Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread B. Estrade
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 06:57:13AM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: > ... > Still, the code is so short and simple all of this could be fixed in > less time than it took to write this email. But it's something you'll > have to get used to doing yourself, because you will soon love Python > and be unabl

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On 3/6/07, Adrian Michael Nida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just curious what's not beautiful about it? I appreciate the criticism, but it would be more beneficial for me to hear what it needs to look like, rather than hearing it's ugly :-) Feel free to reply to me directly, if you wish. It's t

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On 3/6/07, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yah, it's pretty silly. People have been logging IRC sessions and putting them up on the web for over a decade. Nobody should have any expectation of privacy on IRC. Some organizations in many nations have been logging everythin

RE: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
> Now, I'm happy to add whatever changes need to be done. When a consensus is > reached, I'll do it. I think the last irc log had last 1000 lines or something like that. Maybe just keep a short time period like last 12 hours or last 1000 lines.

RE: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Adrian Michael Nida
Wow, this is getting wild o_O. I never thought a simple bot would cause such chatter. I created this bot the way it is (recording everything for historical purposes) because: 1) I thought that historical archives were what people wanted. 2) It was the easiest way I knew how to accomplish assum

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Kevin L. Kane
Here it is as it has some stuff from before the bot started recording, it goes back to Dec 20, 2006: On second thought I think it was irresponsible to post this without asking permission as it logs things that happened back before the issue of logging was raised(?), and to be courteous to those

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Kevin L. Kane
Yah, it's pretty silly. People have been logging IRC sessions and putting them up on the web for over a decade. Nobody should have any expectation of privacy on IRC. I thought even the default(?) install of irssi logs all the channels you join so I just checked and my machine has b

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Matthew Dillon
:When I read the original message I thought it was a joke. Now that we're :getting serious, could we please stop? The idea of obscuring an IRC log :is preposterous. IRC isn't authenticated, and the log is only going to :show nicknames. What the point of obscurity? My vote is just leave it :as

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:50:23AM +, B. Estrade wrote: > > To be honest, I was halfway serious. I generally don't hide my > identity when on irc because I don't go on to just 'hang out', but I > do like to monitor the #dragonflybsd channel. You know that most IRC users also log the channels

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread B. Estrade
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:27:55AM -0500, Peter Avalos wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:16:04AM -0500, Adrian Michael Nida wrote: > > > > : I'm guessing you're serious, so I'll mention why this is a risky idea. > > : IRC has chewing-gum authentication and it's almost trivial for a > > : malicio

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Peter Avalos
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:16:04AM -0500, Adrian Michael Nida wrote: > > : I'm guessing you're serious, so I'll mention why this is a risky idea. > : IRC has chewing-gum authentication and it's almost trivial for a > : malicious bot to fool a server into ignoring people by pretending to > : be the

RE: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, March 5, 2007 8:16 am, Adrian Michael Nida wrote: > > : I'm guessing you're serious, so I'll mention why this is a risky idea. > : IRC has chewing-gum authentication and it's almost trivial for a > : malicious bot to fool a server into ignoring people by pretending to > : be them, and this

RE: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Adrian Michael Nida
: I recommend using Twisted Python as a framework, which gives you an : IRC protocol client out of the box, good efficiency, and very neat : daemon behavior (using twistd, for instance). I will take your suggestion about Twisted and look into a rewrite. Thanks for pointing it out. : It's not b

RE: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-05 Thread Adrian Michael Nida
: I'm guessing you're serious, so I'll mention why this is a risky idea. : IRC has chewing-gum authentication and it's almost trivial for a : malicious bot to fool a server into ignoring people by pretending to : be them, and this can be done in many points*. Basically, the entire : utility of the