Crater being upgraded - cvsup will be down for an hour or two

2008-08-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
cvsup access will be down for the next hour or two while crater is being upgraded. I'm moving the cvs repository around a little to make room for a GIT and SVN mirror. -Matt

Re: New mirroring tool / cvsup alternative

2008-06-10 Thread Vincent Stemen
://hightek.org/mirror In the process of updating our dcvs repository today with *mirror* and thinking about how nice it is to not be dependent on cvsup, I checked our web site today and discovered that the site for *mirror* was missing. I had not checked it in a while. The only thing I can

Re: Cvsup kernel source only?

2008-04-08 Thread Sascha Wildner
Andre LeClaire wrote: Hello, everyone! With the idea of creating a custom router, I've installed DragonFly on an older laptop with limited resources (1GB flash drive), and wonder if it's possible to build a custom kernel by cvsup-ing the kernel source only? This was possible with FreeBSD 4

Re: Cvsup kernel source only?

2008-04-08 Thread Sascha Wildner
Sascha Wildner wrote: Replace 'dragonfly-cvs-src' with 'dragonfly-src-sys' in the supfile you're using. Should have been: Replace 'dragonfly-cvs-src' with 'dragonfly-cvs-sys'... Sascha -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? Fair question, simple answer. Not wanting to throw a useful tool out on specious grounds. cvsup SUCKS. Not my field of expertise. Google 'Escort

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Chris Turner
I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. ... okay.. so like: you'd think with all of these repository copies flying around, there'd be a lot less flaming and a lot more coding going on.. enough! sheesh.. You people are making me want to write this email IN EMACS

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Turner wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. okay.. so like: you'd think with all of these repository copies flying around, there'd be a lot less flaming and a lot more coding going on.. enough! sheesh.. You people are making me want to write

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Vincent Stemen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the DragonFly BSD source repository

rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Hello Vincent, Vincent Stemen wrote: The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about cvsup being faster than rsync are based

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, January 30, 2008 1:38 am, Vincent Stemen wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the DragonFly BSD

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: The only minor thing I'd bring up is that I recall one reason for cvsup is that rsync placed a relatively higher load per client on the server. That needs to be established. We already heard that cvsup - contrary to claims - is not competitive with rsync

Re: rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
not so clear. To repeat my earlier mail: Vincent appears only to have installed a tarball of recent (but not current) sources and used cvsup / rsync to update them. But to operate efficiently, cvsup needs checkout files, which it would have only if it was run previously on those sources. See the FAQ

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:38 AM + 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: My conclusions: === The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Vincent Stemen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:54:29AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: As I understand, cvsup maintains state between updates using checkout files in a separate sup directory. If you are missing that directory, or it does not correspond to your aged tree, cvsup won't do very well. You should

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:38 PM -0600 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: That's a good point. It is possible that cvsup would fair better with a matching sup directory. I actually forgot about cvsup keeping that separate state directory when I ran the benchmarks. However, from my viewpoint that does not invalidate

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? cvsup SUCKS. not the idea, but the language it is implemented in. and cvsup inherits the suckage. as simple as that. if it was written in a portable language, nobody would bother

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
to all cvsup mirrors. cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /\ Work - Mac +++ space for low €€€ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Party Enjoy Relax | http://dragonflybsd.org Against HTML \ Dude 2c 2 the max ! http://golden

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Dave Hayes
Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #2. It's ok for crater to be listed, but it should be commented out for now. Manual use of crater is fine, its the automatic cron jobs that I'd like to avoid :-) Hrm... cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup grep default host DragonFly* DragonFly

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Yah. Please let's do a round robin entry to all cvsup mirrors. : :cheers : simon Unfortunately it isn't safe to do that because the mirrors will be slightly out of sync with each other. You would confuse the hell out of cvsup if you ran it at the wrong time. It's better

cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Stemen
Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collection? I get Server message: Unknown collection dragonfly-cvs-doc The doc directory is there via rsync. It is not missing from other servers such as cvsup.dragonflybsd.org and cvsup.allbsd.org.

