Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[ratatouille]

Hello!

This is great to hear!

  Andreas


Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 19.08.20 um 15:09:41 Uhr:

> The release process took a little bit more than 72 hours
> It is already in progress
> I believe release will be announced 2020. 08.21 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 15:07, Denis Noctor  wrote:
> 
> > ++1
> >
> > Go for it!
> >
> >
> > 
> >  Virus-free.
> > www.avg.com
> > 
> > <#m_-1395868716875144391_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM seba.wag...@gmail.com <  
> > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >  
> >> There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have the
> >> vote open for some time for community members to respond.
> >>
> >> There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Seb
> >>
> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille 
> >> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> When will it be released?
> >>>
> >>>   Andreas
> >>>
> >>> Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20
> >>> Uhr:
> >>>  
> >>> > Hello All,
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm ready to start release process
> >>> > Could someone check
> >>> > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
> >>> > Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >  
> >>> > > It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple  
> >>> bug. Not  
> >>> > > OpenMeetings code issue.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There  
> >>> is  
> >>> > > nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket  
> >>> or  
> >>> > > something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks
> >>> > > Seb
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner
> >>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> >>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >>> > >
> >>> > > <  
> >>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> >>>   
> >>> >  
> >>> > > <  
> >>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> >>>   
> >>> >  
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
> >>> > >  
> >>> > >> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> ..
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hello All,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> what is the current status?
> >>> > >> shall I start the release process?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat <  
> >>> kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>  
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hi Juan,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Have fun,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> kaffeesurrogat
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:  
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Hi all.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation  
> >>> that we  
> >>> > >> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> >>> > >> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg  
> >>> file).  
> >>> > >> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book  
> >>> 'Moby  
> >>> > >> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that  
> >>> they are  
> >>> > >> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the  
> >>> more  
> >>> > >> > useful the test will be.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> >>> > >> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and  
> >>> 19:00.  
> >>> > >> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2  
> >>> (CET).  
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > What do you think about?
> >>> > >> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour  
> >>> and a  
> >>> > >> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Regards.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:  
> >>> > >> >> How 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

The release process took a little bit more than 72 hours
It is already in progress
I believe release will be announced 2020. 08.21 

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 15:07, Denis Noctor  wrote:

> ++1
>
> Go for it!
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avg.com
> 
> <#m_-1395868716875144391_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have the
>> vote open for some time for community members to respond.
>>
>> There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>
>> Cheers
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> When will it be released?
>>>
>>>   Andreas
>>>
>>> Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20
>>> Uhr:
>>>
>>> > Hello All,
>>> >
>>> > I'm ready to start release process
>>> > Could someone check
>>> > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
>>> > Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple
>>> bug. Not
>>> > > OpenMeetings code issue.
>>> > >
>>> > > So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There
>>> is
>>> > > nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>>> > >
>>> > > So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket
>>> or
>>> > > something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks
>>> > > Seb
>>> > >
>>> > > Sebastian Wagner
>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>> > >
>>> > > <
>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>>> >
>>> > > <
>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ..
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hello All,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> what is the current status?
>>> > >> shall I start the release process?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat <
>>> kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hi Juan,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Have fun,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> kaffeesurrogat
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Hi all.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation
>>> that we
>>> > >> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>>> > >> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg
>>> file).
>>> > >> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book
>>> 'Moby
>>> > >> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that
>>> they are
>>> > >> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the
>>> more
>>> > >> > useful the test will be.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>>> > >> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and
>>> 19:00.
>>> > >> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2
>>> (CET).
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > What do you think about?
>>> > >> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour
>>> and a
>>> > >> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Regards.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>> > >> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating
>>> what
>>> > >> >> was in 4.x.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production
>>> ready
>>> > >> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> > >> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> > >> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Denis Noctor]

++1

Go for it!


Virus-free.
www.avg.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have the
> vote open for some time for community members to respond.
>
> There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> Cheers
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> When will it be released?
>>
>>   Andreas
>>
>> Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20
>> Uhr:
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I'm ready to start release process
>> > Could someone check
>> > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
>> > Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
>> >
>> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple
>> bug. Not
>> > > OpenMeetings code issue.
>> > >
>> > > So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There
>> is
>> > > nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>> > >
>> > > So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
>> > > something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Seb
>> > >
>> > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > >
>> > > <
>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>> >
>> > > <
>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>> > >>
>> > >> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ..
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hello All,
>> > >>
>> > >> what is the current status?
>> > >> shall I start the release process?
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat <
>> kaffeesurro...@posteo.de>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Juan,
>> > >>
>> > >> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>> > >>
>> > >> Have fun,
>> > >>
>> > >> kaffeesurrogat
>> > >>
>> > >> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hi all.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that
>> we
>> > >> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>> > >> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg
>> file).
>> > >> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book
>> 'Moby
>> > >> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they
>> are
>> > >> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the
>> more
>> > >> > useful the test will be.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>> > >> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and
>> 19:00.
>> > >> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2
>> (CET).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > What do you think about?
>> > >> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour
>> and a
>> > >> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Regards.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>> > >> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>> > >> >> was in 4.x.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production
>> ready
>> > >> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> > >> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> > >> >> production ?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can
>> run a
>> > >> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference
>> room ?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Thanks,
>> > >> >> Seb
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> > >> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > >> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > >> >> <
>> > >>
>> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

 Hi,

I vote for immediate release of OM 5.0.0 stable. The entire world  
needs this now, and we cannot wait for a few special cases to be  
resolved. Those special casis, squid proxies, how to's  behind various  
firewalls and different server setups - that's all post-release support.


Please release stable 5.0.0 now.

thanks,

ed

Quoting seba.wag...@gmail.com:

There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have  
the vote open for some time for community members to respond.   

   There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
   https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
    
   Cheers
   Seb

Sebastian Wagner
  Director Arrakeen Solutions
  http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

 [1][2]

 On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille  
 wrote:



Hi!

When will it be released?

  Andreas

Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20 Uhr:


Hello All,

I'm ready to start release process
Could someone check
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It seems well established that the Safari issue is a  
webkit/Apple bug. Not

> OpenMeetings code issue.
>
> So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
> nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>
> So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
> something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
>  

>  


>
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
> 
>> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>
>> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>
>>
>> ..
>>
>>
>>
>> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> what is the current status?
>> shall I start the release process?
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> kaffeesurrogat
>>
>> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote: 
>> >
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
>> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
>> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>> >
>> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
>> > useful the test will be.
>> >
>> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
>> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>> >
>> > What do you think about?
>> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: 
>> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>> >>
>> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>> >> was in 4.x.
>> >>
>> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>> >>
>> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> >> production ?
>> >>
>> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Seb
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> >> < 
>>  
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url 

>> >< 
>>  
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url 

>> > 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Please can someone explain?
>> >>     I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
>> >>     what does that mean to OM functionality?
>> >>     Best K.
>> >>
>> >>     Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
>> >>     > >>     >:
>> >>
>> >>         Hello Maxim,
>> >>
>> >>         at this moment two things are important for me:
>> >>         - calling a room 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have the
vote open for some time for community members to respond.

