Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-09 Thread talon
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: x I tried upstart on my laptop and got the fastest console login I have ever seen: within a couple of seconds of the kernel loading, I could log in to my home directory, even as it continued to probe other hardware, connect to the network, etc. The graphical login

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-09 Thread Gergo Szakal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am puzzled hat nobody mentions the most widely used OS which has parallel boot, it is WindowsXP. On my machine which triple boots Windows, BSD and Linux, it is Windows which boots faster by fast, in fact it takes half the time of unices to be in graphical mode able to

shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and Dragonfly, as far as I can tell, just kill all processes, flush buffers, unmount filesystems and

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Oliver Fromme
Rahul Siddharthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and Dragonfly, as far as I can tell, just kill all

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Bill Hacker
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and Dragonfly, as far as I can tell, just kill all processes, flush buffers,

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:28:44AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and Dragonfly, as far as I can tell,

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Bill Hacker wrote: Rahul Siddharthan wrote: The question came to my mind again when I saw Ubuntu's specification for shutdown in their future versions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teardown Basically, it says the majority of init scripts needn't be called at shutdown because the processes can

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:28:44AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: I've long had a question on the shutdown process. Linux systems run a separate shutdown script for every process that was started at boot, and can take a minute or two to shutdown. FreeBSD and

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:50:20AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: If you include ports/pkgsrc, it IS a distro. And decidedly flaky, at that, compared to most linux distros. No BSD comes with Apache or PostgreSQL in the base system, and only NetBSD includes Postfix, to give the three

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Just to clarify, the rc.shutdown script uses rcorder with the -k shutdown option for /etc/rc.d/*. pkgbox:/home/reed grep 'KEYWORD.*shutdown' /etc/rc.d/* /etc/rc.d/cron:# KEYWORD: shutdown /etc/rc.d/inetd:# KEYWORD: shutdown /etc/rc.d/ipfs:# KEYWORD: shutdown /etc/rc.d/local:# KEYWORD: shutdown

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2006-09-07 17:50, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Thu, September 7, 2006 6:28 am, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: BTW - the poweroff on my laptop, with Dragonfly and FreeBSD (last I checked), is also accompanied by a rather alarming and short-lived whine, as if a spinning disk or fan was suddenly

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Francis GUDIN
On 07-09-2006, Erik Wikstr�m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On 2006-09-07 17:50, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Thu, September 7, 2006 6:28 am, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: I had an older system that would do this with the fans; I never saw a negative effect. I assumed it was some setting that was

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2006-09-07 18:46, Oliver Fromme wrote: PS: By the way, recently someone suggested in a FreeBSD mailing list that start scripts could be run in parallel if they don't depend on each other (which rcorder(8) can easily find out). It would probably speed up booting. However, I don't know if

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, September 7, 2006 12:46 pm, Oliver Fromme wrote: PS: By the way, recently someone suggested in a FreeBSD mailing list that start scripts could be run in parallel if they don't depend on each other (which rcorder(8) can easily find out). It would probably speed up booting. However,

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:35:24PM +0200, Erik Wikström wrote: On 2006-09-07 18:46, Oliver Fromme wrote: PS: By the way, recently someone suggested in a FreeBSD mailing list that start scripts could be run in parallel if they don't depend on each other (which rcorder(8) can easily find out).

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
BTW - the poweroff on my laptop, with Dragonfly and FreeBSD (last I checked), is also accompanied by a rather alarming and short-lived whine, as if a spinning disk or fan was suddenly stopped. I don't get this sound with linux or windows. I had an older system that would do this with the

Re: shutdown on BSD and Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: PS: By the way, recently someone suggested in a FreeBSD mailing list that start scripts could be run in parallel if they don't depend on each other (which rcorder(8) can easily find out). It would probably speed up booting. However, I don't know if anyone is