Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Vincent Stemen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the DragonFly BSD source repository.

Re: wiki unbroken

2008-01-30 Thread Sdävtaker
When i do a full text search, i got this: -- -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/www/wiki/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py, line 1283, in run handler(self.page.page_name, self) File

rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Hello Vincent, Vincent Stemen wrote: The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about cvsup being faster than rsync are based on

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, January 30, 2008 1:38 am, Vincent Stemen wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the DragonFly BSD

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: The only minor thing I'd bring up is that I recall one reason for cvsup is that rsync placed a relatively higher load per client on the server. That needs to be established. We already heard that cvsup - contrary to claims - is not competitive with rsync, on the

Re: wiki unbroken

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, January 30, 2008 5:35 am, Sdävtaker wrote: When i do a full text search, i got this: -- -- Traceback (most recent call last): File I'll work on this, along with the language issues Hasso reported - I didn't get a chance last night.

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Hello Vincent, Vincent Stemen wrote: The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about cvsup

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Bill Hacker wrote: To state it clearly for everybody: = Use rsync to sync your repos! It is faster and can even be compiled! To state it even MORE clearly... ...so long as you do not give a damn about the extra load

Re: rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for these thorough tests! We finally have some hard numbers to work with. I think it is obvious that rsync should be the preferred update mechanism if you want to download the cvs repository. To download, yes, to update, that's not

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: *snip* Simon, Your command of the *language* is superb. But it isn't about debating skills. Test 100 simultaneous connections. Or Not. IDGASEW Bill

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Matthew Dillon
Guys, I just don't care about minor differences in client or server cpu use, or bandwidth. I think the only real issue here is the one Rahul brought up which is, in fact, the original reason why cvsup was written in the first place, so cvs tagging wouldn't require a complete

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:38 AM + 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: My conclusions: === The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Vincent Stemen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:54:29AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: As I understand, cvsup maintains state between updates using checkout files in a separate sup directory. If you are missing that directory, or it does not correspond to your aged tree, cvsup won't do very well. You should

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:38 PM -0600 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: That's a good point. It is possible that cvsup would fair better with a matching sup directory. I actually forgot about cvsup keeping that separate state directory when I ran the benchmarks. However, from my viewpoint that does not invalidate

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? cvsup SUCKS. not the idea, but the language it is implemented in. and cvsup inherits the suckage. as simple as that. if it was written in a portable language, nobody would bother

Re: wiki unbroken

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, January 29, 2008 2:14 am, Hasso Tepper wrote: Doesn't work for me with any internationalised browser (tested Konqueror and Firefox): AttributeError 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' /usr/pkg/lib/python2.4/posixpath.py:60 Switching to en_US fixes the problem. How

Re: wiki unbroken

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, January 30, 2008 5:35 am, Sdävtaker wrote: When i do a full text search, i got this: -- -- Fixed - moinmoin was trying to access a file as a directory, and blew up when it couldn't open it as it expected.

Re: wiki unbroken

2008-01-30 Thread Hasso Tepper
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: How about now? I think it was missing the language packs that it looks for when encountering a browser that's using a language different than the default. (This is not documented in the somewhat unfocused install/upgrade docs, so I'm taking a wild stab.) Nope. It