Re: switching to struts-el

2004-04-01 Thread P. Hill
Dean A. Hoover wrote: I have seen "JSTL in Action" on the bookshelves. Is that a good book on the subject? I found JSTL In Action to be a nice gentle introduction and includes some very good applications of JSTL, but the book is written for content providers and NOT for Java developers. So if you

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-31 Thread Bill Siggelkow
Wendy Smoak wrote: Another question for Bill, also on page 33: Why are you using the 'value' attribute of the tag? Struts should pre-populate the HTML form element based on the Form bean property, which would have been filled in when the form was submitted (or be blank if not). I haven't read t

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-31 Thread Bill Siggelkow
Thanks for the mention, Ted. As far as the Struts-EL calculator, the calculation is actually done by the CalcAction (Calc.do) -- not a helper bean. The calculation could have been done inline (using EL in the ) as with the JSTL calculator; however, in this case, I have the action to which the

RE: switching to struts-el

2004-03-31 Thread Wendy Smoak
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bill, > Your presentation, mentioned in another thread, is also very helpful. > http://www.jadecove.com/articles/jstl-and-struts.pdf Another question for Bill, also on page 33: Why are you using the 'value' attribute of the tag? Struts should p

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-31 Thread Ted Husted
Bill, Your presentation, mentioned in another thread, is also very helpful. http://www.jadecove.com/articles/jstl-and-struts.pdf Towards the end, you show a simple calculator implemented as JSP, Struts, Struts-EL, and JSTL. On page 33, the Struts-EL uses a "helper bean" to do the arithmetic. Th

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Bill Siggelkow
I feel your pain, Dean :) With the relatively rapid changes in Java/Web technology it is difficult for print material to keep up. I really liked JSTL in Action -- however, you may want to read the JSTL 1.1 spec to pick up the new features. I put out a JSTL Quick Reference that you might find

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Dean A. Hoover
Thanks Bill. That fixed the errors thing *and* allowed me to stop using the struts-el tags. I have "Struts in Action" and "JSP Tag Libraries" (from Manning) in my library and it looks like I will go ahead and get "JSTL in Action". In general, I like the Manning books. The one complaint I have abou

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Bill Siggelkow
Dean A. Hoover wrote: I'm not sure I understand what "the EL is already available" means. Tomcat 5 supports JSP 2.0 -- JSP 2.0 supports the use of Expression Language (EL) within template text. IIRC, Tomcat 5 will ignore EL on a JSP page if the web app referencs the Servlet 2.3 DTD -- however,

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Dean A. Hoover
. Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: switching to struts-el I am going to experiment with embracing struts-el. Is there any downside to this? Also, I am not currently up on JSTL. How would you recommend learning it? I have seen "

RE: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Karr, David
age- > From: Dean A. Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: switching to struts-el > > > I am going to experiment with embracing struts-el. > Is there any downside to this? Also, I am not > curren

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Mark Lowe
I believe so . I haven't been brave enough yet to move to tc5 but the el support is a good reason for me to do so. I think (haven't tried it) as you're using tc 5 you wont need the el struts tags as the expressions are evaluated before the tags, working much the same way as <%= foo.getBar() %>

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Dean A. Hoover
Thanks Mark. I am using Tomcat 5. So is the ${error} notation part of the latest JSP spec? Dean Mark Lowe wrote: I've got by using the appendix to struts in action. its a bit annoying but there seem no elegant way of drilling action errors but if error is scoped to the request or page then i

Re: switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Mark Lowe
I've got by using the appendix to struts in action. its a bit annoying but there seem no elegant way of drilling action errors but if error is scoped to the request or page then if you're using tomcat 5 then just ${error} as jsp2 doesn't require the c:out wrappers. On 30 Mar 2004, at 15:10,

switching to struts-el

2004-03-30 Thread Dean A. Hoover
I am going to experiment with embracing struts-el. Is there any downside to this? Also, I am not currently up on JSTL. How would you recommend learning it? I have seen "JSTL in Action" on the bookshelves. Is that a good book on the subject? One last thing: How do I express in JSTL? Thanks. Dean H