Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread Stephen R. van den Berg
a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote: I see what you mean... Probably the best way is to declare just trash folder, allow creating children there, and it and its children all autoexpire. Yes, but there needs to be the ability to have multiple trash folders (at the top level). Because I've seen mail

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread arnt
If the are several, then each client shows a different subset of trash, which sounds like trouble waiting to happen. I wonder how many clients use 6154 support to detect the trash mailbox... that is more or less mandatory in order to work with gmail, so the number might be high. Arnt

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread Stephen R. van den Berg
a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote: If the are several, then each client shows a different subset of trash, which sounds like trouble waiting to happen. Trouble as in: messages left in Trash indefinitely. -- Stephen.

Re: [HEADS UP] Thunderbird 38.1: Authentication failed

2015-07-21 Thread Axel Rau
Am 21.07.2015 um 10:57 schrieb Axel Rau axel@chaos1.de: Hi all, Users can’t authenticate to archiveopteryx after upgrade to thunderbird 38.1. This happens on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Seems to be a TLS problem. I could authenticate with cram-md5 *without* TLS on a Mac. Needing more

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, I've changed my mind about the retention policies. They very flexible and powerful and so on, but aren't really useful/usable. May also not work, but that's a philosophical point (if correct isn't usable, what worth is correct?). Instead I want to do the gmail thing instead, which for aox

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread Stephen R. van den Berg
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: - a magic new mailbox for each user, which contains everything except trash - a magic new trash mailbox for each user - deleting moves mail to the trash mailbox - moving mail to the trash mailbox is just like expunging it - expunge in the trash mailbox clears it out - aox

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Stephen R. van den Berg writes: Meaning that all mailboxes can be tagged as being part of the Trash group? That's a question of implementation, which is simple either way, but... What do you want to achieve? Arnt

Re: [RESOLVED][HEADS UP] Thunderbird 38.1: Authentication failed

2015-07-21 Thread Axel Rau
Am 21.07.2015 um 11:53 schrieb Axel Rau axel@chaos1.de: Needing more investigation. . . s_client returned: Verify return code: 34 (unhandled critical extension) Which was misleading. The real problem was a server cert, of which end of life has passed. Sorry, Axel --- PGP-Key:29E99DD6

Re: Autoexpunge spam and trash folders

2015-07-21 Thread arnt
I see what you mean... Probably the best way is to declare just trash folder, allow creating children there, and it and its children all autoexpire. Arnt