There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Cheers
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> When will it be released?
>
>   Andreas
>
> Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20
> Uhr:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm ready to start release process
> > Could someone check
> > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
> > Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug.
> Not
> > > OpenMeetings code issue.
> > >
> > > So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
> > > nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
> > >
> > > So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
> > > something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Seb
> > >
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >
> > > <
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> >
> > > <
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
> > >>
> > >> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > >>
> > >> Hello All,
> > >>
> > >> what is the current status?
> > >> shall I start the release process?
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Juan,
> > >>
> > >> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
> > >>
> > >> Have fun,
> > >>
> > >> kaffeesurrogat
> > >>
> > >> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi all.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that
> we
> > >> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> > >> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
> > >> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book
> 'Moby
> > >> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they
> are
> > >> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
> > >> > useful the test will be.
> > >> >
> > >> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> > >> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
> > >> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2
> (CET).
> > >> >
> > >> > What do you think about?
> > >> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and
> a
> > >> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards.
> > >> >
> > >> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
> > >> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
> > >> >> was in 4.x.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
> > >> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> > >> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
> > >> >> production ?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run
> a
> > >> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference
> room ?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Seb
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sebastian Wagner
> > >> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > >> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >> >> <
> > >>
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>
> > >> ><
> > >>
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Please can someone explain?
> > >> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones,
> but
> > >> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
> > >> >> Best K.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[ratatouille]

Hi!

When will it be released?

  Andreas

Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20 Uhr:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm ready to start release process
> Could someone check
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
> Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
> 
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> 
> > It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug. Not
> > OpenMeetings code issue.
> >
> > So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
> > nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
> >
> > So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
> > something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
> >
> > Thanks
> > Seb
> >
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
> >  
> >> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
> >>
> >> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
> >>
> >>
> >> ..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> what is the current status?
> >> shall I start the release process?
> >>
> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Juan,
> >>
> >> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
> >>
> >> Have fun,
> >>
> >> kaffeesurrogat
> >>
> >> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:  
> >> >
> >> > Hi all.
> >> >
> >> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> >> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> >> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
> >> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
> >> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> >> >
> >> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> >> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
> >> > useful the test will be.
> >> >
> >> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> >> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
> >> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
> >> >
> >> > What do you think about?
> >> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> >> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> >
> >> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:  
> >> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
> >> >> was in 4.x.
> >> >>
> >> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
> >> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> >> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
> >> >> production ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
> >> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Seb
> >> >>
> >> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> >> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >> >> <  
> >> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> >>   
> >> ><  
> >> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> >>   
> >> >  
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Please can someone explain?
> >> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
> >> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
> >> >> Best K.
> >> >>
> >> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
> >> >>  >> >> >:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello Maxim,
> >> >>
> >> >> at this moment two things are important for me:
> >> >> - calling a room directly with room-name
> >> >> - SIP-support
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> René
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:  
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
> >> >>>  >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Maxim,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cool, you are coming forward…
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This need to be 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

_Then  __use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"_



Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello Ed,

   On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 18:13,  wrote:


_Hello,

I know that you don't mean this type of thing, but just for what  
it's worth - a few English improvements (I'm a former English  
teacher!):_


_README contains the most valuable changes from  
CHANGELOG https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#release-notes---openmeetings---version-500_
_So the first thing to check is: what can be added to let users  
know they should update to this version :)_

 
_improvements in English are much appreciated :)_
_ _

_- Flash plugin (is no more required) in the browser --> "is no  
longer required ..."

- Libraries are updated (with latest versions) --> "to latest versions"
- Front camera (is being used by default) --> "is used by default"_


_Will apply these ASAP, Thanks!_
_ _


_and finally, 

- "Camera resolution is taken over immediately"  (I don't know what  
this means!)._


_This actually means if you will start setup dialog in the room  
and change camera or resolution these changes will be applied as  
soon as you will press the Save button_

_(previously browser restart was required ...)

Then  __use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"_



_ _

_Do you mean "Camera resolution is changed immediately" or "is set  
immediately" ? If you mean that when a logged-in user changes the  
camera resolution that the new resolution takes effect immediately,  
use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"


Thanks for the great work; I will be installing 5.0.0 as soon as  
its ready to test on buster as well as on ubuntu low latency  
kernel, which might help a few things.


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_


_Hello All, _   _ _
_I'm ready to start release process_
_Could someone  
check https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500_

_Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?_

   _On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22,  
seba.wag...@gmail.com  wrote:_


_It seems well established that the Safari issue is a  
webkit/Apple bug. Not OpenMeetings code issue. _   
 _ _
  _So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix  
anything. There is nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code._

  _ _
  _So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the  
webkit bug ticket or something, but we could release OpenMeetings  
5.0.0_

  _ _
  _Thanks_
  _Seb_

  
_Sebastian Wagner_

   _Director Arrakeen Solutions_
   _http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/_

  _[1][2]_

   _On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  
 wrote:_



_Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255._
_ _
_Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great._
_ _
_ _
_.._
_ _
_ _
_ _
_El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim  
Solodovnik escribió:_



_Hello All, _   _ _
  _what is the current status?_
  _shall I start the release process?_

   _On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10,  
kaffeesurrogat  wrote:_



_Hi Juan,

did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious

Have fun,

kaffeesurrogat

On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:


Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
useful the test will be.

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
low 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Ed,

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 18:13,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I know that you don't mean this type of thing, but just for what it's
> worth - a few English improvements (I'm a former English teacher!):
>
README contains the most valuable changes from CHANGELOG
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#release-notes---openmeetings---version-500
So the first thing to check is: what can be added to let users know they
should update to this version :)

improvements in English are much appreciated :)


> - Flash plugin (is no more required) in the browser --> "is no longer
> required ..."
> - Libraries are updated (with latest versions) --> "to latest versions"
> - Front camera (is being used by default) --> "is used by default"
>
Will apply these ASAP, Thanks!


>
> and finally,
>
> - "Camera resolution is taken over immediately"  (I don't know what this
> means!).
>
This actually means if you will start setup dialog in the room and change
camera or resolution these changes will be applied as soon as you will
press the Save button
(previously browser restart was required ...)


