Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Jacob Danner]

Hi Nick,
I was wondering if this was going to get off the ground. I'm still game to
work on this and have been poking at bits on my github fork. As a prior
committer all the legalese has been completed once before. Do I or should I
do anything else for this incubating project?
-jacobd
On Oct 24, 2013 4:43 AM, "Nick Burch"  wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>
>> Me too, I can also serve as a mentor. Perhaps we should also inform attic
>> (and board?) when we get this started so that the actual move to attic can
>> be avoided.
>>
>
> I think the attic already knows?
>
> I've created an initial proposal, feedback welcome! I've also added the
> people who volunteered in this thread. Jerry and Serkan - there's a few
> bits you need to edit about yourselves on the wiki
>
> The proposal is available at:
>  
> https://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/XMLBeansProposal
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
Me too, I can also serve as a mentor. Perhaps we should also inform 
attic (and board?) when we get this started so that the actual move to 
attic can be avoided.


I think the attic already knows?

I've created an initial proposal, feedback welcome! I've also added the 
people who volunteered in this thread. Jerry and Serkan - there's a few 
bits you need to edit about yourselves on the wiki


The proposal is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/XMLBeansProposal

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Tammo van Lessen]

Me too, I can also serve as a mentor. Perhaps we should also inform attic
(and board?) when we get this started so that the actual move to attic can
be avoided.

Tammo


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Serkan Taş  wrote:

> Me too...
>
> Serkan.
>
> 23 Eki 2013 tarihinde 21:54 saatinde, jerry...@oracle.com şunları yazdı:
>
> > Yes I am still interested.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jerry
> >
> > On 10/23/2013 4:37 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> Is there still interest in rebooting the XMLBeans project?
> >>
> >> If so, I think we have enough existing Apache PMC members to mentor the
> rebooted project. I'm happy to start the ball rolling on the proposal if
> there's still the interest?
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> PS The steps would be that I'd setup the proposal on the incubator wiki,
> >>   people interested in helping with the rebooted project would sign up,
> >>   then we'd have a vote and then begin working on the code and the
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Serkan Taş]

Me too...

Serkan.

23 Eki 2013 tarihinde 21:54 saatinde, jerry...@oracle.com şunları yazdı:

> Yes I am still interested.
> 
> Thanks
> Jerry
> 
> On 10/23/2013 4:37 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Is there still interest in rebooting the XMLBeans project?
>> 
>> If so, I think we have enough existing Apache PMC members to mentor the 
>> rebooted project. I'm happy to start the ball rolling on the proposal if 
>> there's still the interest?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> PS The steps would be that I'd setup the proposal on the incubator wiki,
>>   people interested in helping with the rebooted project would sign up,
>>   then we'd have a vote and then begin working on the code and the
>>   community within the Apache Incubator
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[jerry . sy]

Yes I am still interested.

Thanks
Jerry

On 10/23/2013 4:37 AM, Nick Burch wrote:

Hi All

Is there still interest in rebooting the XMLBeans project?

If so, I think we have enough existing Apache PMC members to mentor 
the rebooted project. I'm happy to start the ball rolling on the 
proposal if there's still the interest?


Nick

PS The steps would be that I'd setup the proposal on the incubator wiki,
   people interested in helping with the rebooted project would sign up,
   then we'd have a vote and then begin working on the code and the
   community within the Apache Incubator

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

Is there still interest in rebooting the XMLBeans project?

If so, I think we have enough existing Apache PMC members to mentor the 
rebooted project. I'm happy to start the ball rolling on the proposal if 
there's still the interest?


Nick

PS The steps would be that I'd setup the proposal on the incubator wiki,
   people interested in helping with the rebooted project would sign up,
   then we'd have a vote and then begin working on the code and the
   community within the Apache Incubator

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Maarten Bosteels]

Hi,

I am also willing to join the PMC or otherwise help to get XMLBeans out of
the attic.

