Re: Problem Booting new System 1.12 live cd
:> :> I had similar issues with my Quad Core and believe it or not swapping :> out the fairly new DVD burner for a fairly old CD-ROM drive got the :> machine booted. :> :> Joe :> :> :I had both my DVD player and my CDR/DVD-R attached so I tried one at a :time, it still would not boot. :For now I have DF running in a WMware session. And wow with this new :machine, I don't even notice its running when i am using other apps in XP. : :So for now, I'm going to just stick with the WM. : :Matt, : If its helpful to the project to get this machine to boot, I'm up for :trying some more testing, like the kernel configs. I might need some :hand holding to boot from the new kernel from a CD. : :Thanks, :Dylan Hmm. Well, the question is what is stopping it.. it could be the ATA driver. I'm assuming you don't have any mass storage plugged into the USB. One thing to try... let the boot proceed and give it a good 5 minutes to try to get past the xpt warnings. The xpt stuff will give up after a few minutes and there is an outside chance that the machine will be able to complete its boot. -Matt Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Problem Booting new System 1.12 live cd
Joe Talbott wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:21:10PM -0700, Dylan Reinhold wrote: I have not used DragonFly in a long time (I think the last ver was < 1.0). I just got a new system, so I wanted to see how DragonFly would play, but the live CD 1.12 (from Simon's site) wont boot with or without ACPI. It starts to boot and then keeps repeating this message intr 10 at 40001/4 hz, livelock limit engage! intr 10 at 19810/2 hz livelock removed. ... then a few of these show up *WARNING* waiting for the following device finish xpt: func 0xC01500E35 arg=0 The system is an Intel Quad Core 2.40 GHz on a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G motherboard. I had similar issues with my Quad Core and believe it or not swapping out the fairly new DVD burner for a fairly old CD-ROM drive got the machine booted. Joe I had both my DVD player and my CDR/DVD-R attached so I tried one at a time, it still would not boot. For now I have DF running in a WMware session. And wow with this new machine, I don't even notice its running when i am using other apps in XP. So for now, I'm going to just stick with the WM. Matt, If its helpful to the project to get this machine to boot, I'm up for trying some more testing, like the kernel configs. I might need some hand holding to boot from the new kernel from a CD. Thanks, Dylan
Re: /dev f*ckup
Use the MAKEDEV script with the "all" argument.
/dev f*ckup
I screwed up the owner/group settings of the /dev/* files, while as root in the /dev folder doing: #chown -R john:users * *I was kinda sleep deprived, so I only noticed it after pressing the enter key, that I was in the wrong directory as a "fix" I did: #chown -R root:wheel * so now my whole /dev, belongs to root and group wheel. The system - that is the stuff I use - still works, but I really want to bring back the owner/group settings of the /dev directory as it should be, but I have no clue how to do this without completely reinstalling the system or chown'ing the files in the /dev 1 by 1, which is even more work. Is there a way to roleback owner/group settings (I know the filesystem isn't journaling,) ? Or is it possible to copy the contents of the install cd /dev to the disk /dev to fix this, and if so how? Thanks in advance P.S. I know I did something very lame and it's even lamer that I have no clue how to fix it, so I don't need trollers telling me - something I already know.