Re: cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Avalos
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:41:20PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collection? I get Server message: Unknown collection dragonfly-cvs-doc The doc directory is there via rsync. It is not missing from other servers such as

Re: cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-23, Peter Avalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:41:20PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collecti= on? =20 I get Server message: Unknown collection dragonfly-cvs-doc =20 The doc directory is

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Nicolas Thery
2008/1/21, Dave Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I don't see one in /usr? When did you folks start doing this? 1.10 IIRC.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that keeping a master sync copy and a separate one

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Petr Janda
People use git or hg nowadays :) I just can't stop nagging, it is unbelievably useful, especially for team work. It's been now many times I heared great things about git, while I never personally used it, as I use rsync to keep my development projects syncronized. Why don't we switch to to

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-21, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could just add rsync targets in our /usr/Makefile in addition to all the cvsup/pkgsrc targets already in there. What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Matthias Schmidt
* Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:24:02 +0100 Nicolas Thery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/21, Dave Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! Er...maybe

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:24:02 +0100 Nicolas Thery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/21, Dave Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Nicolas Thery
! Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I don't see one in /usr? When did you folks start doing this? 1.10 IIRC. Eh? I thought that was a joke. There's no /usr/Makefile on this box (1.11.0-PREVIEW). I'm pretty sure I used /usr/Makefile yesterday to run cvsup

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
, granted, we don't want people to be downloading a whole copy's worth of network bandwidth every day, but rsync is close enough that I just don't care. One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that keeping a master

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: sites += crater.dragonflybsd.org::dragonfly_cvs could you please not mirror off crater? Matt's link is quite resource constrained and should mainly be used for feeding mirrors and developers. Typing in a shell with high latency sucks :) cheers simon

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Bill Hacker wrote: CVS has been the 'compromise' that is at least not harmful or overly demanding. CVS *is* harmful. I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both. Or I'll have to check out into another tree and lose the patch. Rather than 'nag' - set up what you

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
on this box (1.11.0-PREVIEW). I'm pretty sure I used /usr/Makefile yesterday to run cvsup on a 1.10.1 box. I don't have access to that box right now. I'll check tonight. Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? I guess so. Nothing does a make distribution except for mergemaster

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: CVS has been the 'compromise' that is at least not harmful or overly demanding. CVS *is* harmful. To you, and other running experimental differences, perhaps so.. I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:59:12 +0100 Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas Thery wrote: Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? I guess so. Nothing does a make distribution except for mergemaster, and mergemaster doesn't merge /usr, I think.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? I guess so. Nothing does a make distribution except for mergemaster, and mergemaster doesn't merge /usr, I think. Hmm, I haven't used mergemaster since the upgrade target went into /usr/src/Makefile to

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Bill Hacker wrote: I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both. Or I'll have to check out into another tree and lose the patch. Indeed. And have to go find it and manually re-apply, and/or alter and re-apply 'coz it no longer fits quite tha same on code that has

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
:... : Hmm, I haven't used mergemaster since the upgrade target went : into /usr/src/Makefile to replace it. I'm mildly surprised to find it's : still in the system, is it of any actual use ? : :Absolutely. There is no other way to merge config files, for instance :ssh, sshd, inetd, etc. :

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-21, Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Stemen wrote: sites += crater.dragonflybsd.org::dragonfly_cvs could you please not mirror off crater? Matt's link is quite resource constrained and should mainly be used for feeding mirrors and developers. Typing in

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Peter Avalos
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:00:31PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: 1. Leave it last in the list and add what you said as a comment to make it convenient for developers and mirrors who might need to use it. 2. Same as 1 but have crater commented out by default. 3.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread walt
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: .. Oh yes, everybody who EVER tried adding third party software to the repo, or rather kept maintaining it, has been swearing on CVS... Heh. That's ambiguous in colloquial English, which admittedly makes no sense and therefore is difficult to learn. You

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
walt wrote: Anyway, you created a DragonFly-git repo at http://repo.or.cz but it is out of date now. They do offer an automatic update service, which sounds very good: In the mirror mode, we will check the remote repository at the URL you give us every hour and if we spot any changes, we will

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: *trimmed* The bottom line - viewing it not a a coder, which I haven't been for around 30 years - but as a Manager of scarce resources - primarily *time*, and not even my own in this case - is that: - Apparent: No readily available 'one

