Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-11-11 Thread Balaco Baco
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 05:46, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 31.10.2015 um 02:12 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > I do not have a final working step by step from zero until now. One is
> > giving compiling errors. The working UML (unknown origin, I don't know
> > how I made that before) + Debian64 downloaded (and how changed a bit
> > after booting it)... but it has no network, and I don't know why is
> > that. Can you tell? Not even a ping works: "Network is unreachable". The
> > host machine is normal, of course.
> 
> As with any virtual machine you need to connect your VM somehow to your
> host.
> tap is a common way. The website has instructions. Old, but still valid.
> 

I just saw this unread message. And there is a few things to say about
this one. :)

Some old instructions in the website do not work. For example, the
kernel version used there was not practical for me. And you also said
it's too old - although I won't mind that fact alone.

> > Basic question: how to shutdown a running UML? How are we suppose to do
> > it? Running 'shutdown now' from that Debian does not turn it off. Must I
> > open another SSH session to kill it, or just close the session if
> > nothing else is needed?
> 
> What about "poweroff"? As with any Linux.
>

I have never heard about poweroff. In all the years I have used linux
(more than a decade) I always used shutdown to... to turn off the
computer (I would say "to shutdown"... but that would be too funny
here).

Debian has poweroff too. It worked. :-/ (but I swear I never used it...
and "shutdown now" always worked in real machines, to turn them off...)
 
> > I'm used http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/source.html as a base to
> > what I have done (although I "updated" the suggested version there, as
> > discussed before). And changed almost nothing in the default config
> > before compiling...
> > 
> > When I have something that works, that source.html page is easy to
> > improve and needs many changes. Output of wget... not useful at all - we
> > surely can assume users will know how to download and extract files,
> > right?
> 
> I assume that an user is able to build a kernel.
> 

Fair enough. But I think that UML should be also aimed at users without
much knowledge in kernel compilation because sometimes we could just
want a virtual and easy, although safe, "root power". The reason why I'm
trying to get UML to work right now is one of these cases.

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Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-31 Thread Thomas Meyer

Am 31.10.2015 4:39 vorm. schrieb Balaco Baco :
>
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote: 
> > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote: 
> > >> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just 
> > >> >> > > >> > retried with 
> > >> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases 
> > >> >> > > >> > I detailed 
> > >> >> > > >> > before that end with error. 
> > >> >> > > >> > 
> > >> >> > > >> 
> > >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY? 
> > >> >> > > 
> > >> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel. 
> > >> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere. 
> > >> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/ 
> > >> >> > > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were 
> > >> >> > downloaded 
> > >> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS 
> > >> >> > this 
> > >> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be 
> > >> >> > supported 
> > >> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed. 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? 
> > >> >> > This 
> > >> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that 
> > >> >> > the 
> > >> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to 
> > >> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have 
> > >> >> > done 
> > >> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need 
> > >> >> > much 
> > >> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it. 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed 
> > >> > right 
> > >> > now. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and 
> > >> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and 
> > >> > think 
> > >> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but 
> > >> > gives 
> > >> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing 
> > >> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to 
> > >> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to 
> > >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS 
> > >> > (pointing to 
> > >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are 
> > >> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, 
> > >> > now 
> > >> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to 
> > >> > solution, 
> > >> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows 
> > >> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be 
> > >> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users 
> > >> > can be sure their setup is good enough. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and 
> > >> > assumed 
> > >> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And 
> > >> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've 
> > >> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I 
> > >> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very 
> > >> > start. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the 
> > >> > UML website, right? 
> > >> 
> > >> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time. 
> > >> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful. 
> > >> 
> > >> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this. 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > Really?! I would never bet that it was that old. 
> > > 
> > > I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge 
> > > and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would 
> > > need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept 
> > > correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have 
> > > not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things, 
> > > although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML 
> > > seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read 
> > > here. 
> > > 
> > > At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations? 
> > > Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month 
> > > should not look too bad. 
> > > 
> > > What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we 
> > > continue to talk about it between us. 
> > 
> > Create a concept and share it. :-) 
> > 
>
> I do not have a final working step by step from zero until now. One is 
> giving compiling erro

Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-30 Thread Balaco Baco
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried 
> >> >> > > >> > with
> >> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I 
> >> >> > > >> > detailed
> >> >> > > >> > before that end with error.
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel.
> >> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere.
> >> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded
> >> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this
> >> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be 
> >> >> > supported
> >> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? 
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the
> >> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to
> >> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done
> >> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much
> >> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates.
> >> >
> >> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right
> >> > now.
> >> >
> >> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and
> >> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think
> >> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives
> >> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing
> >> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to
> >> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to
> >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS
> >> > (pointing to
> >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are
> >> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now
> >> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution,
> >> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope.
> >> >
> >> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows
> >> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be
> >> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users
> >> > can be sure their setup is good enough.
> >> >
> >> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed
> >> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And
> >> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've
> >> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I
> >> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very
> >> > start.
> >> >
> >> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the
> >> > UML website, right?
> >>
> >> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time.
> >> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful.
> >>
> >> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this.
> >>
> >
> > Really?! I would never bet that it was that old.
> >
> > I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge
> > and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would
> > need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept
> > correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have
> > not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things,
> > although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML
> > seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read
> > here.
> >
> > At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations?
> > Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month
> > should not look too bad.
> >
> > What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we
> > continue to talk about it between us.
> 
> Create a concept and share it. :-)
> 

I do not have a final working step by step from zero until now. One is
giving compiling errors. The working UML (unknown origin, I don't know
how I made that before) + Debian64 downloaded (and how changed a bit
after booting it)... but it has no network, and I don't know why is
that. Can you tell? Not even a ping works: "Network is unreachable". The
host machine is normal, of course.