> Do you mean "Camera resolution is changed immediately" or "is set
> immediately" ? If you mean that when a logged-in user changes the camera
> resolution that the new resolution takes effect immediately, use -->
> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"
>
> Thanks for the great work; I will be installing 5.0.0 as soon as its ready
> to test on buster as well as on ubuntu low latency kernel, which might help
> a few things.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm ready to start release process
> Could someone check
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
> Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug.
>> Not OpenMeetings code issue.
>>
>> So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
>> nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>>
>> So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
>> something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>>
>> Thanks
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
>>
>>> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>>
>>> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>>
>>>
>>> ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> what is the current status?
>>> shall I start the release process?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Juan,
>>>
>>> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>>
>>> kaffeesurrogat
>>>
>>> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi all.
>>> >
>>> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>>> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>>> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
>>> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
>>> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>>> >
>>> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>>> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
>>> > useful the test will be.
>>> >
>>> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>>> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
>>> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>> >
>>> > What do you think about?
>>> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>>> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>>> >> was in 4.x.
>>> >>
>>> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>>> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> >> production ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>>> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Seb
>>> >>
>>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>> >> <
>>> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

 Hello,

I know that you don't mean this type of thing, but just for what it's  
worth - a few English improvements (I'm a former English teacher!):
- Flash plugin (is no more required) in the browser --> "is no longer  
required ..."

- Libraries are updated (with latest versions) --> "to latest versions"
- Front camera (is being used by default) --> "is used by default"

and finally, 

- "Camera resolution is taken over immediately"  (I don't know what  
this means!).
Do you mean "Camera resolution is changed immediately" or "is set  
immediately" ? If you mean that when a logged-in user changes the  
camera resolution that the new resolution takes effect immediately,  
use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"


Thanks for the great work; I will be installing 5.0.0 as soon as its  
ready to test on buster as well as on ubuntu low latency kernel, which  
might help a few things.


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,   
   I'm ready to start release process
   Could someone  
check https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500

   Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com  
 wrote:


It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple  
bug. Not OpenMeetings code issue.   
 So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything.  
There is nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.

  
 So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug  
ticket or something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0

  
 Thanks
 Seb

Sebastian Wagner
  Director Arrakeen Solutions
  http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

 [1][2]

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:


Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
    
   Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
    
    
   ..
    
    
    
   El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:


Hello All,   
 what is the current status?
 shall I start the release process?

 On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat  
 wrote:



Hi Juan,

did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious

Have fun,

kaffeesurrogat

On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:


Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
useful the test will be.

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/



On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

     Please can someone explain?
     I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
     what does that mean to OM functionality?
     Best K.

     Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
     mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

         Hello Maxim,

         at this moment two things are important for me:
         - calling a room directly with room-name
         - SIP-support

         Best regards,

         René


         Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


         On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
         mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

             Maxim,

              

             cool, you are coming forward…

              

              

         

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

Looks good

Cheers
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 18:34, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I'm ready to start release process
> Could someone check
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
> Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug.
>> Not OpenMeetings code issue.
>>
>> So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
>> nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>>
>> So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
>> something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>>
>> Thanks
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
>>
>>> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>>
>>> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>>
>>>
>>> ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> what is the current status?
>>> shall I start the release process?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Juan,
>>>
>>> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>>
>>> kaffeesurrogat
>>>
>>> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi all.
>>> >
>>> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>>> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>>> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
>>> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
>>> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>>> >
>>> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>>> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
>>> > useful the test will be.
>>> >
>>> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>>> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
>>> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>> >
>>> > What do you think about?
>>> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>>> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>>> >> was in 4.x.
>>> >>
>>> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>>> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> >> production ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>>> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Seb
>>> >>
>>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>> >> <
>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>>> ><
>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Please can someone explain?
>>> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
>>> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
>>> >> Best K.
>>> >>
>>> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
>>> >> >> >> >:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Maxim,
>>> >>
>>> >> at this moment two things are important for me:
>>> >> - calling a room directly with room-name
>>> >> - SIP-support
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> René
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
>>> >>> >> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maxim,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello All,

I'm ready to start release process
Could someone check
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug. Not
> OpenMeetings code issue.
>
> So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
> nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>
> So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
> something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
>
>> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>
>> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>
>>
>> ..
>>
>>
>>
>> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> what is the current status?
>> shall I start the release process?
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> kaffeesurrogat
>>
>> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
>> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
>> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>> >
>> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
>> > useful the test will be.
>> >
>> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
>> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>> >
>> > What do you think about?
>> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>> >>
>> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>> >> was in 4.x.
>> >>
>> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>> >>
>> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> >> production ?
>> >>
>> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Seb
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> >> <
>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>> ><
>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Please can someone explain?
>> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
>> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
>> >> Best K.
>> >>
>> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
>> >> > >> >:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Maxim,
>> >>
>> >> at this moment two things are important for me:
>> >> - calling a room directly with room-name
>> >> - SIP-support
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> René
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
>> >>> > >>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Maxim,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> cool, you are coming forward…
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Gerald
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
>> >>> ]
>> >>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>> >>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list
>> >>> > >>> >
>> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple bug. Not
OpenMeetings code issue.

So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.

So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0

Thanks
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:

> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>
> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>
>
> ..
>
>
>
> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> Hello All,
>
> what is the current status?
> shall I start the release process?
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Juan,
>
> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>
> Have fun,
>
> kaffeesurrogat
>
> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> >
> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
> > useful the test will be.
> >
> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
> >
> > What do you think about?
> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
> >>
> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
> >> was in 4.x.
> >>
> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
> >>
> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
> >> production ?
> >>
> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Seb
> >>
> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >> <
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> ><
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Please can someone explain?
> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
> >> Best K.
> >>
> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
> >>  >> >:
> >>
> >> Hello Maxim,
> >>
> >> at this moment two things are important for me:
> >> - calling a room directly with room-name
> >> - SIP-support
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> René
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
> >>>  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maxim,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> cool, you are coming forward…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gerald
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
> >>> ]
> >>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> >>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list
> >>>  >>> >
> >>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
> >>>
> >>> I would like to perform next release as soon as
> >>> current `master` will be even more stable
> >>>
> >>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Alvaro]

Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.

..