Re: Problem Booting new System 1.12 live cd
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:21:10PM -0700, Dylan Reinhold wrote: > I have not used DragonFly in a long time (I think the last ver was < > 1.0). I just got a new system, so I wanted to see how DragonFly would > play, but the live CD 1.12 (from Simon's site) wont boot with or without > ACPI. > > It starts to boot and then keeps repeating this message > > intr 10 at 40001/4 hz, livelock limit engage! > intr 10 at 19810/2 hz livelock removed. > ... > then a few of these show up > *WARNING* waiting for the following device finish > xpt: func 0xC01500E35 arg=0 > > The system is an Intel Quad Core 2.40 GHz on a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G > motherboard. I had similar issues with my Quad Core and believe it or not swapping out the fairly new DVD burner for a fairly old CD-ROM drive got the machine booted. Joe
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
Another feature that might be worth thinking of is the possibility to easily "re-spin" the dvd. Such that you can download it use it, if you like you can install it and after you have used it for some time you might think of applications that you need which are not there or things that you do not need/want. In such a case an easy mechanism to add/remove pieces of software to the dvd would definitely be worth-while! Another opportunity (which may be easier to implement) is to have the ability to store configuration files somewhere in a way that you can at least customize certain parts of the environment. Maybe those suggestions also take it too far, but that is what came to my mind. Greetings, Tobias -- Jost Tobias Springenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
: > Perhaps we could have the liveDVD as the "default" platform then and : > use techniques (compression/omission) to make liveCDs compatible? : :Yes, that's exactly what I meant to say. : :Best regards : Oliver : :-- :Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. I'd say just go for the liveDVD and not worry about the CD at all. We would still be releasing the basic CD version, but I've always also wanted to release a DVD version that included the full source tree (for posterity) and as many packages as it is possible to stuff in there, possibly even pre-installed and ready to run. Even with compression there are serious limits to what can be stuffed onto a Live CD, and I don't think it is really worth the effort for an 'X' edition. This would also create a good distinction between the base CD and the X edition. People would know that the 'X' edition was DVD-only and had just about everything in it. -Matt Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
Louisa Luciani wrote: > Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > On the other hand, there are still some machines that > > > only have CD-ROM drives (not DVD). Maybe those could be > > > supported with a stripped-down version of the DVD, e.g. > > > by omitting some cool-but-not-important stuff (some script > > > could generate this automatically). > > > > In the interest of not getting distracted by the size discussion, I > > suggest targetting a 1.35GB size, but not worrying really about any size > > constraints. I could imagine that when the DVD is ready, some > > compression driver pops up in the kernel, to make it work on CDs as well :) > > Perhaps we could have the liveDVD as the "default" platform then and > use techniques (compression/omission) to make liveCDs compatible? Yes, that's exactly what I meant to say. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> On the other hand, there are still some machines that >> only have CD-ROM drives (not DVD). Maybe those could be >> supported with a stripped-down version of the DVD, e.g. >> by omitting some cool-but-not-important stuff (some script >> could generate this automatically). > > In the interest of not getting distracted by the size discussion, I > suggest targetting a 1.35GB size, but not worrying really about any size > constraints. I could imagine that when the DVD is ready, some > compression driver pops up in the kernel, to make it work on CDs as well :) > > cheers > simon > Perhaps we could have the liveDVD as the "default" platform then and use techniques (compression/omission) to make liveCDs compatible? It would be nice to create a very comprehensive environment in the live session that would encompass all the needs of our current community. We'll see in a short while if many people would like to have "the big ones" included like OpenOffice, Gnome, and more. Thanks again! -- Louisa Luciani www.lolaluci.se/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
Oliver Fromme wrote: On the other hand, there are still some machines that only have CD-ROM drives (not DVD). Maybe those could be supported with a stripped-down version of the DVD, e.g. by omitting some cool-but-not-important stuff (some script could generate this automatically). In the interest of not getting distracted by the size discussion, I suggest targetting a 1.35GB size, but not worrying really about any size constraints. I could imagine that when the DVD is ready, some compression driver pops up in the kernel, to make it work on CDs as well :) cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++ space for low €€€ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Party Enjoy Relax | http://dragonflybsd.org Against HTML \ Dude 2c 2 the max ! http://golden-apple.biz Mail + News / \
Re: GSoC: LiveCD
Matthew Dillon wrote: > :The GSoC is now upon us and so it is time to hear what you guys would > :like to see on the new and improved: > :DragonFly "The X Edition" Live-CD > >Is it going to be a CD or a DVD ? That's an important distinction. >Personally I think a special-edition Live-CD is a wonderful idea, but >it should be a DVD rather then a CD in order to be able to fit everything >in without having to resort to massive compression trickery (which would >probably not be enough anyway, for a CD). I would be nice if the Live-CD would fit in about 1.35 GB, so it could be written to one of those "mini DVDs" which have only 8 cm diameter. Those fit more easily in your pocket and are very convenient to carry with you for emergencency, recovery purposes and similar. (The only problem is that they can't be used with slot-in drives, but those are rare, fortunately.) On the other hand, there are still some machines that only have CD-ROM drives (not DVD). Maybe those could be supported with a stripped-down version of the DVD, e.g. by omitting some cool-but-not-important stuff (some script could generate this automatically). Just my 2 cents. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd
