Re: Update views how to ?
You're welcome. If you look in the inside front cover of a book called professional java server pages by wrox press. It is a rather an old book now but wasn't when I first bought it. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Professional-Programming-JavaServer-Enterprise-Javaspaces/dp/1861002777 . ISBN-13: 978-1861002778, ISBN-10: 1861002777. Such an old book now, the price is now is next to nothing. £0.83 GBP. There is a top level design, diagrammatic view of technologies in the inside front cover. A person of your technological mind set and ability will see immediately what I mean. When I looked at it I always felt from experience and observation of application development (good and bad), JSPs , Bean in application container with Socket streams in web browser was the missing piece and was the route of the application thread travel. This application thread is both simple yet flexible whilst guaranteeing data integrity. On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, 12:13 Yasser Zamani, wrote: > Thank you so much Zahid! you made my day :) > > As far as I can recall there aren't too much to do to release Struts 2.6. > I hope it's going to be soon :) > > Regards. > > >-Original Message- > >From: Zahid Rahman > >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 2:10 PM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? > > > >The advantages you have outlined in file > > (quoted below) is > >precisely the reason for my post . Now I feel struts2 is a complete > framework for > >any imaginable application. Struts 2 is now a simple yet powerful , > adaptable > >framework. Please do what you need to do for version > >2.6 to refine the last piece. > > > > > > > > > >Example: A minimal chat room using server push Open current > >page in different tabs, browsers and computers then send messages. > >This is a minimal chat room which uses server push to retrieve new > >messages. > >It doesn't poll the server frequently to check if a new message is > available to > >display. > >Instead it waits for the server to push back new messages. This approach > has two > >obvious advantages: > >low-lag communication without requests being sent, and no waste of server > >resources and network bandwidth. > >Reference: https://www.javaworld.com/article/2077995/java-concurrency/java- > >concurrency-asynchronous-processing-support-in-servlet-3-0.html > >"> > >Asynchronous processing support in Servlet 3.0 > > > > > >On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, 08:09 Yasser Zamani, > wrote: > > > >> Hi Zahid, > >> > >> Additionally, AFAIK... > >> > >> If your users are a lot, then I think you have to wait for Struts 2.6 > >> release where I've added support for Async actions. For an instance > >> usage see my example at [1] (you can try it via running Struts 2.6 > >> snapshot showcase - it's a simple chat room i.e. classic usage of > server push). > >> > >> Otherwise or anyway, for now, you can try if Struts ExecAndWait is > >> able to handle your users. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> [1] > >> https://github.com/apache/struts/pull/179/commits/aee171c3b8ad40100661 > >> 2c4df44ed540fb2ed7e3 > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: M Huzaifah > >> >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:57 AM > >> >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >> >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? > >> > > >> >Hi, > >> > > >> >You should use stream mecanism for that case. What i've done, i used > >> >JMS, message-broker, which mean the browser always listen to > >> >message-broker > >> server > >> >using websocket (STOMP,AMQP,etc). When backend push message to the > >> >broker server, browser automatically receive and render the message > >> >to the > >> browser. I > >> >use ActiveMQ over MQTT, and render the message using javascript in > >> browser. > >> > > >> >You can find another stream mecanism or reactive application example > >> >out > >> there. > >> > > >> >Regards > >> > > >> >On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 10:06 Zahid Rahman wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I have an admin screen (jsp) where the administrator updates > >> >> values > >> i.e. > >> >> current weather temperature, cricket , football score, death > >> >> counter showing people killed by knife crime in a city, natural > >> >> causes , car accidents etc. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I have at least two users who are looking at the current > >> >> temperature or game score etc. (JSP). > >> >> > >> >> Once the administrator updates the values , the data viewed by the > >> >> two users In their browser is now stale data , due to the fact the > >> >> web browser is based on a stateless pull model. > >> >> > >> >> Is there an example app or maven archetype which shows how I can > >> >> update or refresh the views (JSPs viewed in browser) in all the > >> >> user sessions [views ] from inside the running application server > >> >> using the > >> >> struts2 framework. > >> >> > >> >
RE: Update views how to ?
Thank you so much Zahid! you made my day :) As far as I can recall there aren't too much to do to release Struts 2.6. I hope it's going to be soon :) Regards. >-Original Message- >From: Zahid Rahman >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 2:10 PM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? > >The advantages you have outlined in file > (quoted below) is >precisely the reason for my post . Now I feel struts2 is a complete framework >for >any imaginable application. Struts 2 is now a simple yet powerful , adaptable >framework. Please do what you need to do for version >2.6 to refine the last piece. > > > > >Example: A minimal chat room using server push Open current >page in different tabs, browsers and computers then send messages. >This is a minimal chat room which uses server push to retrieve new >messages. >It doesn't poll the server frequently to check if a new message is available to >display. >Instead it waits for the server to push back new messages. This approach has >two >obvious advantages: >low-lag communication without requests being sent, and no waste of server >resources and network bandwidth. >Reference: https://www.javaworld.com/article/2077995/java-concurrency/java- >concurrency-asynchronous-processing-support-in-servlet-3-0.html >"> >Asynchronous processing support in Servlet 3.0 > > >On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, 08:09 Yasser Zamani, wrote: > >> Hi Zahid, >> >> Additionally, AFAIK... >> >> If your users are a lot, then I think you have to wait for Struts 2.6 >> release where I've added support for Async actions. For an instance >> usage see my example at [1] (you can try it via running Struts 2.6 >> snapshot showcase - it's a simple chat room i.e. classic usage of server >> push). >> >> Otherwise or anyway, for now, you can try if Struts ExecAndWait is >> able to handle your users. >> >> Regards. >> >> [1] >> https://github.com/apache/struts/pull/179/commits/aee171c3b8ad40100661 >> 2c4df44ed540fb2ed7e3 >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: M Huzaifah >> >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:57 AM >> >To: Struts Users Mailing List >> >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? >> > >> >Hi, >> > >> >You should use stream mecanism for that case. What i've done, i used >> >JMS, message-broker, which mean the browser always listen to >> >message-broker >> server >> >using websocket (STOMP,AMQP,etc). When backend push message to the >> >broker server, browser automatically receive and render the message >> >to the >> browser. I >> >use ActiveMQ over MQTT, and render the message using javascript in >> browser. >> > >> >You can find another stream mecanism or reactive application example >> >out >> there. >> > >> >Regards >> > >> >On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 10:06 Zahid Rahman wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have an admin screen (jsp) where the administrator updates >> >> values >> i.e. >> >> current weather temperature, cricket , football score, death >> >> counter showing people killed by knife crime in a city, natural >> >> causes , car accidents etc. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have at least two users who are looking at the current >> >> temperature or game score etc. (JSP). >> >> >> >> Once the administrator updates the values , the data viewed by the >> >> two users In their browser is now stale data , due to the fact the >> >> web browser is based on a stateless pull model. >> >> >> >> Is there an example app or maven archetype which shows how I can >> >> update or refresh the views (JSPs viewed in browser) in all the >> >> user sessions [views ] from inside the running application server >> >> using the >> >> struts2 framework. >> >> >>
Re: Update views how to ?