El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> Hello All,
> what is the current status?
> shall I start the release process?
> 
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat  > wrote:
> > Hi Juan,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have fun,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > kaffeesurrogat
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hi all.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation
> > that we
> > 
> > > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> > 
> > > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg
> > file).
> > 
> > > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book
> > 'Moby
> > 
> > > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that
> > they are
> > 
> > > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the
> > more
> > 
> > > useful the test will be.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open
> > the
> > 
> > > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and
> > 19:00.
> > 
> > > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2
> > (CET).
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > What do you think about?
> > 
> > > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour
> > and a
> > 
> > > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Regards.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
> > 
> > >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating
> > what
> > 
> > >> was in 4.x.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production
> > ready
> > 
> > >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> > 
> > >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
> > 
> > >> production ?
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can
> > run a
> > 
> > >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference
> > room ?
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Thanks,
> > 
> > >> Seb
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Sebastian Wagner
> > 
> > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > 
> > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > 
> > >> <
> > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > >
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea <
> > kamha...@googlemail.com
> > 
> > >> > wrote:
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Please can someone explain?
> > 
> > >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP
> > telephones, but
> > 
> > >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
> > 
> > >> Best K.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
> > 
> > >>  > 
> > >> >:
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Hello Maxim,
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> at this moment two things are important for me:
> > 
> > >> - calling a room directly with room-name
> > 
> > >> - SIP-support
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Best regards,
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> René
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
> > 
> > >>>  > 
> > >>> > wrote:
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Maxim,
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> cool, you are coming forward…
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say
> > 5.1.0 :)
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Gerald
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> *Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
> > 
> > >>> ]
> > 
> > >>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> > 
> > >>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list
> > 
> > >>>  > 
> > >>> >
> > 
> > >>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>>  
> > 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello All,

what is the current status?
shall I start the release process?

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
wrote:

> Hi Juan,
>
> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>
> Have fun,
>
> kaffeesurrogat
>
> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
> >
> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
> > useful the test will be.
> >
> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
> >
> > What do you think about?
> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
> >>
> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
> >> was in 4.x.
> >>
> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
> >>
> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
> >> production ?
> >>
> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Seb
> >>
> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> >> <
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> ><
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Please can someone explain?
> >> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
> >> what does that mean to OM functionality?
> >> Best K.
> >>
> >> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
> >>  >> >:
> >>
> >> Hello Maxim,
> >>
> >> at this moment two things are important for me:
> >> - calling a room directly with room-name
> >> - SIP-support
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> René
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
> >>>  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maxim,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> cool, you are coming forward…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gerald
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
> >>> ]
> >>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> >>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list
> >>>  >>> >
> >>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
> >>>
> >>> I would like to perform next release as soon as
> >>> current `master` will be even more stable
> >>>
> >>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I plan to include
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> to upcoming release as well
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> there is no ETA yet due to
> >>>
> >>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
> >>>
> >>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Maxim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Maxim
> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[kaffeesurrogat]

Hi Juan,

did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious

Have fun,

kaffeesurrogat

On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
> prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
> The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
> Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>
> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
> useful the test will be.
>
> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
> room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
> The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>
> What do you think about?
> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>
> Regards.
>
> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>
>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>> was in 4.x.
>>
>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>
>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> production ?
>>
>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea > > wrote:
>>
>> Please can someone explain?
>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
>> what does that mean to OM functionality?
>> Best K.
>>
>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
>> > >:
>>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>> - SIP-support
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>>
>>>
>>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
>>> ]
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list
>>> >> >
>>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>>
>>> I would like to perform next release as soon as
>>> current `master` will be even more stable
>>>
>>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I plan to include
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> to upcoming release as well
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> there is no ETA yet due to
>>>
>>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>>>
>>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona]

Ok.

commit 5b48b7c is installed and running.

Regards.

El 16/5/20 a las 7:44, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:



(from mobile, sorry for typos)

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 00:55 Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Maxim

Do you mean the last commit?


Yes, better to use latest build
Ithas some stability improvements

El 15/5/20 a las 17:12, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

I would recommend to the latest M5 (you can skip DB import/export)
It should be more stable

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 13:43, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Maxim.

Right now I have installed 5.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT commit 8b0c13e

Regards.

El 15/5/20 a las 5:03, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello Juan,

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings
installation that we could use to do those tests. But I
have to count on you. I have prepared a room with a pdf
document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf
document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book
'Moby Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms
that they are interested in attending this presentation.
The more we are, the more useful the test will be.

Are we going to test room stability only?
What version do you have installed?

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and
could open the room at the following times, (all GMT)
8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio file lasts
approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).


My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
16:00GMT is preferable for me,
most probably I can participate in "silent mode"

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about
an hour and a half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com
 escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100%
replicating what was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being
production ready if we have issues in scaling up to
100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on
that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are
ready for production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and
that can run a low risk scenario with 100+ users in a
presentation conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea
mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP
telephones, but what does that mean to OM
functionality?
Best K.

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

Hello Maxim,

at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support

Best regards,

René


Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

Maxim,

cool, you are coming forward…

SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?


This need to be discussed separately, but I
would say 5.1.0 :)

Gerald

*Von:*Maxim Solodovnik
[mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list
mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release

Hello All,

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Sebastian,

Try to login to demo-next and demo-apache
You will see the difference
This VM is just slow :(

(from mobile, sorry for typos)

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 12:38  wrote:

> @Maxim: When you say weak how weak is weak? :)
> Maybe we can turn off document uploading to save some performance.
> Or is it bandwidth that is limited?
>
> Cheers
> Seb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 15/05/2020, at 3:07 PM, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 02:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
>>
>> I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group
>> with 100+ people.
>>
>> @Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a document describing
>> how to update https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
>>  ?
>> Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching
>> somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
>> I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to
>> help.
>>
>
> this VM should update automatically
> might need to check it's current status
> manual update should be as easy as to run `sudo ./getnaext.sh` script in
> `/opt`
>
> BUT this is very "weak" VM
> I doubt it can handle 10 people
>
> I would propose to use demo-next as playing-ground
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
>> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>>> file is read in English.
>>>
>>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>>> the test will be.
>>>
>>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>>
>>> What do you think about?
>>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
>>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>>
>>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was
>>> in 4.x.
>>>
>>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if
>>> we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>>
>>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> production ?
>>>
>>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Seb
>>>
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please can someone explain?
 I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
 does that mean to OM functionality?
 Best K.

 Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
 rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> at this moment two things are important for me:
> - calling a room directly with room-name
> - SIP-support
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>
>> Maxim,
>>
>>
>>
>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>
>
> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>
>> I would like to perform next release as 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

(from mobile, sorry for typos)

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 00:55 Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> Do you mean the last commit?
>

Yes, better to use latest build
Ithas some stability improvements

El 15/5/20 a las 17:12, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> I would recommend to the latest M5 (you can skip DB import/export)
> It should be more stable
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 13:43, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim.
>>
>> Right now I have installed 5.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT commit 8b0c13e
>>
>> Regards.
>> El 15/5/20 a las 5:03, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> Hello Juan,
>>
>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
>> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>>> file is read in English.
>>>
>>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>>> the test will be.
>>>
>> Are we going to test room stability only?
>> What version do you have installed?
>>
>>
>>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>>
>>
>> My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
>> 16:00GMT is preferable for me,
>> most probably I can participate in "silent mode"
>>
>>> What do you think about?
>>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
>>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>>
>>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was
>>> in 4.x.
>>>
>>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if
>>> we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>>
>>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> production ?
>>>
>>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Seb
>>>
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please can someone explain?
 I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
 does that mean to OM functionality?
 Best K.

 Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
 rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> at this moment two things are important for me:
> - calling a room directly with room-name
> - SIP-support
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>
>> Maxim,
>>
>>
>>
>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>
>
> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>
>> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
>> be even more stable
>>
>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>>
>>
>>
>> I plan to include
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>>
>>
>>
>> to upcoming release as well
>>
>>
>>
>> there is no ETA yet due to
>>
>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>>
>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>>
>>
>>
>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>>
>>
>>
>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>>
>>
>>
>> --

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba . wagner]

@Maxim: When you say weak how weak is weak? :)
Maybe we can turn off document uploading to save some performance.
Or is it bandwidth that is limited?

Cheers
Seb

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15/05/2020, at 3:07 PM, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 02:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>> That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
>> 
>> I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group 
>> with 100+ people.
>> 
>> @Maxim Solodovnik  Is there a document describing how to update 
>> https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/ ?
>> Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching 
>> somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
>> I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to 
>> help.
> 
> this VM should update automatically
> might need to check it's current status
> manual update should be as easy as to run `sudo ./getnaext.sh` script in 
> `/opt` 
> 
> BUT this is very "weak" VM
> I doubt it can handle 10 people
> 
> I would propose to use demo-next as playing-ground
>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>> 
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we could 
>>> use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a room 
>>> with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document is 
>>> the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio file 
>>> is read in English.
>>> 
>>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are 
>>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful 
>>> the test will be.
>>> 
>>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room at 
>>> the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio file 
>>> lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>> 
>>> What do you think about?
>>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a half, 
>>> with users who can attend at that time.
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> 
>>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
 How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
 
 I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in 
 4.x.
 
 But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we 
 have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
 
 Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
 Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production 
 ?
 
 Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low 
 risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
 
 Thanks,
 Seb
 
 Sebastian Wagner
 Director Arrakeen Solutions
 http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
 
 
 
 On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:
> Please can someone explain?
> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what 
> does that mean to OM functionality?
> Best K.
> 
> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz 
> :
>> Hello Maxim,
>> 
>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>> - SIP-support
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> René
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
>>>  wrote:
 Maxim,
 
  
 
 cool, you are coming forward…
 
  
 
  
 
 SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
 
>>> 
>>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>>  
  
 
  
 
 Gerald
 
  
 
 Von: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
 An: Openmeetings user-list 
 Betreff: [DISCUSSION] next release
 
  
 
 Hello All,
 
  
 
 Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
 
 I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will 
 be even more stable
 
 And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
 
  
 
 I plan to include
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
 
  
 
 to upcoming release as well
 
  
 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona]

Hi Maxim

Do you mean the last commit?

El 15/5/20 a las 17:12, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

I would recommend to the latest M5 (you can skip DB import/export)
It should be more stable

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 13:43, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Maxim.

Right now I have installed 5.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT commit 8b0c13e

Regards.

El 15/5/20 a las 5:03, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello Juan,

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation
that we could use to do those tests. But I have to count on
you. I have prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound
file (an .ogg file). The pdf document is the third chapter of
Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio file is
read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that
they are interested in attending this presentation. The more
we are, the more useful the test will be.

Are we going to test room stability only?
What version do you have installed?

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could
open the room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00,
16:00 and 19:00. The audio file lasts approximately 35
minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).


My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
16:00GMT is preferable for me,
most probably I can participate in "silent mode"

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an
hour and a half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com
 escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100%
replicating what was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being
production ready if we have issues in scaling up to 100+
concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready
for production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that
can run a low risk scenario with 100+ users in a
presentation conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea
mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>>
wrote:

Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP
telephones, but what does that mean to OM functionality?
Best K.

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

Hello Maxim,

at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support

Best regards,

René


Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

Maxim,

cool, you are coming forward…

SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?


This need to be discussed separately, but I would
say 5.1.0 :)

Gerald

*Von:*Maxim Solodovnik
[mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list
mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release

Hello All,

Today I've noticed we already addressed 41
issue for M5

I would like to perform next release as soon as
current `master` will be even more stable

And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)

I plan to include

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217

to upcoming release as well

there is no ETA yet due to

   

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

I would recommend to the latest M5 (you can skip DB import/export)
It should be more stable

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 13:43, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
wrote:

> Hi Maxim.
>
> Right now I have installed 5.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT commit 8b0c13e
>
> Regards.
> El 15/5/20 a las 5:03, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> Hello Juan,
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>> file is read in English.
>>
>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>> the test will be.
>>
> Are we going to test room stability only?
> What version do you have installed?
>
>
>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>
>
> My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
> 16:00GMT is preferable for me,
> most probably I can participate in "silent mode"
>
>> What do you think about?
>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>
>> Regards.
>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>
>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
>> 4.x.
>>
>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
>> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>
>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> production ?
>>
>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please can someone explain?
>>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>>> Best K.
>>>
>>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>>
 Hello Maxim,

 at this moment two things are important for me:
 - calling a room directly with room-name
 - SIP-support

 Best regards,

 René


 Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


 On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
 g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> cool, you are coming forward…
>
>
>
>
>
> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>

 This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)


>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
> be even more stable
>
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>
>
>
> I plan to include
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>
>
>
> to upcoming release as well
>
>
>
> there is no ETA yet due to
>
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>
>
>
> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>
>
>
> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim



>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona]

Hi Maxim.

Right now I have installed 5.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT commit 8b0c13e

Regards.

El 15/5/20 a las 5:03, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello Juan,

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that
we could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg
file). The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's
book 'Moby Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they
are interested in attending this presentation. The more we are,
the more useful the test will be.

Are we going to test room stability only?
What version do you have installed?

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and
19:00. The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT
+ 2 (CET).


My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
16:00GMT is preferable for me,
most probably I can participate in "silent mode"

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour
and a half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com
 escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating
what was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production
ready if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can
run a low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation
conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea
mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones,
but what does that mean to OM functionality?
Best K.

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

Hello Maxim,

at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support

Best regards,

René


Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

Maxim,

cool, you are coming forward…

SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?


