Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Dakota Jack
ve > > otherwise :-) is the one feature I miss from the old "C days", and it > can > > be > > a very elegant solution to certain problems --- just like recursion > (which > > I > > try to use sparingly as well). > > > > Enough :-) I li

RE: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Daniel Perry
so damm nice to anyone who's used c! Daniel. > > Just my .2 cents > Lucas > > - Original Message - > From: "Struts User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dakota Jack" > <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Dakota Jack
ing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dakota Jack" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: AW: talking about paradigms > > > I agree with Jack. There are pointers everywhere in Java. Java learns > > from C++

Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread DGraham
PROTECTED]> To "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc Subject AW: talking about paradigms Hi Eddie, thanx for your reply, I will put it in my poetry album, and reread eat, each time I'm asking myself about the sense of the living... Sad, but my p

Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Lucas Gonzalez Pearson
L PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: Re: AW: talking about paradigms > I agree with Jack. There are pointers everywhere in Java. Java learns > from C++ mistake by "hiding" error prone functionality such as > pointers. > > Joshua Block's

Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Struts User
I agree with Jack. There are pointers everywhere in Java. Java learns from C++ mistake by "hiding" error prone functionality such as pointers. Joshua Block's book is not a Java Book for beginner. It is target for experience developer. Probably you should look into Bruce Eckel's on-line book for mo

Re: AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Dakota Jack
Hello, Leon, There are pointers in Java. Every object is referenced by a pointer. Indeed, how else could an object be referenced? I am not sure why you cited Joshua Bloch's book on this. There is not, as Eddie said, pointer arithmetic. Jack On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:46:05 +0100, Rosenberg, Leo

AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Rosenberg, Leon
Hi Jack, I like you kind of "cashing out", but I think your diagram misses some points. In fact the view-controller itself is a view on the application model, where the business logic unit (which can be a component in a co-architecture i.e. session-bean) is the appropriate controller. So a comp

AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-16 Thread Rosenberg, Leon
lity of the developer to do what's right. > > Peace All, > > Eddie > > - Original Message - > From: "Rosenberg, Leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 15,

AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-15 Thread Rosenberg, Leon
> > No, but what about > > > > ? > > (not sure about the syntax). > whats the problem? > MVC usually allows 'read-only access to model' for the view > Also the question is, what you expose to the view. > If you are afraid that somebody will misuse the library entries - don't > expose them. > I

AW: talking about paradigms

2004-11-11 Thread Rosenberg, Leon
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. November 2004 11:04 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: Re: talking about paradigms > > I don't think EL breaks the MVC pattern. Although it leaves you free > to do so if you so wish