Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: In fact, I propose a new rule of thumb: For any proposed feature where: 1: Matt doesn't object, and 2: No existing functionality is lost it should go in. I don't agree. Matt of course has a veto, but the community itself should also agree that this is a feature

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Grzegorz Błach
Dnia 17-03-2007, So o godzinie 00:05 +0100, Simon 'corecode' Schubert napisał(a): [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c) add support for openwall tcb - the alternative to shadow (with pam module) which is more secure than pam_unix and pam_pwdb, because tools like 'passwd' or 'chage' don't neet SUID,

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Grzegorz Błach
Dnia 16-03-2007, Pt o godzinie 18:58 -0700, Matthew Dillon napisał(a): Well, hmm. Kinda out of the blue, and I don't want to discourage anyone who is this enthusiastic, but I have a few buts of my own. 1. a) chg default password_format do blowfish since there are known algoritm

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Grzegorz Błach wrote: Brute-force algoritm with collision can take password 100 time faster than brute-force without brute-force. How do you prove this claim? AFAIK collision attacks need to know the plain text. Trying to brute-force a password means not having it in plain text. Hence

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Michel Talon
Matthew Dillon wrote: I personally believe that postfix is superior. I personally do not mind running GPL'd code. But I also would prefer to have as little GPL'd code in our managed code base as possible. What does this mean? I would dearly like to integrate portions

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:26:21PM +0100, Grzegorz B?ach wrote: Brute-force algoritm with collision can take password 100 time faster than brute-force without brute-force. Again, password hashes are *not* simple MD5 hashes. They are not even simple salted MD5 hashes. That doesn't mean that a

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:30:11 +0100 Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already the move to NetBSD pkgsrc has cost DFLY division by 3 of the number of available ports with respect to FreeBSD for an advantage that i have hard time to even discern. The advantage is simple to see, as

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 03:30:11PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Another excellent statement! Maintaining a decent ports system is a task for hundred people. FreeBSD has aroud 200 people doing that, Debian, around 1000. To be fair, Debian *needs* the thousand people because the approach to

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 06:58:58PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: What does this mean? I would dearly like to integrate portions of pkgsrc managed packages into our buildworld and installworld system, that is have the buildworld create a little package building jail and build

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Michel Talon
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: One has to be totally unaware of realities to suggest tools from obscure Linux distributions, wether they are good or bad, when such distribution may collapse at any moment. Already the move to NetBSD pkgsrc has cost DFLY division by 3 of the number of available

Re: New mirror

2007-03-17 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
On 17.03.2007, at 19:09, Matthew Dillon wrote: :ftp://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/DragonFly :http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/DragonFly :rsync://ftp.estpak.ee/DragonFly ^^ I know its a silly question, but what country should I list in our mirrors section for your mirror? I'd say

what dc++ client?

2007-03-17 Thread Vladimir Mitiouchev
Hi! Im looking for *working* dc++ client for DragonFly. dc_gui2 is NOT working properly. Any ideas? -- Sincerely Yours, Vladimir Mitiouchev

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-17 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
What FreeBSD and NetBSD lack is a good system for management of binary packages. Marc has very well understood that, and has made every effort so that updates work smoothly. To my knowledge OpenBSD is the only BSD which has a working update mechanism, fully integrated. I completely