Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Marcin Jessa
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:10:19 -0700 Devon H. O'Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux and Solaris. --Devon Eh, and the purpose of removing pw in

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, August 30, 2005 4:32 am, Marcin Jessa said: On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:10:19 -0700 Devon H. O'Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux and Solaris.

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Tom hummel
: - Liam J. Foy From the dicussion so far it looks like we want these. We may not be able to immediately remove the old utilities, especially since I'm sure a lot of scripts use them, but the new ones have got a lot of things going for them and I think we want

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:17:47AM +, Tom hummel wrote: : - Liam J. Foy From the dicussion so far it looks like we want these. We may not be able to immediately remove the old utilities, especially since I'm sure a lot of scripts use them, but the new ones

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Liam J. Foy wrote: Comments/Productive criticism welcome, rants/flames, no =). show the diff so we can see what they are like :) cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /\ Work - Mac +++ space for low $$$ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ /

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:... : :http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?useradd++NetBSD-current : :Also check userdel, usermod, groupadd and groupdel etc etc. :Remember they also contain two other options which I wrote for :NetBSD to temporary lock users and to force a new password to be :given at next login(usermod,

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 15:50, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: :... : :http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?useradd++NetBSD-current : :Also check userdel, usermod, groupadd and groupdel etc etc. :Remember they also contain two other options which I wrote for :NetBSD to temporary lock users and to force a

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux and Solaris. --Devon Eh, and the purpose of removing pw in favor of these tools is that pw was made in FreeBSD to emulate their functionality.

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 17:03, Mon 29 Aug 05, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:55:35AM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote: On 15:50, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: Just kidding. The utilities look fine. I particularly like the idea of the -D option, which is to have the program

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Liam J. Foy wrote: cut Agreed. /me hates pw. I would just like these tools in, they're nicely documentated and easy to use in my opinion. Yeah great, now I finally got a bit comfortable with pw they implement something easier ;-) -- mph

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, August 29, 2005 6:12 pm, Liam J. Foy said: I have ported user* and group* tools from NetBSD. In my personal experience and opinion I find them MUCH easier to use when administrating users. They also contain functions which we currently would have to manually edit /etc/master.passwd

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 02:30, Tue 30 Aug 05, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Liam J. Foy wrote: cut Agreed. /me hates pw. I would just like these tools in, they're nicely documentated and easy to use in my opinion. Yeah great, now I finally got a bit comfortable with pw they implement something easier ;-) Wait