Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

2022-01-17 Thread Bikas Saha 
Hi Akshat,

How about taking a stab at the items in this checklist.
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

Thanks
Bikas


From: Akshat Bordia 
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2021 10:32 PM
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
; [email protected] 
; [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

Hi Bikas,

+1 for graduating the project. I would be willing to help with the graduation 
checklist and other contributions.

Thanks,
Akshat

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Bikas,

As always, I’m happy to help.

Regards
JB

> Le 13 juin 2021 à 02:03, Bikas Saha 
> mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>
> Hi all,
>
> For the project to graduate or continue without retiring it needs 3 PMCs who 
> will be taking care of the project (like regular releases etc.).
> To graduate, it needs a volunteer to complete the tasks required in the 
> graduation checklist - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
> Folks willing to volunteer please reply to this thread. Without that I am 
> afraid the project might have to retire or force to be retired by the 
> Incubator.
>
> Thanks
> Bikas
>
> 
> From: Renat Bekbolatov 
> mailto:[email protected]>.INVALID>
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:01 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> mailto:[email protected]>>; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
>
> Thanks for bringing this up Bikas!
>
> I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or 
> another.
>
> Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can reach and 
> discuss how we can make this happen?
>
> Thanks,
> Renat
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
>
> Hi Bikas,
>
> Thanks for bringing this here.
>
> I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity starting 
> from now.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha 
>> mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial design 
>> goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be widely 
>> used by many organizations and users. However, project development has been 
>> inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative stability of 
>> the code base.
>>
>> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating status
>>
>> 1.  Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its release 
>> process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc willing to 
>> continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to complete the 
>> graduation checklist and help move the project through the graduation 
>> process.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qWskl1tWyOOrfekmRgmf%2FqZ5VfEhVQmy0gBATV%2FiMck%3D&reserved=0
>> 2.  Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by the 
>> ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new 
>> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user 
>> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21 
>> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw

Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

2021-11-28 Thread Akshat Bordia 
Hi Bikas,

+1 for graduating the project. I would be willing to help with the
graduation checklist and other contributions.

Thanks,
Akshat

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
wrote:

> Hi Bikas,
>
> As always, I’m happy to help.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 13 juin 2021 à 02:03, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For the project to graduate or continue without retiring it needs 3 PMCs
> who will be taking care of the project (like regular releases etc.).
> > To graduate, it needs a volunteer to complete the tasks required in the
> graduation checklist - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> >
> > Folks willing to volunteer please reply to this thread. Without that I
> am afraid the project might have to retire or force to be retired by the
> Incubator.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bikas
> >
> > 
> > From: Renat Bekbolatov 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:01 PM
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Cc: [email protected] ;
> [email protected] 
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> >
> > Thanks for bringing this up Bikas!
> >
> > I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or
> another.
> >
> > Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can
> reach and discuss how we can make this happen?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Renat
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> >
> > Hi Bikas,
> >
> > Thanks for bringing this here.
> >
> > I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity
> starting from now.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial
> design goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be
> widely used by many organizations and users. However, project development
> has been inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative
> stability of the code base.
> >>
> >> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating
> status
> >>
> >> 1.  Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its
> release process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc
> willing to continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to
> complete the graduation checklist and help move the project through the
> graduation process.
> >>*
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qWskl1tWyOOrfekmRgmf%2FqZ5VfEhVQmy0gBATV%2FiMck%3D&reserved=0
> >> 2.  Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by
> the ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new
> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user
> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21
> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations.
> >>*
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Fk%2BDZHPKVn0ZAxJXozWtFaK2lT7zU67JzHjcxqwZ94s%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >> What does the community think about this situation and how to proceed?
> Should we graduate or retire?
> >>
> >> When supporting graduation, please indicate willingness to drive the
> graduation process and subsequently participate in the project pmc.
> >>
> >> Bikas
> >>
> >
>
>

-- 
Regards,
Akshat Bordia
Email id : [email protected]

Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

2021-06-12 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
Hi Bikas,

As always, I’m happy to help.

