Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Dakota Jack
The burst in the number of committers has nothing to do with Struts. For the most part it is Craig bringing in people who had nothing to do with Struts out of JSF to work on Shale and give him voting power. Has Gary ever done anything with Struts? And, he is a Struts committer. That is the Strut

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Tue, April 25, 2006 12:36 am, Craig McClanahan said: > Without commenting on the merit of the proposal itself, or the reasoning > presented as its justification, it is important to note that we (the > Struts > community) do not have free reign to do whatever we want in this regard. > As > part o

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Tue, April 25, 2006 1:17 am, Craig McClanahan said: > The latter statement is, as mentioned in my previous response, the way > that > *all* projects at Apache work -- it is not unique to Struts. Any claim > that > all of Apache is broken in this regard is going to be, umm, unlikely to be > agr

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 4/25/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/24/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * Rationale > > One of the issues that a number of people seem to have with the way > > Struts has progressed is the seeming inability (or difficulty at least) > > of getting "

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Craig McClanahan wrote: On 4/24/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I look forward to feedback. Thanks for listening! Without commenting on the merit of the proposal itself, or the reasoning presented as its justification, it is important to note that we (the Struts community

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/24/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Rationale > One of the issues that a number of people seem to have with the way > Struts has progressed is the seeming inability (or difficulty at least) > of getting "new blood" involved. There seems to be a perception by many > that

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/24/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I look forward to feedback. Thanks for listening! Without commenting on the merit of the proposal itself, or the reasoning presented as its justification, it is important to note that we (the Struts community) do not have free reign

Proposal for change

2006-04-24 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Dear Struts community, We have seen a rash of what most people consider "noise" on these lists recently, and I can't deny that I was even part of some of it (although I hope somewhat more constructively than some). However, underlying the "noise" I feel were a few valid points worth consider