
those solutions, but is not built on top of K8s?
Or... something entirely different?

In the two first cases, I would agree that Mesos has no future and
should be retired (and retired not only as an ASF project, but in
principle).
In the latter case - can you be more specific?

Note that, although the answers might impact the ongoing Attic vote,
the project needs them regardless of the outcome of that vote.

Best regards,
Andrei Sekretenko

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Gastón Kleiman]

+1

I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> 
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
>  and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> .
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Kevin Klues]

+1 (binding)

While it is of course sad to see things come to an end here, I do encourage
those of you who wish to see Mesos live on to try and breath new life into
it as a standalone project on github.
In that sense, this is more of a new beginning than an end.
The king is dead, long live the king!

Kevin

Am Di., 6. Apr. 2021 um 21:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Mahler <
bmah...@apache.org>:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Based on the recent conversations
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
>> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
>> https://attic.apache.org/>
>> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>>
>> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
>> the
>> attic.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
>> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
>> is encouraged to vote. See process here
>> .
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>

-- 
~Kevin

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Benjamin Mahler]

+1 (binding)

Thanks to all who contributed to the project.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> .
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Gastón Kleiman]

+1

I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> 
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
>  and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> .
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Meng Zhu]

+1

It has been a pleasure working with you all!

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> .
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Jie Yu]

+1

It was great working with you all.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff  wrote:

>
>
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> 
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
>  and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> .
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
> +1 for move to attic.
>

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

[Till Toenshoff]

> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Based on the recent conversations 
> 
>  on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the 
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic  
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
> 
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the 
> attic. 
> 
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from 
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community is 
> encouraged to vote. See process here .
> 
> Thanks,



+1 for move to attic.