The advantages you have outlined in file (quoted below) is precisely the reason for my post . Now I feel struts2 is a complete framework for any imaginable application. Struts 2 is now a simple yet powerful , adaptable framework. Please do what you need to do for version 2.6 to refine the last piece. Example: A minimal chat room using server push Open current page in different tabs, browsers and computers then send messages. This is a minimal chat room which uses server push to retrieve new messages. It doesn't poll the server frequently to check if a new message is available to display. Instead it waits for the server to push back new messages. This approach has two obvious advantages: low-lag communication without requests being sent, and no waste of server resources and network bandwidth. Reference: https://www.javaworld.com/article/2077995/java-concurrency/java-concurrency-asynchronous-processing-support-in-servlet-3-0.html "> Asynchronous processing support in Servlet 3.0 On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, 08:09 Yasser Zamani, wrote: > Hi Zahid, > > Additionally, AFAIK... > > If your users are a lot, then I think you have to wait for Struts 2.6 > release where I've added support for Async actions. For an instance usage > see my example at [1] (you can try it via running Struts 2.6 snapshot > showcase - it's a simple chat room i.e. classic usage of server push). > > Otherwise or anyway, for now, you can try if Struts ExecAndWait is able to > handle your users. > > Regards. > > [1] > https://github.com/apache/struts/pull/179/commits/aee171c3b8ad401006612c4df44ed540fb2ed7e3 > > >-Original Message- > >From: M Huzaifah > >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:57 AM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? > > > >Hi, > > > >You should use stream mecanism for that case. What i've done, i used JMS, > >message-broker, which mean the browser always listen to message-broker > server > >using websocket (STOMP,AMQP,etc). When backend push message to the broker > >server, browser automatically receive and render the message to the > browser. I > >use ActiveMQ over MQTT, and render the message using javascript in > browser. > > > >You can find another stream mecanism or reactive application example out > there. > > > >Regards > > > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 10:06 Zahid Rahman wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have an admin screen (jsp) where the administrator updates values > i.e. > >> current weather temperature, cricket , football score, death counter > >> showing people killed by knife crime in a city, natural causes , car > >> accidents etc. > >> > >> > >> I have at least two users who are looking at the current temperature > >> or game score etc. (JSP). > >> > >> Once the administrator updates the values , the data viewed by the two > >> users In their browser is now stale data , due to the fact the web > >> browser is based on a stateless pull model. > >> > >> Is there an example app or maven archetype which shows how I can > >> update or refresh the views (JSPs viewed in browser) in all the user > >> sessions [views ] from inside the running application server using the > >> struts2 framework. > >> >
RE: Update views how to ?
Hi Zahid, Additionally, AFAIK... If your users are a lot, then I think you have to wait for Struts 2.6 release where I've added support for Async actions. For an instance usage see my example at [1] (you can try it via running Struts 2.6 snapshot showcase - it's a simple chat room i.e. classic usage of server push). Otherwise or anyway, for now, you can try if Struts ExecAndWait is able to handle your users. Regards. [1] https://github.com/apache/struts/pull/179/commits/aee171c3b8ad401006612c4df44ed540fb2ed7e3 >-Original Message- >From: M Huzaifah >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:57 AM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: Update views how to ? > >Hi, > >You should use stream mecanism for that case. What i've done, i used JMS, >message-broker, which mean the browser always listen to message-broker server >using websocket (STOMP,AMQP,etc). When backend push message to the broker >server, browser automatically receive and render the message to the browser. I >use ActiveMQ over MQTT, and render the message using javascript in browser. > >You can find another stream mecanism or reactive application example out there. > >Regards > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 10:06 Zahid Rahman wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have an admin screen (jsp) where the administrator updates values i.e. >> current weather temperature, cricket , football score, death counter >> showing people killed by knife crime in a city, natural causes , car >> accidents etc. >> >> >> I have at least two users who are looking at the current temperature >> or game score etc. (JSP). >> >> Once the administrator updates the values , the data viewed by the two >> users In their browser is now stale data , due to the fact the web >> browser is based on a stateless pull model. >> >> Is there an example app or maven archetype which shows how I can >> update or refresh the views (JSPs viewed in browser) in all the user >> sessions [views ] from inside the running application server using the >> struts2 framework. >>