Maarten Bosteels  (member of the Apache Mina PMC)



On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Nick Burch  wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Daniel Lübke wrote:
>
>> I have talked to the Apache ODE PMC Chair Tammo van Lessen how we can get
>> things running again, i.e. which Apache rules are there etc. I will keep
>> you updated.
>>
>
> As I understand it, the responsibility for the project has been moved to
> the Apache Attic PMC, but no-one from there has yet had the time to action
> the move. So, I think you probably want to get in touch with the Attic
> PMC[1], let them know there's a move to reboot the pmc, and ask them for
> their advice on how to do that
>
> Nick
> [1] 
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Daniel Lübke wrote:
I have talked to the Apache ODE PMC Chair Tammo van Lessen how we can 
get things running again, i.e. which Apache rules are there etc. I will 
keep you updated.


As I understand it, the responsibility for the project has been moved to 
the Apache Attic PMC, but no-one from there has yet had the time to action 
the move. So, I think you probably want to get in touch with the Attic 
PMC[1], let them know there's a move to reboot the pmc, and ask them for 
their advice on how to do that


Nick
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/attic-general/

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Daniel Lübke]

Hi,

sorry for not replying immediately. We have now 7 persons who would be 
willing to join a new PMC:


Jacob Danner (already committer)
Jerry Sy
Pascal Heus
Jack Gager
Harring Figueiredo
Serkan Tas
Daniel Lübke (me)

I have talked to the Apache ODE PMC Chair Tammo van Lessen how we can 
get things running again, i.e. which Apache rules are there etc. I will 
keep you updated.


Are there any other committers (except for Jacob) who would continue to 
contribute to this project?


Regards,
Daniel

Am 23.07.2013 17:29, schrieb Daniel Lübke:

Hi list,

I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the 
BPELUnit project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in 
contrast to JAXB if preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read 
and write XML document that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL, 
BPMN2, ...).


Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would 
contribute to it, which includes learning more of its internals, apply 
the outstanding patches, test them and so on.


As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a 
working PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5 
would be better) which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC 
if 3 other would be willing to join me and at least build regular 
maintainance releases to keep this project alive and reboot its PMC.


I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel, 
Apache CXX Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I 
hope that we can find enough interested people to keep this project 
alive.


If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough 
people, I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.


Regards,
Daniel

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[s t]

> We are using the library for 3 years, after castor. 
> 
> I may participate.
> 
> 24 Tem 2013 tarihinde 22:50 saatinde, jerry...@oracle.com şunları yazdı:
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> Please count me in.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jerry
>> 
>> On 7/23/2013 8:29 AM, Daniel Lübke wrote:
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the BPELUnit 
>>> project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in contrast to JAXB if 
>>> preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read and write XML document 
>>> that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL, BPMN2, ...).
>>> 
>>> Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would contribute 
>>> to it, which includes learning more of its internals, apply the outstanding 
>>> patches, test them and so on.
>>> 
>>> As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a working 
>>> PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5 would be better) 
>>> which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC if 3 other would be 
>>> willing to join me and at least build regular maintainance releases to keep 
>>> this project alive and reboot its PMC.
>>> 
>>> I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel, Apache CXX 
>>> Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I hope that we can 
>>> find enough interested people to keep this project alive.
>>> 
>>> If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough people, 
>>> I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Daniel
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Harring Figueiredo]

Add myself as well, please.

Thank you,

Harring Figueiredo


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Pascal Heus  wrote:

> Daniel:
> You can add myself and my colleague Jack Gager
> (j.ga...@metadatatechnology.com) to the list.
> best
> *P
>
> On 7/24/13 9:50 PM, jerry...@oracle.com wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > Please count me in.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jerry
> >
> > On 7/23/2013 8:29 AM, Daniel Lübke wrote:
> >> Hi list,
> >>
> >> I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the
> >> BPELUnit project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in
> >> contrast to JAXB if preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read
> >> and write XML document that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL,
> >> BPMN2, ...).
> >>
> >> Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would
> >> contribute to it, which includes learning more of its internals,
> >> apply the outstanding patches, test them and so on.
> >>
> >> As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a
> >> working PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5
> >> would be better) which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC
> >> if 3 other would be willing to join me and at least build regular
> >> maintainance releases to keep this project alive and reboot its PMC.
> >>
> >> I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel,
> >> Apache CXX Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I
> >> hope that we can find enough interested people to keep this project
> >> alive.
> >>
> >> If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough
> >> people, I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Daniel
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Pascal Heus]

