Re: Java 2 status

2008-04-28 Thread Hasso Tepper
Francois Tigeot wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:28:22PM +0200, VOROSKOI Andras wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:18:47PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> > > I haven't tried.  I did hear recently that Sun said something
> > > about opening up Java for real, hopefully that will result in
> > > easier portage.
> >
> > Yep, they say so:
> > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39405249,00.htm?r=7
>
> The OpenBSD people seem to have created a usable jdk 1.7 port:
> http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080321023803

Yeah, I know. But it wouldn't help me at the moment even if it would be 
DragonFly port - browser plugin is the only thing I'm interested in ;).


-- 
Hasso Tepper


Re: Java 2 status

2008-04-28 Thread Hasso Tepper
Matthew Dillon wrote:
> :What's the status of Java 2 on DragonFly? Anyone tried recently to
> : build Java from sources? Binaries available? Or is Linux emu the only
> : way? Which version? etc ...
> :--
> :Hasso Tepper
>
> I haven't tried.  I did hear recently that Sun said something about
> opening up Java for real, hopefully that will result in easier
> portage.

I think that opening Java for real has nothing to do with it ;). Whether 
it's completely open or not, it's only distribution issue AFAIK - how you 
are allowed to distribute you modifications and binaries.

http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/index.html exists quite a long 
time already.

The real issue (as always) is whether someone did/will do some real work 
to get Java working on DragonFly? Whatever license is, it doesn't give us 
human resources ;)


-- 
Hasso Tepper


Re: Java 2 status

2008-04-28 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:28:22PM +0200, VOROSKOI Andras wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:18:47PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> > I haven't tried.  I did hear recently that Sun said something about
> > opening up Java for real, hopefully that will result in easier portage.
> 
> Yep, they say so:
> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39405249,00.htm?r=7

The OpenBSD people seem to have created a usable jdk 1.7 port:
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080321023803

-- 
Francois Tigeot


Re: Java 2 status

2008-04-28 Thread VOROSKOI Andras
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:18:47PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> I haven't tried.  I did hear recently that Sun said something about
> opening up Java for real, hopefully that will result in easier portage.

Yep, they say so:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39405249,00.htm?r=7

-- 
voroskoi


Re: Java 2 status

2008-04-28 Thread Matthew Dillon

:What's the status of Java 2 on DragonFly? Anyone tried recently to build 
:Java from sources? Binaries available? Or is Linux emu the only way? 
:Which version? etc ...
:-- 
:Hasso Tepper

I haven't tried.  I did hear recently that Sun said something about
opening up Java for real, hopefully that will result in easier portage.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Some questions

2008-04-28 Thread Michael Neumann

Matthew Dillon wrote:

:Hello!
:
:I have some questions about DragonflyBSD!
:
:1. What you have reach since the forking of FreeBSD?

That would be a pretty long list.  The kernel's core APIs have
been almost entirely rewritten, we have a really nice light
weight process abstraction, integration with pkgsrc, and many
other things.


Take a look here:
http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/DragonFly_Technologies

Most notable:

 * Process checkpointing
 * Journaling (HAMMER will replace it as far as I understand)
 * VKernel
 * Varsym

Not to forget dntpd, dma and all the good pkgsrc stuff ;-)

And a lot is just not visible by the regular user...

Regards,

  Michael


Re: FLISOL08

2008-04-28 Thread Sdävtaker
FLISOL is a event run simultaneously in almost every latin american
country, several cities per country.
It is a BG installfest, there is a lot of people with low
or none experience in Open Source that bring the PC and a bunch of
volunteers help them to install enough software to run the day to day
activities and learn the first steps, usually the installation is a
ready-to-go Os, like Ubuntu, anyway there is recurrent users going,
who maybe had the first install 3 years ago and now looking for
something else and volunteers who are almost all linux-admins, we
focuses on the last group, there was a lot of curiosity about BSD and
about our BUG.
There is other activities too, there was some 1 hour conferences about
open standards, multimedia software, and other topics.
And there is some stands with people promoting some stuff, here in BA
was Ubuntu and "Buenos Aires Libre" the last one is a big regional
adhoc wifi network, it covers pretty much the whole city and is full
collaborative, the people there was teaching how to modify some
routers to get them into the network.
I was looking for a english version of the official FLISOL site, but
found nothing. :-(
FLISOL means LatinAmenrican Free Software Install Fest.
It runs once every year.
I just found this video in youtube, and i appear almost the whole video :-P
Im the one with the Green TShirt and the lng hair talking with
people on the back and the cam shows me every 5 seconds, i didnt
notice someone was recording. :-P
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TkYen9NhkQI&feature=related
The Green TShirt was the oficial Tshirt here, i didnt choose the
color, I cant get lost in the antarctica wearing that:-(
See ya
Damian

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Matthew Dillon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  :Hey,
>
>
> :I just wanted to share with everyone my experience in FLISOL08.
>  :Me and some others BUG people volunteered to the FLISOL08 in Buenos
>  :Aires, it was decided before we joined that everyone was going to get
>  :Ubuntu installed unless they ask for something else. So we went to
>  :install Ubuntu 8.04, but had some DFBSD 1.12.2 CDs in the bag ready for
>  :installation.
>  :We installed a lot of Ubuntus while talking with volunteers and
>  :experienced users around about SOs stuff, FBSD7, DFBSD, Linux, Minix,
>  :and why not, windows vista, We spreed the curiosity bug all around.
>  :Since yesterday, we getting lot of msn/jabber/icq/mail from those who
>  :are trying it at home now.
>  :DFBSD was in the FLISOL! /cheer!
>  :Damian
>
>Cool stuff!  I'm not sure what FLISOL08 is but I'm happy to see some
>DFBsd visibility there :-)
>
> -Matt
> Matthew Dillon
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>



-- 
Sdävtaker prays to Rikku goddess for a good treasure.


