Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:46:15PM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com wrote: I'm a little surprised to see BSD put alongside Linux when it comes to development pace. Certainly, I don't mean that BSD is at all keeping pace with

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:36:28PM +0100, Michael Neumann wrote: Am Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:59:57AM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote:

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Am Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:59:57AM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote: Hopefully more 'good stuff' will be ported out of

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:36:28PM +0100, Michael Neumann wrote: Am Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com: *snip* The one thing we all agree on is that, generally speaking, UFS isn't cutting it. :-) *I* don't agree. Mind, we

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 08:12:36PM +0100, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: On Sun, 22.02.2009 at 06:33:44 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:36:28PM +0100, Michael Neumann wrote: Okay zpool remove doesn't seem to work as expected, but it should work well at least for RAID-1

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:53:35AM +0800, Bill Hacker wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: *snip* The problem I was attempting to describe: all pool members must be the same size, otherwise all members are considered to be equal to the size of the smallest. In English: you cannot mix-and-match

Re: New mirror in Russia

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: http://df.v12.su/mirror/ It's mirroring from chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de nightly, so it has ISOs, packages, etc. I get good speeds to it from the other side of the planet. It's listed on the Downloads page on the DragonFly website now too. I'll add FTP access when I can

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com wrote: I've been through this procedure twice in the past year, as I replaced 250GB disks with 500GB, and then 500GB disks with 750GB. It's a *huge* pain, and I cannot imagine anyone in an enterprise environment using ZFS to

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:36:28PM +0100, Michael Neumann wrote: Okay zpool remove doesn't seem to work as expected, but it should work well at least for RAID-1 (which probably no one uses for large storage systems ;-).

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote: Side issue again - just brought up DFLY 2.3.0, default all-hammer layout. - atop a natacontrol RAID1 on a pair of salvaged 60 GB IBM 'Deathstars'. - VIA C7 1.5 GHz CPU (the el-cheapo MB aimed at Wal-Mart) - pulled half the

Re: Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Csaba Henk csaba.h...@creo.hu wrote: I need to setup a backup machine, and I intend to utilize today's snapshotty filesystems (which boils down to Dfly+Hammer or FBSD+ZFS -- btrfs is not there yet, and I don't feel like dwelving into Solaris). Set up such an

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:59:57AM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote: Hopefully more 'good stuff' will be ported out of Solaris before it hits the

Re: Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Freddie Cash wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Csaba Henk csaba.h...@creo.hu wrote: I need to setup a backup machine, and I intend to utilize today's snapshotty filesystems (which boils down to Dfly+Hammer or FBSD+ZFS -- btrfs is not there yet, and I don't feel like dwelving into