Daniel:
You can add myself and my colleague Jack Gager
(j.ga...@metadatatechnology.com) to the list.
best
*P

On 7/24/13 9:50 PM, jerry...@oracle.com wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Please count me in.
>
> Thanks
> Jerry
>
> On 7/23/2013 8:29 AM, Daniel Lübke wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the
>> BPELUnit project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in
>> contrast to JAXB if preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read
>> and write XML document that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL,
>> BPMN2, ...).
>>
>> Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would
>> contribute to it, which includes learning more of its internals,
>> apply the outstanding patches, test them and so on.
>>
>> As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a
>> working PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5
>> would be better) which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC
>> if 3 other would be willing to join me and at least build regular
>> maintainance releases to keep this project alive and reboot its PMC.
>>
>> I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel,
>> Apache CXX Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I
>> hope that we can find enough interested people to keep this project
>> alive.
>>
>> If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough
>> people, I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Daniel
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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[jerry . sy]

Hi Daniel,

Please count me in.

Thanks
Jerry

On 7/23/2013 8:29 AM, Daniel Lübke wrote:

Hi list,

I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the 
BPELUnit project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in 
contrast to JAXB if preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read 
and write XML document that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL, 
BPMN2, ...).


Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would 
contribute to it, which includes learning more of its internals, apply 
the outstanding patches, test them and so on.


As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a 
working PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5 
would be better) which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC 
if 3 other would be willing to join me and at least build regular 
maintainance releases to keep this project alive and reboot its PMC.


I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel, 
Apache CXX Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I 
hope that we can find enough interested people to keep this project 
alive.


If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough 
people, I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.


Regards,
Daniel

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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Pascal Heus wrote:

We're using XmlBeans quite a bit and are interested to keep this alive
as well. Would be great to have more information around the Apache
rules/processes, PMC, roles/responsibilities, etc. to understand how we
could support the project.


The Apache Community Development project has quite a bit of information on 
that: http://community.apache.org/


If you look online, you'll find quite a few "The Apache Way" talks as 
slides or videos, which will explain a lot of that, if you prefer to learn 
from talks


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Re: Getting XMLBeans out of Attic

[Pascal Heus]

Daniel and all:
We're using XmlBeans quite a bit and are interested to keep this alive
as well. Would be great to have more information around the Apache
rules/processes, PMC, roles/responsibilities, etc. to understand how we
could support the project.
best
*P

On 7/23/13 5:29 PM, Daniel Lübke wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I am a long-time user of XMLBeans, most of the time as part of the
> BPELUnit project. There is no replacement to XMLBeans because in
> contrast to JAXB if preserves namespace declarations so you e.g. read
> and write XML document that contain XPath expressions (e.g. BPEL,
> BPMN2, ...).
>
> Although I know XMLBeans only from the user perspective, I would
> contribute to it, which includes learning more of its internals, apply
> the outstanding patches, test them and so on.
>
> As far as I understand the Apache rules a project needs to have a
> working PMC. This means at least 3 people (for substitution 4 or 5
> would be better) which vote on releases. I also would join a new PMC
> if 3 other would be willing to join me and at least build regular
> maintainance releases to keep this project alive and reboot its PMC.
>
> I know that many other projects use XMLBeans, e.g. Apache Camel,
> Apache CXX Apache ODE, ... and many non-Apache projects, too. So I
> hope that we can find enough interested people to keep this project
> alive.
>
> If you are one of them, please reply to this list. If we are enough
> people, I would try to talk to the Apache Foundation.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
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