[ClusterLabs] Antw: Re: Antw: Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Ken Gaillot schrieb am 17.01.2018 um 17:04 in >>> Nachricht <1516205099.5103.3.ca...@redhat.com>: > On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 08:32 +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote: >> > > > Ken Gaillot schrieb am 16.01.2018 um >> > > > 23:33 in Nachricht >> >> <1516142036.5604.3.ca...@redhat.com>: >> > As we look

Re: [ClusterLabs] Opinions wanted: another logfile question for Pacemaker 2.0

2018-01-17 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 15.01.2018 17:51, Ken Gaillot wrote: > Currently, Pacemaker will use the same detail log as corosync if one is > specified (as "logfile:" in the "logging {...}" section of > corosync.conf). So far I've never dealt with the logging config of Pacemaker but isn't it possible to configure the log-f

Re: [ClusterLabs] Corosync quorum vs. pacemaker quorum confusion

2018-01-17 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 07:33 +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > 07.12.2017 00:28, Klaus Wenninger пишет: > > On 12/06/2017 08:03 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote: > > > On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 14:03 +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > > > > I assumed that with corosync 2.x quorum is maintained by > > > > corosync and

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 19:59 +0100, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > Ken Gaillot writes: > > > > > I can see the point, but I do like having separate. > > > > A clone with a single instance is not identical to a primitive. > > Think > > of building a cluster, starting with one node, and configuring

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Ken Gaillot writes: > > I can see the point, but I do like having separate. > > A clone with a single instance is not identical to a primitive. Think > of building a cluster, starting with one node, and configuring a clone > -- it has only one instance, but you wouldn't expect it to show up as a

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 11:19 +0100, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > Ken Gaillot writes: > > > > > For Pacemaker 2, I'd like to replace the resource type > > with > > . (The old syntax would be transparently > > upgraded to the new one.) The role names themselves are not likely > > to > > be changed

Re: [ClusterLabs] Proper procedure for pacemaker RPM upgrades in active cluster

2018-01-17 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 11:20 -0500, Doug Cahill wrote: > Thank you Ken for the feedback on this.  That doc was exactly what I > was looking for but missed it in my searches.  I did some testing > with > using "crm configure property maintenance-mode=true" and my upgrade > from 1.1.17 to 1.1.18 worke

Re: [ClusterLabs] Proper procedure for pacemaker RPM upgrades in active cluster

2018-01-17 Thread Doug Cahill
Thank you Ken for the feedback on this. That doc was exactly what I was looking for but missed it in my searches. I did some testing with using "crm configure property maintenance-mode=true" and my upgrade from 1.1.17 to 1.1.18 worked in my test environment. Good info on the 1.1.18 regression fi

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 08:32 +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote: > > > > Ken Gaillot schrieb am 16.01.2018 um > > > > 23:33 in Nachricht > > <1516142036.5604.3.ca...@redhat.com>: > > As we look to release Pacemaker 2.0 and (separately) update the OCF > > standard, this is a good time to revisit the termino

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Ken Gaillot writes: > > For Pacemaker 2, I'd like to replace the resource type with > . (The old syntax would be transparently > upgraded to the new one.) The role names themselves are not likely to > be changed in that time frame, as they are used in more external pieces > such as notification

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Adam Spiers
Ulrich Windl wrote: Ken Gaillot schrieb am 16.01.2018 um 23:33 in Nachricht <1516142036.5604.3.ca...@redhat.com>: As we look to release Pacemaker 2.0 and (separately) update the OCF standard, this is a good time to revisit the terminology and syntax we use for master/slave resources. I think

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
FWIW, bellow my opinion about this On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:33:56 -0600 Ken Gaillot wrote: [...] > I think the term "stateful resource" is a better substitute for > "master/slave resource". That would mainly be a documentation change. +1 > A bigger question is what to call the two roles. "Master"

Re: [ClusterLabs] Feedback wanted: changing "master/slave" terminology

2018-01-17 Thread Adam Spiers
Digimer wrote: On 2018-01-16 05:33 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote: As we look to release Pacemaker 2.0 and (separately) update the OCF standard, this is a good time to revisit the terminology and syntax we use for master/slave resources. I think the term "stateful resource" is a better substitute for "