This need to be discussed separately, but I would say
5.1.0 :)

Gerald

*Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list
mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release

Hello All,

Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

I would like to perform next release as soon as
current `master` will be even more stable

And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)

I plan to include

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217

to upcoming release as well

there is no ETA yet due to

1) we still have reports regarding stability

2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release

please let me know if you see other blockers :)

SIP most probably will go to the next release

-- 


Best regards,
Maxim



-- 
Best regards,

Maxim





--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 03:05, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> For instance there might be a way to contact some of the users of the
> openmeetings-moodle plugin if they have a large enough audience. And happy
> to conduct some test session.
>
> I am mainly looking at the following scenario:
> 1 presenter x 100 viewers
>

I would test with less people first
Most probably the logs will be unreadable ...


> Issues we had in the past:
> 1) 50+ people entering the conference room at the exact same time. Some
> issues in race conditions. As well as performance on the UI when multiple
> new users get initialised.
>

this can be tested on single machine with multiple tabs first
I have script running predefined number of independent chromium browsers
:)))


> 2) Multiple videos streams starting at the same time on the Media Server
> 3) General stability over following few minutes and bandwidth usage
> 4) People dropping on and off during the meeting, potentially
> reconnecting. Making sure their stream + UI stays clean. For example no
> stale/ghost connections in the background created
> 5) Teacher changes stream, while having 100+ viewers. Everybody reconnects
> to the new stream
> 6) Clean stop once finishing, no stale/ghost connections left in room
> after conference is finished
>

These tests will require multiple users


>
> Those some of the points. No (1) was the biggest issue. (1) is a scaling
> and load issue. Similar to (4) + (5). And you can only encounter during
> those scenarios.
> Some of the others you -may- be able to already see in smaller setups with
> 10 people. Cause those are more logical issues. But others will depend on
> having a large audience actually in the room.
>
> I wonder theses days if you could spin up 100+ AWS containers with Ubuntu
> desktop doing the testing :) It would be actually potentially easier to
> simulate in an automated way using Android tablets. Cause those could be
> probably more easily automated using Mobile Device Testing Farms.
> But there would be obviously an infrastructure cost to this.
>
> Nevertheless, this has always been the make or break test when it comes
> for larger companies or universities in order to use it.
>
> Cheers
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 07:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
>>
>> I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group
>> with 100+ people.
>>
>> @Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a document describing
>> how to update https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
>>  ?
>> Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching
>> somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
>> I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to
>> help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
>> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>>> file is read in English.
>>>
>>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>>> the test will be.
>>>
>>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>>
>>> What do you think about?
>>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
>>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>>
>>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was
>>> in 4.x.
>>>
>>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if
>>> we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>>
>>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>>> production ?
>>>
>>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 02:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
>
> I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group
> with 100+ people.
>
> @Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a document describing
> how to update https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
>  ?
> Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching
> somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
> I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to
> help.
>

this VM should update automatically
might need to check it's current status
manual update should be as easy as to run `sudo ./getnaext.sh` script in
`/opt`

BUT this is very "weak" VM
I doubt it can handle 10 people

I would propose to use demo-next as playing-ground


>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>> file is read in English.
>>
>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>> the test will be.
>>
>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>
>> What do you think about?
>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>
>> Regards.
>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>
>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
>> 4.x.
>>
>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
>> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>
>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> production ?
>>
>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please can someone explain?
>>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>>> Best K.
>>>
>>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>>
 Hello Maxim,

 at this moment two things are important for me:
 - calling a room directly with room-name
 - SIP-support

 Best regards,

 René


 Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


 On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
 g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> cool, you are coming forward…
>
>
>
>
>
> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>

 This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)


>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
> be even more stable
>
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>
>
>
> I plan to include
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>
>
>
> to upcoming release as well
>
>
>
> there is no ETA yet due to
>
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>
>
>
> please let me 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Juan,

On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
> file is read in English.
>
> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
> the test will be.
>
Are we going to test room stability only?
What version do you have installed?


> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room at
> the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio file
> lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>

My vacation is over so I can't participate during day-time,
16:00GMT is preferable for me,
most probably I can participate in "silent mode"

> What do you think about?
> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>
> Regards.
> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>
> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>
> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
> 4.x.
>
> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>
> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production
> ?
>
> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:
>
>> Please can someone explain?
>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>> Best K.
>>
>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>>> - SIP-support
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
>>> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>>>
 Maxim,



 cool, you are coming forward…





 SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?

>>>
>>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>>
>>>




 Gerald



 *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
 *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
 *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release



 Hello All,



 Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

 I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
 be even more stable

 And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)



 I plan to include

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217



 to upcoming release as well



 there is no ETA yet due to

 1) we still have reports regarding stability

 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release



 please let me know if you see other blockers :)



 SIP most probably will go to the next release



 --

 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Alvaro,


On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 17:37, Alvaro  wrote:

> ...then, the next release will be 5.0.0-M5 or 5.0.0?
>

I really hope the next version will be "5.0.0"


>
> Thanks
>
>
> ...
>
>
> El mié, 13-05-2020 a las 22:46 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will be
> even more stable
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>
> I plan to include
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>
> to upcoming release as well
>
> there is no ETA yet due to
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>
> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>
> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona]

I study at the University in Madrid, Spain and in these months of 
confinement we are attending virtual classes. The university is using 
solutions from large companies like Microsoft Teams and I doubt that any 
university center will test with an audience of 100+ people with a 
solution that it hardly knows and for which it will not obtain 
commercial support. In addition there are important security and 
confidentiality issues.
I have never tested more than six people in a conference room with open 
cameras and microphone for those six users. I think we should try more 
discreet scenarios to start with. Perhaps with 30, 40 or 50 users in 
presentation rooms with a presenter and the rest of the users just 
listening. Or a conference room with at least 20 or 30 attendees. Under 
these conditions, it will be easier to see if there are bandwidth, 
stability or infrastructure problems.
I am running an instance of openmeetings on a VPS server with the 
following characteristics:


 * 8 cores Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v4 @ 2.20GHz
 * 30 GB RAM
 * 800 GB SSD Disk
 * 600 Mbit/s port

And I would like to know what such an installation is capable of. Just that.

I think there are enough users on this list to do those tests and move 
on for sure before trying to get some official test done on a larger scale.


Greetings.

PD: My offer for Saturday still stands.

El 14/5/20 a las 22:05, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
For instance there might be a way to contact some of the users of the 
openmeetings-moodle plugin if they have a large enough audience. And 
happy to conduct some test session.


I am mainly looking at the following scenario:
1 presenter x 100 viewers
Issues we had in the past:
1) 50+ people entering the conference room at the exact same time. 
Some issues in race conditions. As well as performance on the UI when 
multiple new users get initialised.

