Re: Spread Kafka sink tasks over different nodes

2018-03-06 Thread Dongwon Kim
Hi Aljoscha and Robert,

You guys are right.
I resubmit the application with # session window tasks equal to # Kafka sink 
tasks.
I never thought that multiple different Kafka tasks can write to the same 
partition.

Initially, I do not set the default parallelism and I explicitly set # 
partitions of each stage.
This decision naturally led me to set # Kafka sink stage to # of Kafka 
partitions.

Sorry for the confusion :-)

Best,

Dongwon


> 2018. 3. 6. 오후 10:28, Aljoscha Krettek  작성:
> 
> Hi Dongwon,
> 
> I think there is currently no way of ensuring that tasks are spread out 
> across different machines because the scheduling logic does not take into 
> account what machine a slot is on. I currently see two workarounds:
> 
> - Let all operations have the same parallelism and only have 8 slots in your 
> cluster in total
> - Let your sinks have parallelism 224 (same as the windows). I think multiple 
> sinks writing to the same Kafka partition should not be a problem. Unless 
> that's a problem in your setup, of course.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Best,
> Aljoscha
> 
>> On 2. Mar 2018, at 06:55, Dongwon Kim  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We have a standalone cluster where 1 JM and 7 TMs are running on 8 servers.
>> We have total 224 cores (as each TM has 32 slots) and we want to use all 
>> slots for a single streaming job.
>> 
>> The single job roughly consists of the following three types of tasks:
>> - Kafka source tasks (Parallelism : 7 as the number of partitions in the 
>> input topic is 7)
>> - Session window tasks (Parallelism : 224)
>> - Kafka sink tasks (Parallelism : 7  as the number of partitions in the 
>> output topic is 7)
>> 
>> We want 7 sources and 7 sinks to be evenly scheduled over different nodes.
>> Source tasks are scheduled as wanted (see "1 source.png").
>> <1 source.png>
>> 
>> However, sink tasks are scheduled on a single node (see "2 sink.png").
>> <2 sink.png>
>> 
>> As we use the whole standalone only for a single job, this scheduling 
>> behavior causes the output of all the 224 session window tasks to be sent to 
>> a single physical machine.
>> 
>> Is it because locality is only considered in Kafka source?
>> I also check that different partitions are taken care by different brokers 
>> for both of the input topic and the output topic in Kafka.
>> 
>> Do I miss something in order to spread Kafka sink tasks over different nodes?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> - Dongwon
> 



Re: Spread Kafka sink tasks over different nodes

2018-03-06 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
Hi Dongwon,

I think there is currently no way of ensuring that tasks are spread out across 
different machines because the scheduling logic does not take into account what 
machine a slot is on. I currently see two workarounds:

 - Let all operations have the same parallelism and only have 8 slots in your 
cluster in total
 - Let your sinks have parallelism 224 (same as the windows). I think multiple 
sinks writing to the same Kafka partition should not be a problem. Unless 
that's a problem in your setup, of course.

What do you think?

Best,
Aljoscha

> On 2. Mar 2018, at 06:55, Dongwon Kim  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have a standalone cluster where 1 JM and 7 TMs are running on 8 servers.
> We have total 224 cores (as each TM has 32 slots) and we want to use all 
> slots for a single streaming job.
> 
> The single job roughly consists of the following three types of tasks:
> - Kafka source tasks (Parallelism : 7 as the number of partitions in the 
> input topic is 7)
> - Session window tasks (Parallelism : 224)
> - Kafka sink tasks (Parallelism : 7  as the number of partitions in the 
> output topic is 7)
> 
> We want 7 sources and 7 sinks to be evenly scheduled over different nodes.
> Source tasks are scheduled as wanted (see "1 source.png").
> <1 source.png>
> 
> However, sink tasks are scheduled on a single node (see "2 sink.png").
> <2 sink.png>
> 
> As we use the whole standalone only for a single job, this scheduling 
> behavior causes the output of all the 224 session window tasks to be sent to 
> a single physical machine.
> 
> Is it because locality is only considered in Kafka source?
> I also check that different partitions are taken care by different brokers 
> for both of the input topic and the output topic in Kafka.
> 
> Do I miss something in order to spread Kafka sink tasks over different nodes?
> 
> Best,
> 
> - Dongwon