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Understood. I suspected something like that might be the case since it :was not in the download site list on dragonflybsd.org. That is why :I put it last :-). : :Mirror will use the first site in the list by default unless you specify :one of the others on the command line. For the default

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
to be downloading a whole copy's worth of network bandwidth every day, but rsync is close enough that I just don't care. One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
We could just add rsync targets in our /usr/Makefile in addition to all the cvsup/pkgsrc targets already in there. What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! -Matt

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Dave Hayes
Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I don't see one in /usr? When did you folks start doing this? -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - [EMAIL

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-18, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Unless I am overlooking something obvious, It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as they have if the rsync advantage was that great, or that simple [1]. Have you

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: Also, if nobody has written one or is working on one, I am considering writing a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for repository updates via rsync. I'm not sure what you mean with that. Isn't calling rsync enough? Maybe people could

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:24 AM + 1/19/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: Also, if nobody has written one or is working on one, I am considering writing a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for repository updates via rsync. You might want to wait a bit. In freebsd-hackers, there's a thread

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Sat, January 19, 2008 3:24 am, Vincent Stemen wrote: The only actual comparison test results I have found so far, other than what I posted, are from Justin Sherril, who posted some test results on the dragonfly.users mailing list back in April of 2007 indicating cvsup was moderately faster

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Stemen
written one or is working on one, I am considering = writing a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for reposit= ory updates via rsync. I'm not sure what you mean with that. Isn't calling rsync enough? Maybe= =20 It wasn't for me. I had research who the rsync mirrors

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Vincent Stemen
, it took 9 seconds for a full download, but only less than 1.5 seconds to update them. That seems reasonably fast to me. Is cvsup really faster than that? I am sceptical that it could be much faster. Yes, cvsup is way faster in such a case. Maybe not necessarily for 8 files, but for 800

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: *** using cvsup cvsup -L 3 ./DragonFly-cvs-supfile 155.08s user 69.40s system 40% cpu 9:14.73 total I for sure didn't use cvsup for a long time, but that seems quite long. This can happen for various reasons (just guesses): - CVSup not knowing certain tags (commitid

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-18, Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Stemen wrote: *** using cvsup cvsup -L 3 ./DragonFly-cvs-supfile 155.08s user 69.40s system 40% cpu 9:14.73 total I for sure didn't use cvsup for a long time, but that seems quite long. This can happen

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Unless I am overlooking something obvious, It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as they have if the rsync advantage was that great, or that simple [1]. Have you: A) compared the loads and bandwidth as well as the time on BOTH

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:16 AM + 1/18/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: I realize that everything I read comparing cvsup to rsync indicates that cvsup is faster with mirroring cvs repositories. So I decided to run my own tests this evening. I thought everybody might be interested in the results. My results

Re: cvsup

2008-01-16 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:35:48AM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: I am not clear how to access it. Try something like the attached script. Joerg update.sh Description: Bourne shell script

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:23:27PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: Is the repository available via rsync and, if not, I am curious as to why not? Rsync is robust, popular, portable, and written in C. Yes. Check the mirror list, e.g. allbsd has it. Joerg

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
from different platform after all this time. Yes, not only you are upset about this. I found csup, a cvsup replacement written in C, only to discover it currently only supports what is called CVS mode, which means I cannot use it to download/update the repository. Plus there is do csupd, so

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Vincent Stemen
snapshots and official ISOs_. The rsync link to the one you mentioned, *chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de*, does take you to a web page that says they have the cvsup collections, but they do not provide the full path to access them via rsync. _TheShell.com_ is the only other one that lists *Code* under

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Peter Avalos
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 03:22:26AM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: _TheShell.com_ is the only other one that lists *Code* under _Mirrored Data_. Their rsync link takes you to rsync://rsync.theshell.com/pub/DragonFly but there are no instructions on the full path to access the repository. I

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Emiel Kollof
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 05:14:43 walt wrote: Yes, I'm way off topic here, and I apologize -- but I've seen your posts in the 'git' mail-list and you've experimented with Hg, so I know you have your own opinions on version control systems. Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git'

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
walt wrote: Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git' because he thinks rsync is inherently unreliable. I have *no* idea if he is right or wrong in his opinions, but I figure you guys will favor me with your own opinions on the subject. Possibly for transferring the git objects. They

