Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-24 Thread Patrick Wendell
Hey Andy - these Nabble groups look great! Thanks for setting them up. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Evan Chan wrote: > Thanks Andy, at first glance nabble seems great, it allows search plus > posting new topics, so it appears to be bidirectional.Now just have to > register an account o

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-22 Thread Andy Konwinski
It would be a good thing, I'm just not sure how to achieve it, or if it's possible. AFAIK, you cannot simply subscribe the lists to each other. Have you heard of a setup like this being used before? On Dec 22, 2013 7:12 PM, "Mike Potts" wrote: > Just a thought: if the mirroring was bidirectional

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-22 Thread Andy Konwinski
Unfortunately, I don't see that as an option for either these nabble lists or the google groups. For the google groups, we we could subscribe the old spark google groups to the apache lists (instead of using the new mirror groups I created). However the tradeoff is that as far as I can tell, we w

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-22 Thread Andy Konwinski
Per Matei's suggestion, I've set up two nabble archive lists, one to archive the apache dev list and one to archive the apache user list. user list archive: http://apache-spark-user-list.1001560.n3.nabble.com dev list archive: http://apache-spark-developers-list.1001551.n3.nabble.com Between thes

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick Wendell
Andy and Mike, I'd also prefer to just convert the old groups into mirrors. That way people who are still subscribed to them will continue to get e-mails (and most people on the list are read-only users). Ideally we'd have the behavior that users who try to e-mail the google group get a bounce ba

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-20 Thread Andy Konwinski
That would be really awesome. I'm not familiar with any Google Groups functionality that supports that but I'll look. That's an argument for maybe just changing the names of the existing groups to something with mirror in them instead of using newly created ones. On Dec 20, 2013 8:18 AM, "Mike Pot

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-19 Thread Matei Zaharia
Yes, I agree that we should close down the existing Google group on Jan 1st. While it’s more convenient to use, it’s created confusion. I hope that we can get the ASF to support better search interfaces in the future too. I think we just have to drive this from within. The Google Group should b

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-19 Thread Andy Konwinski
I've set up two new unofficial google groups to mirror the Apache Spark user and dev lists: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/apache-spark-dev-mirror https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/apache-spark-user-mirror Basically these lists each subscribe to the corresponding Apache list. They

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-19 Thread Aaron Davidson
I'd be fine with one-way mirrors here (Apache threads being reflected in Google groups) -- I have no idea how one is supposed to navigate the Apache list to look for historic threads. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Mike Potts wrote: > Thanks very much for the prompt and comprehensive reply!

Re: IMPORTANT: Spark mailing lists moving to Apache by September 1st

2013-12-19 Thread Andy Konwinski
Hey Mike, As you probably noticed when you CC'd spark-develop...@googlegroups.com, that list has already be reconfigured so that it no longer allows posting (and bounces emails sent to it). We will be doing the same thing to the spark-us...@googlegroups.com list too (we'll announce a date for tha