Regards
JB

> Le 13 juin 2021 à 02:03, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> For the project to graduate or continue without retiring it needs 3 PMCs who 
> will be taking care of the project (like regular releases etc.).
> To graduate, it needs a volunteer to complete the tasks required in the 
> graduation checklist - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> 
> Folks willing to volunteer please reply to this thread. Without that I am 
> afraid the project might have to retire or force to be retired by the 
> Incubator.
> 
> Thanks
> Bikas
> 
> 
> From: Renat Bekbolatov 
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:01 PM
> To: [email protected] 
> Cc: [email protected] ; 
> [email protected] 
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up Bikas!
> 
> I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or 
> another.
> 
> Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can reach and 
> discuss how we can make this happen?
> 
> Thanks,
> Renat
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> 
> Hi Bikas,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this here.
> 
> I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity starting 
> from now.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial design 
>> goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be widely 
>> used by many organizations and users. However, project development has been 
>> inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative stability of 
>> the code base.
>> 
>> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating status
>> 
>> 1.  Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its release 
>> process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc willing to 
>> continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to complete the 
>> graduation checklist and help move the project through the graduation 
>> process.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qWskl1tWyOOrfekmRgmf%2FqZ5VfEhVQmy0gBATV%2FiMck%3D&reserved=0
>> 2.  Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by the 
>> ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new 
>> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user 
>> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21 
>> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Fk%2BDZHPKVn0ZAxJXozWtFaK2lT7zU67JzHjcxqwZ94s%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> What does the community think about this situation and how to proceed? 
>> Should we graduate or retire?
>> 
>> When supporting graduation, please indicate willingness to drive the 
>> graduation process and subsequently participate in the project pmc.
>> 
>> Bikas
>> 
>

RE: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

2021-06-03 Thread Renat Bekbolatov 
Yes, that makes sense.

Thanks,
Renat

-Original Message-
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre  
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

Hi,

I think it's more valuable to have messages on the mailing list more than a 
meeting. The reason is that it's easier to archive and count the activity on 
the mailing list. So, these numbers could be interesting as argument for 
graduation.

Regards
JB

> Le 4 juin 2021 à 07:01, Renat Bekbolatov  a écrit :
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up Bikas!
> 
> I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or 
> another.
> 
> Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can reach and 
> discuss how we can make this happen?
> 
> Thanks,
> Renat
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre mailto:[email protected]>> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> 
> Hi Bikas,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this here.
> 
> I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity starting 
> from now.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial design 
>> goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be widely 
>> used by many organizations and users. However, project development has been 
>> inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative stability of 
>> the code base.
>> 
>> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating status
>> 
>> 1.  Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its release 
>> process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc willing to 
>> continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to complete the 
>> graduation checklist and help move the project through the graduation 
>> process.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327660521%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=I3MqK4%2Bq1QUniN5dH0GGQY%2FR1wY5uovqcg%2BsHk6MZoY%3D&reserved=0
>>  
>> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=t59rnMMVtJpk8hYBec720Jw%2FakFFAQ7BAKV%2BMt5rfCI%3D&reserved=0>
>> 2.  Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by the 
>> ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new 
>> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user 
>> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21 
>> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2BDcnNzp%2Bn41DJPWpSczDRXMN4JT3VlurX4Y%2BnI%2BYX5E%3D&reserved=0
>>  
>> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2BDcnNzp%2Bn41DJPWpSczDRXMN4JT3VlurX4Y%2BnI%2BYX5E%3D&reserved=0>
>> 
>> What does the community think about this situation and how to proceed? 
>> Should we graduate or retire?
>> 
>> When supporting graduation, please indicate willingness to drive the 
>> graduation process and subsequently participate in the project pmc.
>> 
>> Bikas

Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire

2021-06-03 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre 
Hi,

I think it’s more valuable to have messages on the mailing list more than a 
meeting. The reason is that it’s easier to archive and count the activity on 
the mailing list. So, these numbers could be interesting as argument for 
graduation.

Regards
JB

> Le 4 juin 2021 à 07:01, Renat Bekbolatov  a écrit :
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up Bikas!
> 
> I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or 
> another.
> 
> Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can reach and 
> discuss how we can make this happen?
> 
> Thanks,
> Renat
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre mailto:[email protected]>> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected] 
> Cc: [email protected] ; 
> [email protected] 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire
> 
> Hi Bikas,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this here.
> 
> I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity starting 
> from now.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial design 
>> goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be widely 
>> used by many organizations and users. However, project development has been 
>> inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative stability of 
>> the code base.
>> 
>> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating status
>> 
>> 1.  Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its release 
>> process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc willing to 
>> continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to complete the 
>> graduation checklist and help move the project through the graduation 
>> process.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qWskl1tWyOOrfekmRgmf%2FqZ5VfEhVQmy0gBATV%2FiMck%3D&reserved=0
>>  
>> 
>> 2.  Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by the 
>> ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new 
>> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user 
>> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21 
>> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations.
>>*   
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C6b6a4d5a20d84e25178708d926ac48ef%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583343689586933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Fk%2BDZHPKVn0ZAxJXozWtFaK2lT7zU67JzHjcxqwZ94s%3D&reserved=0
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> What does the community think about this situation and how to proceed? 
>> Should we graduate or retire?
>> 
>> When supporting graduation, please indicate willingness to drive the 
>> graduation process and subsequently participate in the project pmc.
>> 
>> Bikas