Hi Dietrich,

Txs for the valuable feedback !   Much appreciated.

(1) should the Haddock template replace the existing default template in
the long term?
>> Probably it will.
>> For now we keep both,  but only the Haddock template is actively being
developed.

(2) are there efforts, to port the so-called "skins" of the default
template (for example CleanBlue) also for
Haddock Template?
>> I removed the concept of skins from the Haddock template, introducing
the notion of "themes".
>> You can use the  %%add-css style  to modify any style of the template;
from within a wiki-page.
>> I've quickly build an example page
https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Clean%20Blue%20Theme to show
what could be possible.

(3) Usability:
(3a) why does the history only appear when the mouse is moved into an area?
(3b) Why is there no input field for the search? Instead, the mouse must
be moved to a symbol, then you have to wait, then the mouse on
Input field are moved and clicked with the left mouse button.
That's what I call awkward!
>> History/Breadcrumbs are only shown on hover, to avoid clutter of the
header section.
>> Initially I wanted to remove the breadcrumbs from the template,  as a
user mostly use the browser history.
>> Any suggestions of a better way to show them?

>> Search input field / aka Quick Navigation :
>> I agree that the current UI could be improved, as it may not be obvious
for a new site visitor.
>> Better would be to have only one SEARCH UI  (Quick Navigation + Search
Page) instead of two.
>> And the search functionality should be reached after a mouse click,
instead of a hover effect. (more common pattern used on the internet)
>> This also would work better on mobile devices.


(4) Internationalization: the name of the page is displayed at the top of
the page,
especially on the pages LoginHelp, EditPageHelp, SearchPageHelp, TitleBox,
MoreMenu,
HomeMenu, CopyrightNotice, SessionExpired. These page names must be
translatable.
See the attachment how arkward it looks when using german.
>> JSPWiki does not support (yet) localisation of pages.

>> As a work-around, you could put an ALIAS on the standard pages
>> This would automatically redirect to the german version of the standard
pages.
     [{SET alias="<german name of page>"}]

>> As a future improvement, we could consider to extend the IfPlugin with
some basic support for localization
     [{If language="de" alias="XXXX" }]
     The language would then be compared with the language chosen in the
UserPreferences.

(5) Adaptability: The top left pictogram must be replaceable with a company
logo.
Where can I find the documentation, how it works?
>> I've added a documentation how to do this:
https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=How%20to%20change%20the%20site%20logo


BR,
    dirk


On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Schmidt Dietrich <dietrich.schm...@gevas.de
> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I evaluate the Haddock template for productive use
> and have some questions / comments.
>
> (1) should the Haddock template replace the existing default template in
> the long term?
>
> (2) are there efforts, to port the so-called "skins" of the default
> template (for example CleanBlue) also for
> Haddock Template?
>
> (3) Usability:
> (3a) why does the history only appear when the mouse is moved into an area?
> (3b) Why is there no input field for the search? Instead, the mouse must
> be moved to a symbol, then you have to wait, then the mouse on
> Input field are moved and clicked with the left mouse button.
> That's what I call awkward!
>
> (4) Internationalization: the name of the page is displayed at the top of
> the page,
> especially on the pages LoginHelp, EditPageHelp, SearchPageHelp, TitleBox,
> MoreMenu,
> HomeMenu, CopyrightNotice, SessionExpired. These page names must be
> translatable.
> See the attachment how arkward it looks when using german.
>
> (5) Adaptability: The top left pictogram must be replaceable with a
> company logo.
> Where can I find the documentation, how it works?
>
> best regards
> Dietrich Schmidt
>
> P.S. this ist the google translation oft the german original found further
> down.
>
> Hallo,
>
> ich evaluiere das Haddock Template für den produktieven Einsatz
> und habe einige Fragen/Anmerkungen.
>
> (1) soll das Haddock Template langfristig das bisherige default Template
> ersetzen?
>
> (2) gibt es Bemühungen, die sog. "Skins" des default Template (z.B.
> CleanBlue) auch zum
> Haddock Template hinzuzufügen?
>
> (3) Benutzerfreundlichkeit:
> (3a) warum wird der Verlauf nur angezeigt, wenn die Maus in einen Bereich
> bewegt wird?
> (3b) Warum gibt es kein Eingabefeld für die Suche? Statt dessen muß die
> Maus
> auf ein Symbol bewegt werden, dann muß gewartet werden, dann die Maus auf
> ein
> Eingabefeld bewegt werden und mit der linken Maustaste geklickt werden.
> Das nenne ich umständlich!
>
> (4) Internationalisierung: Der Name der Seite wird am oberen Seitenrand
> angezeigt,
> insbesondere auch bei den Seiten LoginHelp, EditPageHelp, SearchPageHelp,
> TitleBox, MoreMenu,
> HomeMenu, CopyrightNotice, SessionExpired. Diese Seitennamen müssen
> übersetztbar sein.
> Siehe den Anhang, wie schrecklich das aussieht in Deutsch.
>
> (5) Anpassbarkeit: Das Piktogramm links oben muß durch ein Firmen-Logo
> ersetztbar sein.
> Wo finde ich die Dokumentation, wie das funktioniert?
>
> mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Dietrich Schmidt
>
> --
>
> Dietrich Schmidt
> GEVAS software GmbH
>

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