RE: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Nigel Weeks
: Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync walt wrote: Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git' because he thinks rsync is inherently unreliable. I have *no* idea if he is right or wrong in his opinions, but I figure you guys will favor me with your own opinions on the subject. Possibly

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just having an idea about this...are there any files in the source tree that exceed 32kbytes? What if a database solution were created to: Contain every version of every file of every branch in a nicely indexed database table The md5/sha256 of each entry mentioned above 512

comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
Since cvsup is somewhat of a hassle to build, discussion comes up from time to time about switching to rsync. Rsync is generally accepted as slower/more resource intensive, but how much hasn't been quantified. I wanted to look into this in as un-bikesheddy a way as possible... I timed repeated

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I timed repeated retrievals of src from theshell.com over the past few :weeks, and here's the result. : :Retrieving all of src: :cvsup averaged about 11.5 minutes :rsync averaged about 19 minutes : :Retrieving only the last 24 hours of changes: :cvsup averaged about 18 seconds

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On 4/11/07, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into /usr/src. In fact, I

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: My only worry is figuring out how to run the rsync daemon safely. I'm a bit paranoid about running things on crater but I do agree that we would have to run the master rsync daemon there. You can run rsyncd from inetd or standalone. If you're really[tm]

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Dmitri Nikulin wrote: We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into /usr/src. In fact, I think that would be preferable.

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2007 Apr 10 (Tue) at 18:03:49 +0200 (+0200), Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: :cvsync does cvs-only (so, :like rsync), but it has a bug which breaks the RCS files in some cases. :The author didn't want to fix it though :/ Can you describe the bug? I've been using cvsync for local copies of

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, April 10, 2007 11:32 am, Matthew Dillon wrote: We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into /usr/src. In fact,

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Peter Hessler wrote: On 2007 Apr 10 (Tue) at 18:03:49 +0200 (+0200), Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: :cvsync does cvs-only (so, :like rsync), but it has a bug which breaks the RCS files in some cases. :The author didn't want to fix it though :/ Can you describe the bug? I've been using

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
I am now running an rsync server on crater.dragonflybsd.org, serving the cvs repository as 'dragonfly_cvs'. rsync -a rsync://crater.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly_cvs blahblah -- Unfortunately I don't know how to get rsyncd to just log statistics on completion, and it

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: I am now running an rsync server on crater.dragonflybsd.org, serving the cvs repository as 'dragonfly_cvs'. rsync -a rsync://crater.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly_cvs blahblah very nice! will immediatelly switch to rsync operation. however, i'll have to find

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
::dragonfly_cvs/src/crypto/heimdal/Attic/ drwxrwxr-x1024 2005/03/28 05:35:43 . -r--rw-r-- 20313 2005/03/28 05:35:43 ChangeLog,v [..] -r-xrwxr-x3242 2005/03/28 05:35:43 compile,v why are they u-w but g+w? my cvsup gets a little bit confused with that and resets permissions back, so

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
have to find out how to generate the supfile for cvsupd serving... okay, that doesn't work. cvsup changes the RCS files, so I can't simply cvsup over them to generate a scan file :/ operation without scan file then. cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
are they u-w but g+w? my cvsup gets a little bit confused with that = :and resets permissions back, so there is always a back-and-forth between = :rsync and cvsup. setting preserved and not umask=3D002 hopefully fix= :es that locally. : :cheers : simon This is a bug in cvs's SGID handling

RE: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Mire, John
Thanks, guess you didn't read the diary entry for Tue Feb 6 08:19:03 CST 2007 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:25 PM To: users@crater.dragonflybsd.org Subject: Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

RE: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Mire, John
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:35:35PM -0600, John Mire wrote: how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? ... =used the following command to cvsup the most recent release src: cvsup -g -L 2 -h fred.acm.cs.rpi.edu /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfile Yes. the cvsup

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Gergo Szakal
/usr/src/sys/config -- Gergo Szakal [EMAIL PROTECTED] University Of Szeged, HU Faculty Of General Medicine /* Please do not CC me with replies, thank you. */

