Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
:So it's a good thing there are companies like Red Hat paying people :full time to maintain those implementations. Support contracts get the :users of the software paying for its maintenance, and it works very :well for Linux. : :ZFS has Sun employees working around the clock too. And now they

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-11 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I would describe it quite like that. While there might be commercial support, the issue is primarily that only a few people will understand the filesystem code well enough to actually work on it,

Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Michael Neumann
Hi, IMHO, Hammer is the killer-feature of DragonFly, too sad that I can't use it on another system until it gets ported. I'd of course love to run a native DragonFly on my laptop (I'm planning to do soon), but there is still some unsupported hardware etc. So instead of porting Hammer to other

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Michael Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, IMHO, Hammer is the killer-feature of DragonFly, too sad that I can't use it on another system until it gets ported. I'd of course love to run a native DragonFly on my laptop (I'm planning to do soon), but there is

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
:It's not even finished yet, I don't think it's fair to hype it as a :killer feature. There's a lot of proving and testing left before it is :competitive with other modern filesystems. Right now it's still :competing with UFSv1, which is how many decades old? Let's not get :ahead of ourselves.

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :It's not even finished yet, I don't think it's fair to hype it as a :killer feature. There's a lot of proving and testing left before it is :competitive with other modern filesystems. Right now it's still :competing with

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I don't doubt the features, but if it has to compete with modern Linux :filesystems for single-node file server roles, it'll need a lot more :optimization. I'm not trying to troll, but it's fair to say that there :are still plenty of use cases that HAMMER won't suit without a lot :more work, even

Re: Portable vkernel (emulator)

2008-07-10 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there's a wide selection, but no single filesystem has the full set of features. If one were to compare HAMMER against all of them as a group then, sure, I have a ton of work to do. But if you compare