2) Multiple videos streams starting at the same time on the Media Server
3) General stability over following few minutes and bandwidth usage
4) People dropping on and off during the meeting, potentially 
reconnecting. Making sure their stream + UI stays clean. For example 
no stale/ghost connections in the background created
5) Teacher changes stream, while having 100+ viewers. Everybody 
reconnects to the new stream
6) Clean stop once finishing, no stale/ghost connections left in room 
after conference is finished


Those some of the points. No (1) was the biggest issue. (1) is a 
scaling and load issue. Similar to (4) + (5). And you can only 
encounter during those scenarios.
Some of the others you -may- be able to already see in smaller setups 
with 10 people. Cause those are more logical issues. But others will 
depend on having a large audience actually in the room.


I wonder theses days if you could spin up 100+ AWS containers with 
Ubuntu desktop doing the testing :) It would be actually potentially 
easier to simulate in an automated way using Android tablets. Cause 
those could be probably more easily automated using Mobile Device 
Testing Farms.

But there would be obviously an infrastructure cost to this.

Nevertheless, this has always been the make or break test when it 
comes for larger companies or universities in order to use it.


Cheers
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/



On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 07:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
 > wrote:


That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!

I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger
group with 100+ people.

@Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a
document describing how to update
https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
 ?
Maybe we can make that instance available and then start
approaching somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find
somebody willing to help.

Thanks,
Sebastian

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona
mailto:jam...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation
that we could use to do those tests. But I have to count on
you. I have prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound
file (an .ogg file). The pdf document is the third chapter of
Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio file is read
in 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

For instance there might be a way to contact some of the users of the
openmeetings-moodle plugin if they have a large enough audience. And happy
to conduct some test session.

I am mainly looking at the following scenario:
1 presenter x 100 viewers
Issues we had in the past:
1) 50+ people entering the conference room at the exact same time. Some
issues in race conditions. As well as performance on the UI when multiple
new users get initialised.
2) Multiple videos streams starting at the same time on the Media Server
3) General stability over following few minutes and bandwidth usage
4) People dropping on and off during the meeting, potentially reconnecting.
Making sure their stream + UI stays clean. For example no stale/ghost
connections in the background created
5) Teacher changes stream, while having 100+ viewers. Everybody reconnects
to the new stream
6) Clean stop once finishing, no stale/ghost connections left in room after
conference is finished

Those some of the points. No (1) was the biggest issue. (1) is a scaling
and load issue. Similar to (4) + (5). And you can only encounter during
those scenarios.
Some of the others you -may- be able to already see in smaller setups with
10 people. Cause those are more logical issues. But others will depend on
having a large audience actually in the room.

I wonder theses days if you could spin up 100+ AWS containers with Ubuntu
desktop doing the testing :) It would be actually potentially easier to
simulate in an automated way using Android tablets. Cause those could be
probably more easily automated using Mobile Device Testing Farms.
But there would be obviously an infrastructure cost to this.

Nevertheless, this has always been the make or break test when it comes for
larger companies or universities in order to use it.

Cheers
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 07:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
>
> I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group
> with 100+ people.
>
> @Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a document describing
> how to update https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
>  ?
> Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching
> somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
> I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to
> help.
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona <
> jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
>> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
>> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
>> file is read in English.
>>
>> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
>> the test will be.
>>
>> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room
>> at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio
>> file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>>
>> What do you think about?
>> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>>
>> Regards.
>> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>
>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
>> 4.x.
>>
>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
>> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>
>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> production ?
>>
>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please can someone explain?
>>> I understand that SIP has 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!

I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger group
with 100+ people.

@Maxim Solodovnik   Is there a document describing
how to update https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
 ?
Maybe we can make that instance available and then start approaching
somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find somebody willing to
help.

Thanks,
Sebastian

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona 
wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
> could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared a
> room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf document
> is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio
> file is read in English.
>
> I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
> interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more useful
> the test will be.
>
> I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room at
> the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The audio file
> lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>
> What do you think about?
> We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
> half, with users who can attend at that time.
>
> Regards.
> El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>
> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>
> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
> 4.x.
>
> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>
> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production
> ?
>
> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:
>
>> Please can someone explain?
>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>> Best K.
>>
>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>>> - SIP-support
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
>>> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>>>
 Maxim,



 cool, you are coming forward…





 SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?

>>>
>>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>>
>>>




 Gerald



 *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
 *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
 *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release



 Hello All,



 Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

 I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
 be even more stable

 And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)



 I plan to include

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217



 to upcoming release as well



 there is no ETA yet due to

 1) we still have reports regarding stability

 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release



 please let me know if you see other blockers :)



 SIP most probably will go to the next release



 --

 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona]

Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we 
could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have prepared 
a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file). The pdf 
document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and 
the audio file is read in English.


I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are 
interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more 
useful the test will be.


I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the room 
at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00. The 
audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).


What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a 
half, with users who can attend at that time.


Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was 
in 4.x.


But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if 
we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.


Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for 
production ?


Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a 
low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?


Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/



On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea > wrote:


Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
what does that mean to OM functionality?
Best K.

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

Hello Maxim,

at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support

Best regards,

René


Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

Maxim,

cool, you are coming forward…

SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?


This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)

Gerald

*Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list
mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release

Hello All,

Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

I would like to perform next release as soon as
current `master` will be even more stable

And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)

I plan to include

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217

to upcoming release as well

there is no ETA yet due to

1) we still have reports regarding stability

2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release

please let me know if you see other blockers :)

SIP most probably will go to the next release

-- 


Best regards,
Maxim



-- 
Best regards,

Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Alvaro]

...then, the next release will be 5.0.0-M5 or 5.0.0?
Thanks

...

El mié, 13-05-2020 a las 22:46 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> Hello All,
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
> be even more stable
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
> 
> I plan to include
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
> 
> to upcoming release as well
> 
> there is no ETA yet due to
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
> 
> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
> 
> SIP most probably will go to the next release
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

1 presenter and 49 viewers will generate 50x traffic
The actual bandwidth depends on video stream size, quality and "dynamic" (I
believe more or less static picture should consume less bandwidth, but I
haven't checked)

On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 13:35, Rohrbach, Gerald 
wrote:

> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> unfortunately we have only up to 10 users in one room.
>
> We are using only for internal communication and the server is in intranet
> only.
>
>
>
> We are using nearly the latest snapshot.
>
> I have tried a machine in DMZ with coturn but running on some issues,
> where in the moment not the
>
> time is to look in detail. In general it works, issues are from our
> internal network.
>
>
>
> We have a second physical machine with OM direct connected to internet,
> for some special cases with
>
> Externals.
>
>
>
> My technical question is, if we have 50 users connected from outside and
> just one presenter is sharing his video
>
> do we then need 50 times of the bandwidth or just one time?
>
> I would think that it is not 1 stream but 50.
>
>
>
> We have currently only 100Mbit/100Mbit link, but we need to keep an eye on
> the used bandwidth in the moment. So if the bandwidth needed for large
> meetings is high one of the solution is to use
>
> a machine from a provider.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* seba.wag...@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2020 06:36
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* Re: [DISCUSSION] next release
>
>
>
> Yeah that would be great if we have some users that can provide some
> testing feedback with larger audiences.
>
>
>
> We had some Universities in the past that could run some tests for us.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Seb
>
>
> Sebastian Wagner
>
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
>
> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 14:59, Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Sebastian,
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 06:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>
>
>
> Well I see no way to test heavy load at one machine
>
> Here are some number for KMS: https://testrtc.com/sessions-kurento-server/
>
>
>
> I had plans to re-implement external video functionality
>
> this might allow as to test room load with multiple streams
>
> but I believe this is not real-world scenario
>
>
>
> my laptop can handle ~20-30 simultaneous tabs, not 100 
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
> 4.x.
>
>
>
> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>
>
>
> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>
> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production
> ?
>
>
>
> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>
>
>
> Peter has published numbers for 4.x
>
> Maybe he can share numbers for 5.0 if it will be stable enough :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Seb
>
>
> Sebastian Wagner
>
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
>
> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:
>
> Please can someone explain?
>
> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
> does that mean to OM functionality?
>
> Best K.
>
>
>
> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> at this moment two things are important for me:
> - calling a room directly with room-name
> - SIP-support
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Maxim,
>
>
>
> cool, you are coming forward…
>
>
>
>
>
> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>
>
>
> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

Yeah that would be great if we have some users that can provide some
testing feedback with larger audiences.

We had some Universities in the past that could run some tests for us.

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 14:59, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> Hello Sebastian,
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 06:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>>
>
> Well I see no way to test heavy load at one machine
> Here are some number for KMS: https://testrtc.com/sessions-kurento-server/
>
> I had plans to re-implement external video functionality
> this might allow as to test room load with multiple streams
> but I believe this is not real-world scenario
>
> my laptop can handle ~20-30 simultaneous tabs, not 100 
>
>
>>
>> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
>> 4.x.
>>
>> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
>> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>>
>> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> production ?
>>
>> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
>> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>>
>
> Peter has published numbers for 4.x
> Maybe he can share numbers for 5.0 if it will be stable enough :)
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please can someone explain?
>>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>>> Best K.
>>>
>>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>>
 Hello Maxim,

 at this moment two things are important for me:
 - calling a room directly with room-name
 - SIP-support

 Best regards,

 René


 Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


 On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
 g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> cool, you are coming forward…
>
>
>
>
>
> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>

 This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)


>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
> be even more stable
>
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>
>
>
> I plan to include
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>
>
>
> to upcoming release as well
>
>
>
> there is no ETA yet due to
>
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>
>
>
> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>
>
>
> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim



>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Sebastian,

On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 06:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>

Well I see no way to test heavy load at one machine
Here are some number for KMS: https://testrtc.com/sessions-kurento-server/

I had plans to re-implement external video functionality
this might allow as to test room load with multiple streams
but I believe this is not real-world scenario

my laptop can handle ~20-30 simultaneous tabs, not 100 


>
> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
> 4.x.
>
> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
> have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>
> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production
> ?
>
> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
> risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>

Peter has published numbers for 4.x
Maybe he can share numbers for 5.0 if it will be stable enough :)


>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:
>
>> Please can someone explain?
>> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
>> does that mean to OM functionality?
>> Best K.
>>
>> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>>> - SIP-support
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald <
>>> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>>>
 Maxim,



 cool, you are coming forward…





 SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?

>>>
>>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>>
>>>




 Gerald



 *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
 *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
 *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release



 Hello All,



 Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

 I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will
 be even more stable

 And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)



 I plan to include

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217



 to upcoming release as well



 there is no ETA yet due to

 1) we still have reports regarding stability

 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release



 please let me know if you see other blockers :)



 SIP most probably will go to the next release



 --

 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello,

On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 03:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:

> Please can someone explain?
> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
> does that mean to OM functionality?
>

In OM 3.x-4.x there was VoIP bridge
Users were able to call do the room using real phone (of soft phone)


> Best K.
>
> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>> - SIP-support
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>>
>>
>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
>>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>>
>>> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will be
>>> even more stable
>>>
>>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I plan to include
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> to upcoming release as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> there is no ETA yet due to
>>>
>>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>>>
>>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[seba.wag...@gmail.com]

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what was in
4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready if we
have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a low
risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea  wrote:

> Please can someone explain?
> I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what
> does that mean to OM functionality?
> Best K.
>
> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:
>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> at this moment two things are important for me:
>> - calling a room directly with room-name
>> - SIP-support
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>>
>>
>> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
>>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>>
>>> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will be
>>> even more stable
>>>
>>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I plan to include
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> to upcoming release as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> there is no ETA yet due to
>>>
>>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>>>
>>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[K. Kamhamea]

Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but what does
that mean to OM functionality?
Best K.

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz <
rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> at this moment two things are important for me:
> - calling a room directly with room-name
> - SIP-support
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
>> Maxim,
>>
>>
>>
>> cool, you are coming forward…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>>
>
> This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
>> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
>> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>>
>> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will be
>> even more stable
>>
>> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>>
>>
>>
>> I plan to include
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>>
>>
>>
>> to upcoming release as well
>>
>>
>>
>> there is no ETA yet due to
>>
>> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>>
>> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>>
>>
>>
>> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>>
>>
>>
>> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[R. Scholz]

Hello Maxim,

at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support

Best regards,

René


Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:


Maxim,

cool, you are coming forward…

SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?


This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)

Gerald

*Von:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release

Hello All,

Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5

I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master`
will be even more stable

And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)

I plan to include

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217

to upcoming release as well

there is no ETA yet due to

1) we still have reports regarding stability

2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release

please let me know if you see other blockers :)

SIP most probably will go to the next release

-- 


Best regards,
Maxim



--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[Maxim Solodovnik]

On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald 
wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> cool, you are coming forward…
>
>
>
>
>
> SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
>

This need to be discussed separately, but I would say 5.1.0 :)


>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue for M5
>
> I would like to perform next release as soon as current `master` will be
> even more stable
>
> And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
>
>
>
> I plan to include
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
>
>
>
> to upcoming release as well
>
>
>
> there is no ETA yet due to
>
> 1) we still have reports regarding stability
>
> 2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
>
>
>
> please let me know if you see other blockers :)
>
>
>
> SIP most probably will go to the next release
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim