Re: lsdvd won't work on DF 1.8

2007-02-18 Thread YONETANI Tomokazu
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 12:23:03PM +0900, Kimura Fuyuki wrote: OK, I give up... Could someone tell me why the following simple program fails to print a dvd title? It seems to read from offset 32768. (block boundary?) ... Having posted the last message, I was wondering if FreeBSD has ever

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Rupert Pigott
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: Sort of. I'm saying that if Matt rolls his own filesystem instead of using ZFS, that new filesystem is either: 1: not going to have the variety of tools available with zfs for handling things like disk pooling/snapshots/data

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Michael Neumann
Rupert Pigott wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: Sort of. I'm saying that if Matt rolls his own filesystem instead of using ZFS, that new filesystem is either: 1: not going to have the variety of tools available with zfs for handling things like disk

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Rupert Pigott wrote: I don't know if IBM's GridFS does any better with the latency, but it certainly scales a lot better but the barrier for adoption is $$$. It costs $$$ and it costs a lot more $$$ to train up and hire the SAs to run it. There are other options like AFS too, but people tend to

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Michel Talon
Rupert Pigott wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: True, but Matt has explained that ZFS doesn't provide the functionality that DragonFlyBSD needs for cluster computing. ZFS solves the problem of building a bigger fileserver, but it doesn't help you

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread B. Estrade
On 2/18/07, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: True, but Matt has explained that ZFS doesn't provide the functionality that DragonFlyBSD needs for cluster computing. ZFS solves the problem of building a

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread B. Estrade
On 2/18/07, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: True, but Matt has explained that ZFS doesn't provide the functionality that DragonFlyBSD needs for cluster computing. ZFS solves the problem of building a

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:25:57 +0100 Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it is none of my business, but i have always wandered about the real usefulness of a clustering OS in the context of free systems, snip Small installations are the natural target of free systems, and in this

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: I don't know if IBM's GridFS does any better with the latency, but it certainly scales a lot better but the barrier for adoption is $$$. It costs $$$ and it costs a lot more $$$ to train up and hire the SAs to run it. There are other options

Re: lsdvd won't work on DF 1.8

2007-02-18 Thread Kimura Fuyuki
On Sunday 18 February 2007, YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 12:23:03PM +0900, Kimura Fuyuki wrote: OK, I give up... Could someone tell me why the following simple program fails to print a dvd title? It seems to read from offset 32768. (block boundary?) ... Having

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Rupert Pigott
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:23:38 +0100, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: I don't know if IBM's GridFS does any better with the latency, but it certainly scales a lot better but the barrier for adoption is $$$. It costs $$$ and it costs a lot more $$$ to train up and hire the

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Rupert Pigott
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:25:57 +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:39:30 -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: True, but Matt has explained that ZFS doesn't provide the functionality that DragonFlyBSD needs for cluster computing. ZFS solves the problem of

Re: lsdvd won't work on DF 1.8

2007-02-18 Thread Kimura Fuyuki
On Monday 19 February 2007, Kimura Fuyuki wrote: On Sunday 18 February 2007, YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 12:23:03PM +0900, Kimura Fuyuki wrote: OK, I give up... Could someone tell me why the following simple program fails to print a dvd title? It seems to read

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread talon
Bill Hacker wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Rupert Pigott wrote: But a brief scan of those that were 'free' brings up the question: 'Just who is it that actually NEEDS this anyway?' Bill Hacker Well Rupert Pigott gave some pretty convincing explanations of the usefulness of