Basic question: how to shutdown a running UML? How are we suppose to do
it? Running 'shutdown now' from that Debian does not turn it off. Must I
open an

Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-30 Thread Balaco Baco
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried 
> >> >> > > >> > with
> >> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I 
> >> >> > > >> > detailed
> >> >> > > >> > before that end with error.
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel.
> >> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere.
> >> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded
> >> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this
> >> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be 
> >> >> > supported
> >> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? 
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the
> >> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to
> >> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done
> >> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much
> >> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates.
> >> >
> >> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right
> >> > now.
> >> >
> >> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and
> >> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think
> >> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives
> >> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing
> >> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to
> >> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to
> >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS
> >> > (pointing to
> >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are
> >> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now
> >> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution,
> >> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope.
> >> >
> >> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows
> >> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be
> >> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users
> >> > can be sure their setup is good enough.
> >> >
> >> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed
> >> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And
> >> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've
> >> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I
> >> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very
> >> > start.
> >> >
> >> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the
> >> > UML website, right?
> >>
> >> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time.
> >> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful.
> >>
> >> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this.
> >>
> >
> > Really?! I would never bet that it was that old.
> >
> > I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge
> > and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would
> > need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept
> > correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have
> > not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things,
> > although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML
> > seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read
> > here.
> >
> > At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations?
> > Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month
> > should not look too bad.
> >
> > What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we
> > continue to talk about it between us.
> 
> Create a concept and share it. :-)
> 

I do not have a final working step by step from zero until now. One is
giving compiling errors. The working UML (unknown origin, I don't know
how I made that before) + Debian64 downloaded (and how changed a bit
after booting it)... but it has no network, and I don't know why is
that. Can you tell? Not even a ping works: "Network is unreachable". The
host machine is normal, of course.

Basic question: how to shutdown a running UML? How are we suppose to do
it? Running 'shutdown now' from that Debian does not turn it off. Must I
open an

Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Weinberger
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
>> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried 
>> >> > > >> > with
>> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I 
>> >> > > >> > detailed
>> >> > > >> > before that end with error.
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel.
>> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere.
>> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded
>> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this
>> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be supported
>> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed.
>> >>
>> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? This
>> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the
>> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to
>> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done
>> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much
>> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it.
>> >>
>> >> Everything that gets -stable updates.
>> >
>> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right
>> > now.
>> >
>> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and
>> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think
>> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives
>> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing
>> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to
>> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to
>> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS
>> > (pointing to
>> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are
>> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now
>> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution,
>> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope.
>> >
>> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows
>> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be
>> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users
>> > can be sure their setup is good enough.
>> >
>> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed
>> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And
>> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've
>> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I
>> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very
>> > start.
>> >
>> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the
>> > UML website, right?
>>
>> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time.
>> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful.
>>
>> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this.
>>
>
> Really?! I would never bet that it was that old.
>
> I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge
> and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would
> need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept
> correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have
> not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things,
> although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML
> seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read
> here.
>
> At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations?
> Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month
> should not look too bad.
>
> What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we
> continue to talk about it between us.

Create a concept and share it. :-)

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Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-30 Thread Michael Richardson

Please, at least mark the info as being OLD OLD OLD.
90% of it is unnecessary.


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Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-29 Thread Balaco Baco

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried with
> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I 
> >> > > >> > detailed
> >> > > >> > before that end with error.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY?
> >> > >
> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel.
> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere.
> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded
> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this
> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be supported
> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed.
> >>
> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? This
> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the
> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to
> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done
> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much
> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it.
> >>
> >> Everything that gets -stable updates.
> >
> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right
> > now.
> >
> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and
> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think
> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives
> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing
> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to
> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to
> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS
> > (pointing to
> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are
> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now
> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution,
> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope.
> >
> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows
> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be
> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users
> > can be sure their setup is good enough.
> >
> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed
> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And
> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've
> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I
> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very
> > start.
> >
> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the
> > UML website, right?
> 
> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time.
> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful.
> 
> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this.
> 

Really?! I would never bet that it was that old.

I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge
and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would
need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept
correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have
not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things,
although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML
seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read
here.

At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations?
Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month
should not look too bad.

What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we
continue to talk about it between us.


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Re: [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?

2015-10-29 Thread Richard Weinberger
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco  wrote:
>> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried with
>> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I 
>> > > >> > detailed
>> > > >> > before that end with error.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY?
>> > >
>> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel.
>> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere.
>> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/
>> > >
>> >
>> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded
>> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this
>> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be supported
>> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed.
>>
>> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? This
>> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the
>> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to
>> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done
>> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much
>> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it.
>>
>> Everything that gets -stable updates.
>
> Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right
> now.
>
> "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and
> still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think
> the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives
> bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing
> the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to
> get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to
> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS
> (pointing to
> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are
> these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now
> I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution,
> to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope.
>
> The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows
> this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be
> updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users
> can be sure their setup is good enough.
>
> I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed
> best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And
> the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've
> forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I
> compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very
> start.
>
> Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the
> UML website, right?

The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time.
If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful.

I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this.

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