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Gergo Szakal
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:57:44 -0600 Mire, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, that bit of info seemed to escape me. Damn, I've been using FBSD so long, I expect everything to be like it :( By the by, http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html was my reference

obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread John Mire
how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? here's my diaryfile: Thu Feb 1 02:50:54 CST 2007 =inital install from iso-image =setup the pkgsrc tree as per the Handbook: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/pkgsrc-sourcetree-using.html # cd /usr/ # cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Avalos
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:35:35PM -0600, John Mire wrote: how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? ... =used the following command to cvsup the most recent release src: cvsup -g -L 2 -h fred.acm.cs.rpi.edu /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfile Yes. the cvsup

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread walt
John Mire wrote: how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? here's my diaryfile: Thu Feb 1 02:50:54 CST 2007 =inital install from iso-image =setup the pkgsrc tree as per the Handbook: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/pkgsrc-sourcetree-using.html Welcome

about cvsup and supfile...

2006-11-17 Thread Saverio Iacovelli
I want update DFly with cvsup, but I want to optimize the upgrade operation. I don't want to upgrade all system, but only kernel and some application. 1 - Is it possible to set cvsup for thos operation? 2 - How can I find howto about supfile? Regards, Saverio

Re: about cvsup and supfile...

2006-11-17 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2006-11-17 18:32, Saverio Iacovelli wrote: I want update DFly with cvsup, but I want to optimize the upgrade operation. I don't want to upgrade all system, but only kernel and some application. 1 - Is it possible to set cvsup for thos operation? 2 - How can I find howto about supfile? I

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-06 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:53:11 -0700 walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think csup is the logical way for DF to go, since all of the really hard work is already done. Last I checked csup didn't handle repository mode, there are alternatives to cvsup for repository copies - but when I used

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-06 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
On 06.10.2006, at 10:37, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: Last I checked csup didn't handle repository mode, there are alternatives to cvsup for repository copies - but when I used cvsync I wound up with a repository copy that missed some updates and rsync is slower and harder on the servers

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-05 Thread Charles Allen
The csup client (implementing the cvsup client protocol in C) in the FreeBSD 6.x base distribution has been working fine for awhile. -- Charles Allen

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-05 Thread walt
Charles Allen wrote: The csup client (implementing the cvsup client protocol in C) in the FreeBSD 6.x base distribution has been working fine for awhile. I find that it works very well on FBSD, but on DF it chokes with a 'protocol error' each time it finds a file which needs updating. Do you

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-05 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
person might get Maxime interested again, maybe? I don't think so. We still need cvsupd, which needs ezm3. So okay, the users don't have the hassle with cvsup anymore, but the servers do. cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /\ Work - Mac

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-05 Thread YONETANI Tomokazu
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 11:53:11AM -0700, walt wrote: Charles Allen wrote: The csup client (implementing the cvsup client protocol in C) in the FreeBSD 6.x base distribution has been working fine for awhile. I find that it works very well on FBSD, but on DF it chokes with a 'protocol

cvsup Mirrors

2006-10-05 Thread John Duncan
Hi, Just to let other Australians know that cvsup has stopped working on mirror.isp.net.au for DragonFly for me. If you try another mirror you will find that there was a change of name for some collections a while ago. Though these newer tags aren't working either, it just says unknown

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-05 Thread walt
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 11:53:11AM -0700, walt wrote: Charles Allen wrote: The csup client (implementing the cvsup client protocol in C) in the FreeBSD 6.x base distribution has been working fine for awhile. I find that it works very well

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-04 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
/bsdinstaller/dragonfly-1.4/cvsup-bin-16.1h.tgz Joerg

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-04 Thread Sascha Wildner
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: ..and a full package build in the DragonFly 1.3.2 days on ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/bsdinstaller/dragonfly-1.4/cvsup-bin-16.1h.tgz It lacks a manpage, could you add one? Sascha -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx

where is cvsup?

2006-10-03 Thread Vladimir Mitiouchev
Hi! I tried to install cvsup from pkgsrc, but.. bmake install in devel/cvsup.. = Required installed package ezm3=1.2nb1: NOT found = Verifying reinstall for ../../lang/ezm3 WARNING: ezm3-1.2nb1 is not available for DragonFly-1.7.0-i386 losalamos:~$ sudo pkg_add cvsup pkg_add: no pkg found

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