Re: FLISOL08

2008-04-28 Thread Matthew Dillon

:Hey,
:I just wanted to share with everyone my experience in FLISOL08.
:Me and some others BUG people volunteered to the FLISOL08 in Buenos 
:Aires, it was decided before we joined that everyone was going to get 
:Ubuntu installed unless they ask for something else. So we went to 
:install Ubuntu 8.04, but had some DFBSD 1.12.2 CDs in the bag ready for 
:installation.
:We installed a lot of Ubuntus while talking with volunteers and  
:experienced users around about SOs stuff, FBSD7, DFBSD, Linux, Minix, 
:and why not, windows vista, We spreed the curiosity bug all around.
:Since yesterday, we getting lot of msn/jabber/icq/mail from those who 
:are trying it at home now.
:DFBSD was in the FLISOL! /cheer!
:Damian

   Cool stuff!  I'm not sure what FLISOL08 is but I'm happy to see some
   DFBsd visibility there :-)

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Some questions

2008-04-28 Thread Matthew Dillon

:Hello!
:
:I have some questions about DragonflyBSD!
:
:1. What you have reach since the forking of FreeBSD?

That would be a pretty long list.  The kernel's core APIs have
been almost entirely rewritten, we have a really nice light
weight process abstraction, integration with pkgsrc, and many
other things.

:2. Which features you are plan for the near future (2.0, 2.2)?

2.0's biggest features are going to be the new filesystem,
called HAMMER, and a (hopefully) very nicely stabilized MP-SAFE 
network stack.  2.0 will be in the July time frame.

:3. What you are plan for the distant future (2.4, 2.6...3.0)?

The ultimate goal of the project is transparent machine clustering.
That would probably be in 3.0 time frame, more then a year away.

:And sorry for my bad English. I hope you can understand me.
:
:araratpp

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: FLISOL08

2008-04-28 Thread Sdävtaker
I got no idea what is wrong with thunderbird, but it sent 2 mails, one
autosaved draft and the final version, and i just noticed this reading
the list. That was weird.
I will see if i can reproduce the error and report it to mozilla,
since i remeber the mail had some retry because connection problems,
Im wondering if it had something to do with the double different sent.
See ya around.
Sdav

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Sdavtaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
>  I just wanted to share with everyone my experience in FLISOL08.
>  Me and some others BUG people volunteered to the FLISOL08 in Buenos Aires,
> it was decided before we joined that everyone was going to get Ubuntu
> installed unless they ask for something else. So we went to install Ubuntu
> 8.04, but had some DFBSD 1.12.2 CDs in the bag ready for installation.
>  We installed a lot of Ubuntus while talking with volunteers and
> experienced users around about SOs stuff, FBSD7, DFBSD, Linux, Minix, and
> why not, windows vista, We spreed the curiosity bug all around.
>
>  Since yesterday, we getting lot of msn/jabber/icq/mail from those who are
> trying it at home now.
>  DFBSD was in the FLISOL! /cheer!
>  Damian
>
>



-- 
Sdävtaker prays to Rikku goddess for a good treasure.


Some questions

2008-04-28 Thread Albrecht Schwenke
Hello!

I have some questions about DragonflyBSD!

1. What you have reach since the forking of FreeBSD?
2. Which features you are plan for the near future (2.0, 2.2)?
3. What you are plan for the distant future (2.4, 2.6...3.0)?

And sorry for my bad English. I hope you can understand me.

araratpp


Some questions

2008-04-28 Thread Albrecht Schwenke
Hello!

I have some questions about DragonflyBSD!

1. What you have reach since the forking of FreeBSD?
2. Which features you are plan for the near future (2.0, 2.2)?
3. What you are plan for the distant future (2.4, 2.6...3.0)?

And sorry for my bad English. I hope you can understand me.

araratpp


FLISOL08

2008-04-28 Thread Sdavtaker

Hey,
I just wanted to share with everyone my experience in FLISOL08.
Me and some others BUG people volunteered to the FLISOL08 in Buenos 
Aires, it was decided before we joined that everyone was going to get 
Ubuntu installed unless they ask for something else. So we went to 
install Ubuntu 8.04, but had some DFBSD 1.12.2 CDs in the bag ready for 
installation.
We installed a lot of Ubuntus while talking with volunteers and  
experienced users around about SOs stuff, FBSD7, DFBSD, Linux, Minix, 
and why not, windows vista, We spreed the curiosity bug all around.
Since yesterday, we getting lot of msn/jabber/icq/mail from those who 
are trying it at home now.

DFBSD was in the FLISOL! /cheer!
Damian